Discussion thread for "some interesting info around the world"

[IVemo]

3 hours ago, Dampfboot said:

 

Except for those German BBs who will hydro them and dodge as normal.

 

But that is only one counterplay method of which BBs have hahahah.. a ridiculous amount of..

 

- Guess where the DDs are, guess the drops and avoid range

- Turn away from torp points.. don't show broadside to possible torp directions, speed / direction changes are effective

- Wait until the DDs are dead or located

- Use plane(s) to spot torps

- Hydro (/ radar)

- Teammates

- Radio location is quite a fancy tool, I recommend trying (instead of picking something useless like superintendent, you never use that last repair party)

- Annihilate the DD with AP

- Just take the torp hit, you are a BB after all

[El2aZeR]

Wait, I thought they removed super heal as a gimmick and instead gave them Warspite heal?

[dasCKD]

1 hour ago, El2aZeR said:

Wait, I thought they removed super heal as a gimmick and instead gave them Warspite heal?

What? Responsible and sane balancing? Where do you get off with that nonsense?

[El2aZeR]

16 minutes ago, dasCKD said:

What? Responsible and sane balancing? Where do you get off with that nonsense?

 

Kinda got my hopes up when they said that RN BBs don't need any elaborate gimmicks (even if it is ridiculous that they needed testing to see that). Guess I shouldn't have.

[Hades_warrior]

2 hours ago, Verdius said:

 

That is broken af. What do they expect a Zao/Gearing/other non-BB player to do? 

 

Well, atleast it will be a juicy payback from BB players to Zao, Minotaur, Moskva, Gearing and other BB-mosquito's.

How did you handle the Yamato in the begining? Also so much whining?

 

2 hours ago, IVemo said:

 

But that is only one counterplay method of which BBs have hahahah.. a ridiculous amount of..

...........

 

All those tips are nice, but in general the best one (if you play USN BB) would be to snipe those stealth bastards from 15+ km range when allies spot them  

[Darth_Glorious]

3 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

Wait, I thought they removed super heal as a gimmick and instead gave them Warspite heal?

They removed only radar and DFAA, the superheal stays.

Spoiler

 

[El2aZeR]

3 minutes ago, Darth_Glorious said:

the superheal stays.

 

 

WHY?!

[1MajorKoenig]

How absolutely idiotic is this again????

 

WG remove this garbage please. Or just remove the T10 BB altogether. It's made-up shite anyway.

[Kazomir]

12 hours ago, mtm78 said:

20 seconds might be flexible enough, needs testing I find the concept very hard to balance just by mentally trying to picture game situations.  I like the constructive thinking though :)

The ONLY way for this to work nicely is the following:

 

-Those torps only impact BB

-Not a gimmick. Every DD gets this.

-No switch time. 4 modes when pressing the 3 button (torp button)narrow and wide spreads for both depths. Depths are shown visually by the torpedo arc color. Light blue as it is now, dark blue for deep.

 

Still tho, shitty idea.

[Spellfire40]

7 hours ago, Darth_Glorious said:

Seeing something disappear with 10k HP left and reappear with 50k HP 4 times in a row is terrifying

If it also loses 30k plus each time someone Points a gun like RN CL at them it also will be frustrating to Play them..... why cant they simply gring a non gimicy soild BB line?

[txtspeak]

My confidence in WGs ability to do anything right has just hit bedrock

[Gojuadorai]

1 hour ago, Kazomir said:

The ONLY way for this to work nicely is the following:

 

-Those torps only impact BB

-Not a gimmick. Every DD gets this.

-No switch time. 4 modes when pressing the 3 button (torp button)narrow and wide spreads for both depths. Depths are shown visually by the torpedo arc color. Light blue as it is now, dark blue for deep.

 

Still tho, shitty idea.

 

i totaly agree,

 

but making it like the switch between ap and he is  better than a 4x press 1 buttun to cycle.

 

thing is either the torps are a nice to have thing, then giving them only to one line is not a good idea.

or they arent good then why bother implementing them  at all?

 

apart from the side of other DD lines i realy dont know id abother hard counther you can do crap about as a captain is a good thing.

(like AP bombs that  hard counter german BB's but you cant realy do anything but huging a cruiser, which will absolutely gimp your game esp if that cruiser is not a good player)

[Darth_Glorious]

1 hour ago, Spellfire40 said:

If it also loses 30k plus each time someone Points a gun like RN CL at them it also will be frustrating to Play them..... why cant they simply gring a non gimicy soild BB line?

It won't happen, the only ship which can get citadel hits is Nelson.

[Gojuadorai]

3 hours ago, Darth_Glorious said:

[...] the superheal stays.

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so why they write in the description warspite heals???

is the 0.6* on top of the superheal? and which ships get the super heal?

 

1 minute ago, Darth_Glorious said:

It won't happen, the only ship which can get citadel hits is Nelson.

 

and warspite (and hood?)

seems like geting citadels is a premium feature 

[1MajorKoenig]

1 minute ago, Darth_Glorious said:

It won't happen, the only ship which can get citadel hits is Nelson.

 

S_O said somewhere they move away from the "gimmicks" and that these ships would get Warspite heal. Are you sure this idiocy stays?

[BillydSquid]

4 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

 

 

WHY?!

 

Ohhhhhh you have no idea, I've encountered it first hand a couple of days ago. 

 

My Iowa, 2 Bismarcks (with secondary specs), a Gearing and a Baltimore vs a Conqueror.

 

That super heal turned the damn thing into a damage sponge which simply absorbed every AP and HE shell, torpedo and secondary gun arrayed against it and kept going. The armour layout means Conqueror takes a crap ton of regular penetrations from lower caliber shells, but has a extremely heavily armed citadel, very quick rudder shift to change angles at close range. No other BB could have taken that level of firepower and kept going, not the Yamato, Kurfurst and certainly not the Montana.

 

Basically, you knock it out ASAP with citadels or throw the kitchen sink at the damn thing and sink it as fast as possible or it just heals up and keeps going (any competent player will be able the manage his repair party well enough to drop into concealment and simply heal up)

 

That super heal is broken, having an better heal than any other BB okay, but 40k?

 

[Darth_Glorious]

13 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

 

S_O said somewhere they move away from the "gimmicks" and that these ships would get Warspite heal. Are you sure this idiocy stays?

I don't see Lion and Conqueror losing superheal yet, only radar and DFAA.

[1MajorKoenig]

2 minutes ago, Darth_Glorious said:

I don't see Lion and Conqueror losing superheal yet, only radar and DFAA.

 

This is obviously a shitty idea. How can WG not see that?

[mtm78]

 

5 hours ago, Hades_warrior said:

 

Well, atleast it will be a juicy payback from BB players to Zao, Minotaur, Moskva, Gearing and other BB-mosquito's.

How did you handle the Yamato in the begining? Also so much whining?

 

 

All those tips are nice, but in general the best one (if you play USN BB) would be to snipe those stealth bastards from 15+ km range when allies spot them  

 

Yamato didn't make up 60% of the tier X  games, at any time, so your comparison is like always, off. 

 

And please keep sniping in your BB's I love meeting you on the enemy team that way. 

[Boris_MNE]

I just hope RN will have deck similar to German BBs...

2 TB, 2 AP DB squadrons from my Enterprise and............. you see all alone Bismarck sniping MUHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[Exocet6951]

Gotta give people spending money on free xp something to lust after....
That's what I get from that.

[BillydSquid]

5 hours ago, Hades_warrior said:

All those tips are nice, but in general the best one (if you play USN BB) would be to snipe those stealth bastards from 15+ km range when allies spot them  

 

Sniping DDs, from 15km, with a BB .....

 

 

WG, this is your target market?

 

[Sub_Octavian]

3 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

This is obviously a shitty idea. How can WG not see that?

Because it's not a <cenzored> idea.
Conq and Lion need boost to tanking to be viable. Thus, they have a heal that works much faster, however, it is not RN CL heal, as it does not repair bonus citadel points.
We're running this loadout as final, and still have time before release. If by any chance the tankiness of Lion and Conq turns out to bee too much, well, we can juts tweak it down, that's all.

I will elaborate more about these heal consumables in dev log today.

[mtm78]

Personally, I'm more interested in anything which can be said about the deep draught torpedoes possibility  I followed the devblog right when I read about those  

 

[Sub_Octavian]

2 minutes ago, mtm78 said:

Personally, I'm more interested in anything which can be said about the deep draught torpedoes possibility  I followed the devblog right when I read about those  

Yes, this can be really nice addition to the game:)
We will start with testing PA DD with regular torps, then we will have a stage with deep draught, and at that time I will be glad to share more details