Discussion thread for "some interesting info around the world"

[Hades_warrior]

6 minutes ago, ShinGetsu said:

Higher than that and I'll keep my freeXP for my stock Saint Louis and the RN BBs tech tree.

Higher, or even the same as that, i'll still keep my free EXP. There are RN BB's on the way I want to play for which I save every point I can get.

[WestyII]

1 hour ago, Sub_Octavian said:

Well, no. Normal T7 BB does not come with permanent camo, increased rewards, and the ability to host any RN commander without re-specializing. We're not going to make it unobtainable, but 250k is too cheap. Anyways, we (and you) will know soon enough. My personal expectations are around 350k +/- 50 k, because this is all free XP I have, huh, gotta go grab some cookies and talk with eco team.

Dont forget the obvious Royal Navy Tax!

Didnt Ru server get the Russian battleship October Revolution Free? -Yup


 

[Sigimundus]

30 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said:

I dont see only ''several'' people complain about this here.

 

28 minutes ago, WestyII said:

100's of pages, 1000's of posts about the Royal Navy Battleship line.

"Several people"

 

 

Umm there isn't much more then 20 or 30 people on the forum who complains about "Royal Navy Battleship line fiasco". If you compare it with player base of whole EU server then it is much more less then "several"

[avenger121]

Cant we just ban those guys from this thread, first it was the RN cruisers and now it is the RN BBs. Never seen so much whine about any of the other lines, absolutely stupid.

 

I can already tell you what will happen when it comes to the RN DDs.

[Spellfire40]

5 minutes ago, Sigimundus said:

 

 

 

Umm there isn't much more then 20 or 30 people on the forum who complains about "Royal Navy Battleship line fiasco". If you compare it with player base of Whole EU server then it is much more less the "several"

even if you incluse all the forum the larger part of the WoWS Players do not come here .......that does not mean you cant see Trends and WG does not consider Things if you look at the newest leaks about UK BBs i think a lots fears will die down a bit..... not that it really means they wont roll back to some of the more hairraising idias that made Players scared in the 1st place as with any work in Progress....

[Sigimundus]

36 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said:

Your intern calculation will give you wrong and unwanted results. Mark my words.

Im prety sure when I say this (for those 300k) is the opinion of many players - Tnx, but i'll pass. I wouldn't mind if that ship is really good for that tier so is worth that amount of free EXP, but I highly doubt it is.

 

Yea, that EXP can be earned, BUT, it requires a lot of time, patience, and ofc flags (if you have over 100 of them), but not many players have that.

No matter if he is first T7 premium for free EXP, the point is you want to overprice him too much, which you didn't do with Missouri. How come?

 

I already have Missouri and currently also 150k FreeXp. With correct flags (There is now even Ouroboros with +777% Free XP) and camo you can earn even more then 1k freeXP average per battle.

[mtm78]

1 hour ago, Sub_Octavian said:

My personal expectations are around 350k +/- 50 k, because this is all free XP I have, huh, gotta go grab some cookies and talk with eco team.

 

Hehehe 

 

I guess for me it will depend on the bonus included on the cammo(s). Getting a RN captain trainer with 250%+ captain xp permanently would be worth 350k I guess.......

 

 

[Otto_Carius_512]

Guys, Guys...you ALWAYS seem to get stuff wrong...WE are the customers...they can tell us their calculations and reasons all day long:

All we need to do is not fall for it!

 

Mo is a free XP Ship, she is not here very long...not comparable? Why? Because of some Flags? Who made those flags? Not our fault they are ingame now...so 300k is too much for you?

I agree, so just do something else with your free XP

 

I know its a different game but you always remind me of this guy:

 

http://imgur.com/r/all/AnkPGiu

 

KNOW that we are the customers Guys...and chill out, they have to come to us!

This may be no demoracy, but WE are the ones that do hold the Base (aka Gold)...we are @ defense and that is way easier then attacking ;)

[Sub_Octavian]

2 minutes ago, Otto_Carius_512 said:

Guys, Guys...you ALWAYS seem to get stuff wrong...WE are the customers...they can tell us their calculations and reasons all day long:

All we need to do is not fall for it!

We don't force anyone to buy anything. If you won't fall for Nelson, that's your choice. Our choice is to set any price we think adequate. 300-400k is adequate for Premium T7 that will stay forever in the branch. 250 is not. I am the customer of many companies: food, oil, mobile and internet, bank, etc, etc. Well, I guess I need to go to my tooth paste forum to complain about the pricing, because I AM THE CUSTOMER  

 

In the meantime, there is a stream on Asia FB. Feel free to jump in, that'll be in English (partly).

 

[mtm78]

No comment on what kind of special cammo's she might have :(

 

<sarcasm>

I really want a good captain trainer, make it happen as I am your customer! 

</sarcasm>

 

 

 

[WestyII]

 

1 minute ago, Sub_Octavian said:

We don't force anyone to buy anything. If you won't fall for Nelson, that's your choice. Our choice is to set any price we think adequate. 300-400k is adequate for Premium T7 that will stay forever in the branch. 250 is not. I am the customer of many companies: food, oil, mobile and internet, bank, etc, etc. Well, I guess I need to go to my tooth paste forum to complain about the pricing, because I AM THE CUSTOMER  

 

In the meantime, there is a stream on Asia FB. Feel free to jump in, that'll be in English (partly).

 

Well there you go folks.

Lovely stuff. 

[Ghostychan]

good thing I started saving (most) my free XP after I bought the Missouri - with >500k now, I am fairly sure I can get Nelson on Day 1 without spending a single doubloon.

 

With the help of my copy righted, award winning and oscar nominated formula, I have calculated for Nelson to cost about 400k plus possible taxes.

 

and TBH: I find 400k to be reasonable, although I'd have preferred to see her as a regular T7 Ship as well. (for one simple reasons: 9 on 9 T7 bot fights to determine which is the best of the Big 7)

[txtspeak]

1 hour ago, Sub_Octavian said:

Surprisingly accurate...

[creamgravy]

1 minute ago, WestyII said:

Lovely stuff. 

 

Nelson and Missouri are grinding goals in a f2p grinding game. You'll need to pay crazy money to get them right away.

 

Phil's estimate of 300-400k is too low for me. 450k would be my base figure.

[JaiFoh]

Look on the Brightside

At least we can finally prove in the Training room whether or not the Bismarck could have escaped the KGV, Rodney, Norfolk and Dorsetshire plus half a dozen DD's. :-) 

i have over 310 free xp so hopefully i'll be able to add to that soon.

[WestyII]

Just now, JaiFoh said:

Look on the Brightside

At least we can finally prove in the Training room whether or not the Bismarck could have escaped the KGV, Rodney, Norfolk and Dorsetshire plus half a dozen DD's. :-) 

i have over 310 free xp so hopefully i'll be able to add to that soon.

Not really, KGV's armour is being gimped. 

[WestyII]

3 minutes ago, creamgravy said:

 

Nelson and Missouri are grinding goals in a f2p grinding game. You'll need to pay crazy money to get them right away.

 

Phil's estimate of 300-400k is too low for me. 450k would be my base figure.

450fxp for a T7 is Crazy. Only if it got and XP boost like Sims or Anshan. Otherwise 300fxp is about right. 

(It should be in the tech tree afterall.)

[Vanhal]

Scharnhorst cost is same as conversion of 237.500XP. Other factors:

- Farming free XP. Without premium account, flags and such, farming 237k free XP would take me (60% WR, playing mostly 6-8 tier) around 5000 battles. With everything stacked - premium account, camos, flags i could get 3000-9000 free XP per battle. But due to how it is calculated, you need everything and you need premium account. That cost too, it isn't free.

- Discounts. Sometimes free XP is 35 to 1 instead of normal 25 to 1 exchange ratio, but the tier 7 premium ships also get similar - 30% discount sometimes. So that evens into non factor.

- You also must have that 237k on some elite ships. Not a big problem but that's still quite number of battles, while you can buy the premium right off the bat.

- Assuming Nelson would be normal premium with normal T7 earning bonuses and normal T7 premium camo it should also have normal T7 price range.

- Will Nelson be comparable to Scharnhorst? I won't factor for that, but that question WILL surface many times after its release.

 

[FireRM]

You can have an iconic Premium T7 ship for free, as long as you play the game, but you still complain because you might have to play a bit more to get it.

[HectorBarbossa]

wg birthday special on RU:

https://worldofwarships.ru/ru/news/event/happy_19/

and EU:

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/premshop/happy-berth-day/

find the difference 

[avenger121]

33 minutes ago, WestyII said:

Not really, KGV's armour is being gimped. 

 

Nonsense.

 

 

 

23 minutes ago, HectorBarbossa said:

wg birthday special on RU:

https://worldofwarships.ru/ru/news/event/happy_19/

and EU:

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/premshop/happy-berth-day/

find the difference 

 

Clearly WG EU doesnt want to spoil us too much. We are already getting spoiled all the other time, arent we?

[Hades_warrior]

45 minutes ago, Sigimundus said:

 

Umm there isn't much more then 20 or 30 people on the forum who complains about "Royal Navy Battleship line fiasco". If you compare it with player base of whole EU server then it is much more less then "several"

Why you quoting me? I didn't say any about RN BB line.

 

41 minutes ago, Sigimundus said:

 

I already have Missouri and currently also 150k FreeXp. With correct flags (There is now even Ouroboros with +777% Free XP) and camo you can earn even more then 1k freeXP average per battle.

Yea, and how much of those flags do you have...? Its not enough of having few of each, as you get from Dunkirk containers. Unless you spend your real money...

 

48 minutes ago, Sub_Octavian said:

Our choice is to set any price we think adequate. 300-400k is adequate for Premium T7 that will stay forever in the branch. 250 is not.

 

No, its not adequate, not even close.

USN Colorado branch ~210k EXP

German Gneisenau branch ~210k EXP

JPN Nagato branch ~207k EXP

It's a simple math which clearly shows its far from your numbers.

[avenger121]

Just now, Hades_warrior said:

No, its not adequate, not even close.

USN Colorado branch ~210k EXP

German Gneisenau branch ~210k EXP

JPN Nagato branch ~207k EXP

It's a simple math which clearly shows its far from your numbers.

 

Yeah, because the Nelson will be exactly like the other tech tree ships. I mean look at the Missouri, it is just another Iowa, nothing special like premium ship effects on it, ............

 

Oh wait.

[mtm78]

I have well over 300 papa papa flags, and I never bought any. I haven't mounted one since they been introduced so every single one I got I kept. I might have gotten some through buying ship bundles in the past though not 100% sure. But I also got a lot of them, PTS sometimes gave papa papa iirc just as missions. 

 

Also, we don't know the included bonuses yet. A very high credit multi, a very high captain xp multi, or a combination of both. The ship could have very good internal modifiers, and WG can supply multiple cammo's for different bonuses on top of that. 

[WestyII]

1 minute ago, avenger121 said:

 

Nonsense.

WG dont model armour quality. KGV had exceptional cemented armour (14" built, equivalent to 17.5"). So she wont be an accurate representation of the class for training room duels.

Re Nelson at 350k FXP: If it is too much FXP, how are we supposed to grind this is we are meant to spend time with our families?