Next move in my tech tree

[FazzoMetal]

Hi everybody!

I'm currently playing battleships in the American tech tree and I'm a bit stuck at the North Carolina. Going over tier VIII is extremely difficult and I'm evaluating what to do next:

 

- converting experience from older BBs to speed up the path to the Iowa

 

- using the free experience to start the Japanese BBs tech tree reaching quickly the Fuso (I really enjoyed playing the Haruna)

 

- using the free experience to start the new German BBs tech tree

 

I would like to do the best possible move to really enjoy my next matches in WoWs. What do you suggest me?
Thanks in advance!

[eliastion]

If you want to go for IJN BBs and enjoyed playing Haruna then definitely DON'T spend free XP to get to Fuso. Tier 3 of IJN BBs is a chore (skipping it is definitely an option) tier 4 is little better but I'd suggest suffering through that normally. Then you get to tier 5 - Kongo. That's, other than the paintjob, the Haruna you enjoyed - why would you spend precious free XP to skip a ship you KNOW you will enjoy since you already played one just like that and had fun?

In pursuit of IJN BB tree the place where your free XP could be really well used would be the Fuso, in fact - the stock configuration is quite painful there.

 

As for German BBs, if you consider them, then just wait - after all we don't really know all that much about them yet.

 

I can't say anything about high-tier BBs (neither American tree you got pretty high up nor IJN tiers VII+) since I pretty much stopped at Fuso. One day I plan to grind it but, well, it really pains me to be so slow. Kongo was extremely fun (and I have like four of them in different colors now and play them occassionally ) but, well, it's hardly a typical BB.

[Snowman79]

If you struggle with the NC then you will surely struggle with the Iowa...same playing style on both ships, the only difference is that the Iowa is faster...IJN BBs are a lot of fun after tier 3, well maybe a bit hard until you research the Myogi top hull. I researched the Izumo but I didn't buy it yet...kinda sucked in the Closed Beta. So my advice is to keep the free xp to faster upgrade high tier ships and grind your way up the old fashioned way

 

[FazzoMetal]

If you want to go for IJN BBs and enjoyed playing Haruna then definitely DON'T spend free XP to get to Fuso. Tier 3 of IJN BBs is a chore (skipping it is definitely an option) tier 4 is little better but I'd suggest suffering through that normally. Then you get to tier 5 - Kongo. That's, other than the paintjob, the Haruna you enjoyed - why would you spend precious free XP to skip a ship you KNOW you will enjoy since you already played one just like that and had fun?

In pursuit of IJN BB tree the place where your free XP could be really well used would be the Fuso, in fact - the stock configuration is quite painful there.

 

As for German BBs, if you consider them, then just wait - after all we don't really know all that much about them yet.

 

I can't say anything about high-tier BBs (neither American tree you got pretty high up nor IJN tiers VII+) since I pretty much stopped at Fuso. One day I plan to grind it but, well, it really pains me to be so slow. Kongo was extremely fun (and I have like four of them in different colors now and play them occassionally ) but, well, it's hardly a typical BB.

 

It sounds perfectly logic: it could be a good option to start the IJN BB tree and smartly use free experience to avoid the most boring parts. Thanks!

What about the Fuso? Do you enjoy it? Do you manage to reach good scores in average?

[ghostbuster_]

i would save free exp for german battleships. having something that people dont have is much better than having something that people already have.

[FazzoMetal]

If you struggle with the NC then you will surely struggle with the Iowa...same playing style on both ships, the only difference is that the Iowa is faster...IJN BBs are a lot of fun after tier 3, well maybe a bit hard until you research the Myogi top hull. I researched the Izumo but I didn't buy it yet...kinda sucked in the Closed Beta. So my advice is to keep the free xp to faster upgrade high tier ships and grind your way up the old fashioned way

 

Thanks for the feedback! I'm not properly struggling with the NC: I mean, sometimes I really do good scores (with 100k+ damage and 3-4 kills), but some other times it's really frustrating to be killed after few minutes by high tiers DDs I can't see or to be one-shotted by high tiers BBs.

I think two of the biggest problems of the NC are the poor armor and the ineffective secondary armament, it's simply useless. In this way it seems to play an extremely heavy cruiser instead of a BB. 

[FazzoMetal]

i would save free exp for german battleships. having something that people dont have is much better than having something that people already have.

 

It has its appeal ;)

But what's known about German BBs and their gameplay style?

[_x_Acheron_x_]

I enjoyed jap bb's up until nagato, then i just gave up. everyone bums it, but in reality, it's abysmal.

[fnord_disc]

 

It sounds perfectly logic: it could be a good option to start the IJN BB tree and smartly use free experience to avoid the most boring parts. Thanks!

What about the Fuso? Do you enjoy it? Do you manage to reach good scores in average?

 

Stock Fuso is horrible - one of the worst stock ships in the whole game.

 

Top Fuso is very good. The armor is kind of weak, but not as weak as Kongo. Fuso generally does well as a midrange (~13-15km) sniper because she has good accuracy and a heavy broadside with nice reload.

 

Except for the T3/4 ships the entire IJN BB tree is very strong, but they all play quite differently from each other. It's hard to generalize.

[FazzoMetal]

I enjoyed jap bb's up until nagato, then i just gave up. everyone bums it, but in reality, it's abysmal.

 

Really? When I was playing the Colorado (which I think it's not so terrible as everybody says) I really desired to have a Nagato :/

[fnord_disc]

 

Really? When I was playing the Colorado (which I think it's not so terrible as everybody says) I really desired to have a Nagato :/

 

Don't listen to him. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

Nagato is very good if you can aim well. The dispersion patterns are some of the best in the game (for battleships).

[ghostbuster_]

 

It has its appeal ;)

But what's known about German BBs and their gameplay style?

 

well i played many battles with tirpitz and i assume that they are gonna be smiler to tirpitz. hard to get citadeled, fast and manoeuvrable, good guns. 

[FazzoMetal]

 

Stock Fuso is horrible - one of the worst stock ships in the whole game.

 

Top Fuso is very good. The armor is kind of weak, but not as weak as Kongo. Fuso generally does well as a midrange (~15km) sniper because she has good accuracy and a heavy broadside with nice reload.

 

Except for the T3/4 ships the entire IJN BB tree is very strong, but they all play quite differently from each other. It's hard to generalize.

 

Thanks for the feedback, I'll eventually save some experience to go directly to the top hull.

Playing with a good main armament accuracy would be a great compensation after lots of matches with the North Carolina.

However, talking about hulls, the problem with the Iowa is that, even if I can afford it, then it will take a long time to upgrade the ship.

[BabyAdmiral]

I enjoyed jap bb's up until nagato, then i just gave up. everyone bums it, but in reality, it's abysmal.

 

Nagato and Amagi are my two favorite ships in the game. Different ships, but both extremely enjoyable. The great accuracy of Japanese BBs make them a breeze compared to US BBs. Amagi, in addition to its great accuracy, also sails very fast and can adapt to changing strategies much better than other BBs at these tiers. Nagato is just plain solid.

[FazzoMetal]

 

well i played many battles with tirpitz and i assume that they are gonna be smiler to tirpitz. hard to get citadeled, fast and manoeuvrable, good guns. 

 

And this sounds really appealing to me...

Do you know if the Deutschland class will be included? It'd be interesting.

[ghostbuster_]

 

And this sounds really appealing to me...

Do you know if the Deutschland class will be included? It'd be interesting.

 

i dont know that. :/

 

btw "hard to get citadeled" doesnt means that you can show broadside with it. you can get massive salvos on tirpitz broadside. like 20k-30k.

[fnord_disc]

If you played the ARP Kongo clones and liked them, you will like... basically all Japanese battleships Kongo and higher. They all play differently, but if you liked Kongo, then I don't see how you will hate any of them.

 

Some people hate Nagato because they can't aim and need the 12-shot broadside of Fuso to roll them a random citadel here and there. Just don't be one of those people.

[FazzoMetal]

If you played the ARP Kongo clones and liked them, you will like... basically all Japanese battleships Kongo and higher. They all play differently, but if you liked Kongo, then I don't see how you will hate any of them.

 

Some people hate Nagato because they can't aim and need the 12-shot broadside of Fuso to roll them a random citadel here and there. Just don't be one of those people.

 

I think that I would stop to the Fuso in any case, to much effort is needed after tier VI.

Maybe I would take the Iowa just to have a tier IX to join high tier matches.

[BabyAdmiral]

Some people hate Nagato because they can't aim and need the 12-shot broadside of Fuso to roll them a random citadel here and there. Just don't be one of those people.

 

So true. The Nagato have some serious cannons that does some serious damage. 1 v 1 vs Fuso is always fun - at least if you know how to angle your ship. Many Fuso captains thinks they are invinsible even vs a BB one tier up. It always brings a smile on my face when I see them melt away to my mighty guns.

 

 

[BabyAdmiral]

I think that I would stop to the Fuso in any case, to much effort is needed after tier VI.

Maybe I would take the Iowa just to have a tier IX to join high tier matches.

 

Don't do that. Many would agree that tier 7 is the best tier in this game. Stopping at tier 7 is fine, especially if you don't like slow paced battles on huge maps (which can and will happen from tier 8 and above). Stopping at tier 6 on the other hand, I really wouldn't recommend.

[fnord_disc]

 

I think that I would stop to the Fuso in any case, to much effort is needed after tier VI.

Maybe I would take the Iowa just to have a tier IX to join high tier matches.

 

Fuso facerolls T4 ships if you play well simply because of the astonishing amount of damage you pump out. She scales less well against T8 because of the subpar agility and mediocre armor. Especially T8 carriers are very painful because you have bad AA and your agility is not good enough to dodge them long enough to shoot anything down.

 

 Don't do that. Many would agree that tier 7 is the best tier in this game.

 

THIS.

[eliastion]

eliastion, on 11 July 2016 - 12:08 AM, said:

If you want to go for IJN BBs and enjoyed playing Haruna then definitely DON'T spend free XP to get to Fuso. Tier 3 of IJN BBs is a chore (skipping it is definitely an option) tier 4 is little better but I'd suggest suffering through that normally. Then you get to tier 5 - Kongo. That's, other than the paintjob, the Haruna you enjoyed - why would you spend precious free XP to skip a ship you KNOW you will enjoy since you already played one just like that and had fun?

In pursuit of IJN BB tree the place where your free XP could be really well used would be the Fuso, in fact - the stock configuration is quite painful there.

 

As for German BBs, if you consider them, then just wait - after all we don't really know all that much about them yet.

 

I can't say anything about high-tier BBs (neither American tree you got pretty high up nor IJN tiers VII+) since I pretty much stopped at Fuso. One day I plan to grind it but, well, it really pains me to be so slow. Kongo was extremely fun (and I have like four of them in different colors now and play them occassionally ) but, well, it's hardly a typical BB.

 

It sounds perfectly logic: it could be a good option to start the IJN BB tree and smartly use free experience to avoid the most boring parts. Thanks!

What about the Fuso? Do you enjoy it? Do you manage to reach good scores in average?

 

I heard it's a good ship but myself I only played enough to find out that I don't want it stock. I'm currently focusing on other vessels + Ranked and the Fuso kinda gathers dust (and seagull poop) in my port for now. One day I'll spend free XP and get it to workable configuration but that day is not today, so can't help you here  

[Kenliero]

If I were you. I would save all free XP to skip stock hulls in battleships.

[Nechrom]

If I were you. I would save all free XP to skip stock hulls in battleships.

 

^ This, so much this.

Especially if you go for IJN battleships. The A-hulls on those are comically bad.

[RUSSIANBlAS]

Iowa is a great ship but it's an NC with better guns and is HUGE. 

 

I've grinded to T9 USN and T10 IJN and whilst I love my Yam and Iowa I don't play them much. The BB gameplay in T5 to T8 is more fun than top tier. People push harder and take more risks.