Discussion thread for "some interesting info around the world"

[Otto_Carius_512]

2 minutes ago, Sub_Octavian said:

Well, no. Normal T7 BB does not come with permanent camo, increased rewards, and the ability to host any RN commander without re-specializing. We're not going to make it unobtainable, but 250k is too cheap. Anyways, we (and you) will know soon enough. My personal expectations are around 350k +/- 50 k, because this is all free XP I have, huh, gotta go grab some cookies and talk with eco team.

 

That is also true for Iowa/Missouri, yet she features additional Gimmick AND earns T9 prem money and is only 40-50k above her value in gold...

Just sayin...there are a bunch of awsome T7 Prems out there...if she sails in 300k+ ranges ill use it to skip, Izumo for sure lol.

Thx for the update anyway.

[Hades_warrior]

10 minutes ago, Sub_Octavian said:

Well, no. Normal T7 BB does not come with permanent camo, increased rewards, and the ability to host any RN commander without re-specializing. We're not going to make it unobtainable, but 250k is too cheap.

How is that too cheap? If you compare those 250k cost with Missouri's 750k its equal slight uppriced compared to same tier ship of same class and same nation.

I think (as many others here im sure) that 250k is more then fair price.

If you set price to 300, or even 400k, dont expect from players to buy her.

 

Like some people said, even 250k is a challenge to get for a normal players who dont spend doubloons.

And speaking from my own perspective, Missouri is out for how long? Over 1 year? And im still far away from it.

[ShinGetsu]

13 minutes ago, Sub_Octavian said:

Well, no. Normal T7 BB does not come with permanent camo, increased rewards, and the ability to host any RN commander without re-specializing. We're not going to make it unobtainable, but 250k is too cheap. Anyways, we (and you) will know soon enough. My personal expectations are around 350k +/- 50 k, because this is all free XP I have, huh, gotta go grab some cookies and talk with eco team.

You do know 250.000 freepex requires 10.000 golds (okay, 7200 golds when there are reduction in XP conversion), and that's the price for a Saipan or any other tier 7 premium (DD excluded) ?

Don't get too carried away with the price please, it doesn't justify being more expensive than any other tier 7.

 

Actually, 350k freepex would be equivalent to 50€ of gold (14500 golds), and even an Alabama is cheaper than that.

[Herrscher_Elysia]

3 minutes ago, Otto_Carius_512 said:

 

That is also true for Iowa/Missouri, yet she features additional Gimmick AND earns T9 prem money and is only 40-50k above her value in gold...

Just sayin...there are a bunch of awsome T7 Prems out there...if she sails in 300k+ ranges ill use it to skip, Izumo for sure lol.

Thx for the update anyway.

My limit is 275K.  Anymore than that I prefer to use on my first T10 too. 

 

Missouri only 45K more than her regular sister Iowa, got 2 sets of prem camo(that double the normal exp), prem status,radar,better armoured.

 

Nelson in the other hand, worse sigma,worse 16-incher in her class. 350K? lol

[aquiles7389]

17 minutes ago, Sub_Octavian said:

Well, no. Normal T7 BB does not come with permanent camo (Mo has it), increased rewards (Mo has them), and the ability to host any RN commander without re-specializing (Mo has that skill too, for 'murican skippers). We're not going to make it unobtainable, but 250k is too cheap. Anyways, we (and you) will know soon enough. My personal expectations are around 350k +/- 50 k, because this is all free XP I have, huh, gotta go grab some cookies and talk with eco team.

 

A T9 normal BB fully researched costs around 780K XP (Iowa), and Mo is around that cost.
A T7 normal BB fully researched costs around 250K XP (Colorado), and Nelson SHOULD BE around that cost.
Sub, pretend you are not part of WG for some days, and think in a more fair and neutral way...

[Sub_Octavian]

2 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said:

How is that too cheap? If you compare those 250k cost with Missouri's 750k its equal slight uppriced compared to same tier ship of same class and same nation.

I think (as many others here im sure) that 250k is more then fair price.

If you set price to 300, or even 400k, dont expect from players to buy her.

Well, I think even more would say that 50k is a better price, but that doesn't mean it will be priced that way. We are not conducting a vote - we're calculating it internally, based on stats and our expectations. There are no price rules for free XP ships, we're most likely setting a precedent for future releases. And thus the price absolutely won't be lower than 300k.

1 minute ago, ShinGetsu said:

You do know 250.000 freepex requires 10.000 golds (okay, 7200 golds when there are reduction in XP conversion), and that's the price for a Saipan or any other tier 7 premium ?

Don't get too carried away with the price please, it doesn't justify being more expensive than any other tier 7.

The point of free XP is that it can be earned without doubloon conversion, especially with some signals and smart planning. It is reality, as we see players earnings.

Nelson is the first T7 premium for free XP, so there is no comparison. 

[aquiles7389]

10 minutes ago, ShinGetsu said:

You do know 250.000 freepex requires 10.000 golds (okay, 7200 golds when there are reduction in XP conversion), and that's the price for a Saipan or any other tier 7 premium (DD excluded) ?

Don't get too carried away with the price please, it doesn't justify being more expensive than any other tier 7.

 

Actually, 350k freepex would be equivalent to 50€ of gold (14500 golds), and even an Alabama is cheaper than that.

 

THIS

[ShinGetsu]

If you set it too high, you would have even less sales than if you set it as a "normal" premium tier 7 tho.

300k is reasonable, more is too much.

 

Actually, even at 300k I'm sure as hell I won't buy it without a reduction in free XP conversion and a huge farm with my Harekaze.

[piet11111]

Around 350K considering you can earn the xp for free as Sub Octavian said does sound fair.

[Sub_Octavian]

17 minutes ago, IJN_Kitakami said:

Missouri only 45K more than her regular sister Iowa, got 2 sets of prem camo(that double the normal exp), prem status,radar,better armoured.

Missouri was priced when in-game economic "meta" was different. If we would price her today, she would cost, I guess, a couple of hundred more.
There is no point in using Missouri as a reference, and trying to calculate the price based on her solely. She's one of the reference points.

[aquiles7389]

4 minutes ago, Sub_Octavian said:

Well, I think even more would say that 50k is a better price (It is a better price, but nobody will suggest it as we have a sense of what is fair), but that doesn't mean it will be priced that way. We are not conducting a vote (You rarely do that, so nothing changes here, we are just using our rights to say what we think about a game we spend money on) - we're calculating it internally, based on stats and our expectations. There are no price rules for free XP ships, we're most likely setting a precedent for future releases (Mo is a precedent already). And thus the price absolutely won't be lower than 300k ().
 

The point of free XP is that it can be earned without doubloon conversion, especially with some signals and smart planning. It is reality, as we see players earnings.

Nelson is the first T7 premium for free XP, so there is no comparison (See Mo). 

 

 

[Boris_MNE]

@All players and your complainings,

 

 

congrats... I could have Nelson for 40 bucks but you had to cry :D gg

[Herrscher_Elysia]

13 minutes ago, Sub_Octavian said:

Missouri was priced when in-game economic "meta" was different. If we would price her today, she would cost, I guess, a couple of hundred more.
There is no point in using Missouri as a reference, and trying to calculate the price based on her solely. She's one of the reference points.

Well... 

[Hades_warrior]

22 minutes ago, Sub_Octavian said:

Well, I think even more would say that 50k is a better price, but that doesn't mean it will be priced that way. We are not conducting a vote - we're calculating it internally, based on stats and our expectations. There are no price rules for free XP ships, we're most likely setting a precedent for future releases. And thus the price absolutely won't be lower than 300k.

 

The point of free XP is that it can be earned without doubloon conversion, especially with some signals and smart planning. It is reality, as we see players earnings.

Nelson is the first T7 premium for free XP, so there is no comparison. 

Your intern calculation will give you wrong and unwanted results. Mark my words.

Im prety sure when I say this (for those 300k) is the opinion of many players - Tnx, but i'll pass. I wouldn't mind if that ship is really good for that tier so is worth that amount of free EXP, but I highly doubt it is.

 

Yea, that EXP can be earned, BUT, it requires a lot of time, patience, and ofc flags (if you have over 100 of them), but not many players have that.

No matter if he is first T7 premium for free EXP, the point is you want to overprice him too much, which you didn't do with Missouri. How come?

[Sub_Octavian]

2 minutes ago, IJN_Kitakami said:

Well... 

[Boris_MNE]

Just now, Sub_Octavian said:

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Sub_Octavian]

2 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said:

Your intern calculation will give you wrong and unwanted results. Mark my words.

Im prety sure when I say this (for those 300k) - Tnx, but i'll pass. I wouldn't mind if that ship is really good for that tier so is worth that amount of free EXP, but I highly doubt it is.

 

Yea, that EXP can be earned, BUT, it requires a lot of time, patience, and ofc flags (if you have over xxx of them), but not many players have that.

No matter if he is first T7 premium for free EXP, the point is you want to overprice him too much, which you didn't do with Missouri. How come?

Of course we are wrong, and always will be. How can we ever be right, if several good people on forums tell us we're wrong?
Anyways, thanks for the discussion, see you soon on Asia live Q&A 

[Herrscher_Elysia]

1 minute ago, Sub_Octavian said:

Give it smoke,radar,hydro,def AA,planes,super heal then its deal.

[WestyII]

2 minutes ago, Sub_Octavian said:

Well it has been ongoing since the announcement of RN battleships....

It looks like WG are calculating how much money they can screw out of us. 

Or just put Nelson in the tree, and KGV at T8, and stick monarch on your fridge. 

[Hades_warrior]

1 minute ago, Sub_Octavian said:

Of course we are wrong, and always will be. How can we ever be right, if several good people on forums tell us we're wrong?
Anyways, thanks for the discussion, see you soon on Asia live Q&A 

I dont see only ''several'' people complain about this here.

[WestyII]

2 minutes ago, Sub_Octavian said:

Of course we are wrong, and always will be. How can we ever be right, if several good people on forums tell us we're wrong?
Anyways, thanks for the discussion, see you soon on Asia live Q&A 

100's of pages, 1000's of posts about the Royal Navy Battleship line.

"Several people"

[aquiles7389]

4 minutes ago, Sub_Octavian said:

Of course we are wrong, and always will be. How can we ever be right, if several good people on forums tell us we're wrong?
Anyways, thanks for the discussion, see you soon on Asia live Q&A 

Ohhhhhh, poor you!! I almost shed a tear.

 

"How can we ever be right, if several good people on forums tell us we're wrong?"
It's more because the amount of apology posts and statements your company usually do to us what makes us think you are usually wrong.

[WolfGewehr]

Well, we forumites are always a minority. Sadly.

 

Must pray RNGesus that the price is around 300k-350k. Higher than that goes too close to Missouri (relatively).

[ShinGetsu]

Higher than that and I'll keep my freeXP for my stock Saint Louis and the RN BBs tech tree.

[PseudoMi]

My bet is 320k Freepex.