Discussion thread for "some interesting info around the world"

[Verdius]

3 minutes ago, iJoby said:

Edit: Details here https://thedailybounce.net/2017/08/08/world-of-warships-pan-asia-destroyers-pictures/

Whats interesting is nearly all of them are flying the Taiwanese flag.

We are going to see a fair bit of salty Chinese players about it.

Mainland China has blocked national flags on their client so it won't matter :P

 

Also Commie China didn't even have a navy till the USSR gave them some Gnevny's in the 50's

[creamgravy]

Wonder how are they going to balance Fu Shun with Gnevny and Anshan?

 

1 minute ago, avenger121 said:

DDs are made by soft stats, not so much by hard ones like amount of guns/torps.

 

True but they'll have to nerf quite a bit to fit her at tier 7.

 

Gallant is a bit OP at tier 6, a full J-Class at tier 7? Hmm.

[Verence196]

Just now, mtm78 said:

Sorry, I just want a proper Dutch ship ( and yes, I don't mind she being finished in the UK since she was towed out before completion to keep her out of axis hands ). Isaac Sweers would probably be a very strong tier 7, and I want it, I want it noaw :D

Agreed. =)

In fact, the Pan-Asian tree announcement makes me think that a Pan-European tree might not be out of the question either. I'd absolutely love me some Dutch, Scandinavian and various Mediterranean designs in game.

[dasCKD]

30 minutes ago, Darth_Glorious said:

Tier 8 : Hsien yang

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Tier 9 : Chung Mu

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Tier 10 : Hsiang Yang

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Honestly, they could at least stick Soviet turrets on USN DDs or something to make them a little bit more interesting.

[Darth_Glorious]

Don't know what kind of grimmicks they will give to those ships...

[dasCKD]

1 minute ago, Darth_Glorious said:

Don't know what kind of grimmicks they will give to those ships...

British heals.

[Verdius]

2 minutes ago, Darth_Glorious said:

Don't know what kind of grimmicks they will give to those ships...

 

Radar 

[JaiFoh]

10 minutes ago, Verence196 said:

More spectacularly - the tier VII is a British N-class destroyer (and, if you're feeling charitable, also the first Dutch ship in WoWs). Three dual main guns and two quintuple torp launchers. Really looking forward to that one.

 

Called it 
 
Still there is an interesting set of ships there although i am looking at the T5 Jian Wei and going "Thats another British Ship by the lines but who is it? Its definitely the lines of a British inter war destroyer, almost looks like an E class to me.
anyone got any ideas as my sources are failing me at the moment

[WolfGewehr]

9 minutes ago, iJoby said:

Edit: Details here https://thedailybounce.net/2017/08/08/world-of-warships-pan-asia-destroyers-pictures/

According to http://game.ettoday.net/article/984505.htm?from=fb_et_game

The images of some ships can be seen along with their tiers.

 

Tier 1 - ROCN Cheng An Basically an Orlan

 

 

The tier 1 ship looks more like Type D escort ship to me.  Especially check the ship No.40

 

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Decommissioned on 30-11-1945. Surrendered to Republic of China 29-08-1947, and renamed Chenan (PF-72). Decommissioned 1963.

 

Who knows?

 

 

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Guns are different but we know WG's attention to details aka Monarch cough

 

[dasCKD]

1 minute ago, Verdius said:

Radar 

Teleportation consumable :D Their answer to the battleship plague! If the battleships all camp, then the destroyers can just teleport next to them and shotgun them with torpedoes :P

[Haleos]

The only ship that looks unique is the tier7. I'll grind for it and stop there. Because who gives a f.u.c.k about clones.

[fumtu]

8 minutes ago, creamgravy said:

Gallant is a bit OP at tier 6, a full J-Class at tier 7? Hmm.

 

I wouldn't consider Gallant OP at T6. She's good dd but definitely not OP. But J/K/N class at T7 would be. I guess it will have crappy concealment or torps with very very long relaod time 

[ShinGetsu]

I'll call it now. They'll have radar. Much balansed comrad xaxaxaxa, after all there are so few Blacks around, and it doesn't have any issue, right ? Riiight ?

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Ah ? If we take it to a silver line it won't be rare ? Shut up and drink your vodka comrad.

[dasCKD]

2 minutes ago, Haleos said:

The only ship that looks unique is the tier7. I'll grind for it and stop there. Because who gives a f.u.c.k about clones.

Obsessive autists like me?

[Verdius]

3 minutes ago, ShinGetsu said:

I'll call it now. They'll have radar. Much balansed comrad xaxaxaxa, after all there are so few Blacks around, and it doesn't have any issue, right ? Riiight ?

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Ah ? If we take it to a silver line it won't be rare ? Shut up and drink more vodka comrad.

 

I really wouldn't be surprised at this point if WG thinks this would be acceptable to counter 'smoke meta'.

 

Nevermind that it would completely destroy balance. But WG has a deserved reputation for using sledgehammers instead of scalpels when it comes to balance.

[principat121]

19 minutes ago, iJoby said:

We are going to see a fair bit of salty Chinese players about it.

 

IIRC, the chinese server has its very own, unique and fantasy national flags.

[dasCKD]

6 minutes ago, Verdius said:

I really wouldn't be surprised at this point if WG thinks this would be acceptable to counter 'smoke meta'.

 

As long as they don't also have a smoke screen, I'd be fine with that. Make them like mini cruisers, without the citadels. In fact, I'd think it'll be interesting to see an implementation of a destroyer line that doesn't have smoke screens whatsoever.

[Aotearas]

Pan-Asian line looks like patched trousers you've been wearing for years already.

 

Mostly essentially just copies of existing ships in the game and wildly fluctuating gameplay/styles within the line (Mutsuki'ish torpedo boat, Gnevny'ish gunboat, a hydrid-looking N-class and then US tier VIII-X equivalents). Training up a captain for that line is going to be a real PITA, if not outright impossible due to missing gameplay synergy between different ships and captain skills. And considering the higher tiers are basically just US replicas I have to wonder what they will bring to the game in the terms of gameplay flavour.

 

So far, can't say I'm interested. The tier VII looks the only interesting ship out of the bunch, but will probably not grind any further than that (especially considering I already have the Gearing).

[cicciolorenz]

1 hour ago, Darth_Glorious said:

Tier 1 : Cheng An

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That gun mounts

Don't make me cry

[Verence196]

Could the Tier V Jian Wei be a late WWI British flotilla leader design (such as the Scott-class)? The lines and turret design looks suspiciously like one, but I cannot find any source suggesting that any of them were sold off to Taiwan?

 

[JapLance]

4 minutes ago, Verence196 said:

Could the Tier V Jian Wei be a late WWI British flotilla leader design (such as the Scott-class)? The lines and turret design looks suspiciously like one, but I cannot find any source suggesting that any of them were sold off to Taiwan?

 

 

Bridge wing shape suggest me a Shakespeare class

[creamgravy]

It's defiantly a DD with 5 x 120mm BL Mk 1 guns and 533 mm TR Mk I tubes. Tier 5 is perfect for them.

 

What a strange world when we can sail Gadjah Mada but not a famous destroyer like HMS Kelly (she's even on the crest of Hebburn Town F.C!)

 

 

Ah well, here's Gadjah Mada stats.

 

Guns. She's a crazy fire starter (almost double Benson C hull) with a high DPM (almost Benson C-hull)

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Name	Tier	Guns	Reload (s)	HE Alpha	Fire chance (%)	Hit rate (%)	HE DPM	Fires per minute	DE
Benson C-hull	8	4	3.3	1800	5	50%	16,364	1.1	1.5
Gadjah Mada	7	6	5	1700	8	50%	15,300	1.9	2.4
Błyskawica	7	7	6.5	1700	8	50%	13,731	1.7	2.1

Torpedoes. Unknown. 10 x 8km Mark XI seems over the top with those guns. 6km Mark VII seems more balanced for tier 7, you'd get a tier 7 Farragut.

 

AA is crap.

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Gadjah Mada	DPS	Range (km)
Mk IV Hazemeyer (1)	23	3.5
Oerlikon (4x2)	24	2

 

[Capra76]

44 minutes ago, fumtu said:

But J/K/N class at T7 would be. I guess it will have crappy concealment or torps with very very long relaod time 

 

My worry is that WG will end up basing the entire RN DD line on that one ship, so whatever balancing features go into that ship become traits for the whole RN line.

[JaiFoh]

Good shouts on the Scott/Shakespear DDL for the T5
I wonder if this ship is really HMAS Stuart (D00)

[Verence196]

10 minutes ago, JapLance said:

 

Bridge wing shape suggest me a Shakespeare class

 

Agreed. The flattish funnel sides does too. Almost the same ship, though. And again, I cannot find any source claiming that any of them sailed with the Taiwanese.

edit: Could it be a foreign derivative? Many British shipyards built similar ships for foreign navies?