[FT13] Black_Prince42 Players 154 posts 1,793 battles Report post #1 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) Hey guys So I have bought two premium ships recently. 1st is the Indianapolis because well I've read the book about her and her class isn't in the game. And 2nd is the warspite because well I'm British. Now I'm contemplating getting the arizona and rubbing the whole wargrave stuff in Americas face. Now when I play the indy it feels like every one on the enemy team is like hey its a premium ship. Now I sail with the BBs giving them AAA fire and when a single enemy spots us they fire on me not the dinosaurs. Is it this just me being cursed by RNGezus or do people purposely target premium ships being [edited] So yeah any advice on that? Side note: every ship sunk during any conflict is a wargrave so that includes the Ark Royal and Arizona stop being such fannies about it america Edited July 10, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation.~RogDodgeUK 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #2 Posted July 9, 2016 well indianapolis is a cruiser and cruiser means meal for ,battleships and cruisers. Yeah i know it isnt exactly good that you are battleships' meal but cannibalism? not cool. Jokes aside you are in a cruiser which is basically a damage pinata. I doubt there is premium ship hunt because most of the players that are still playing own a premium ship one way or another Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IRQ] AnotherDuck [IRQ] Players 2,930 posts 7,510 battles Report post #3 Posted July 9, 2016 Indianapolis also has a radar, so it's potentially dangerous to any friendly destroyers, which makes it a higher priority target. That's at least what I do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FT13] Black_Prince42 Players 154 posts 1,793 battles Report post #4 Posted July 9, 2016 Ok yeah I'm only on omaha atm so have learnt the hard way that cruisers are the easiest boats to kill. But playing today in the warspite I had some guy in a fuso, send a message saying something like 'kill the British ship it's a traitor to the eu' long story short it killed me in one broadside. How and why are all my premium baby's getting flagged within two minutes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simonmd Players 801 posts 1,673 battles Report post #5 Posted July 9, 2016 I think that a new premium ship does attract attention so while theyre looking at you, they may as well open fire! I do agree with you about the 'wargrave thing' but I think you could have put it a bit more tactfully. Every ship that was sunk with a loss of life is a wargrave, doesnt matter whether it was in port or on the high seas, the sailors of the Yamato or the Bismark for example deserve the same level of respect that the sailors in the Arizona do. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simonmd Players 801 posts 1,673 battles Report post #6 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) Ok yeah I'm only on omaha atm so have learnt the hard way that cruisers are the easiest boats to kill. But playing today in the warspite I had some guy in a fuso, send a message saying something like 'kill the British ship it's a traitor to the eu' long story short it killed me in one broadside. How and why are all my premium baby's getting flagged within two minutes Easiest? I think that a Destroyer half the size is easier, or are you referring to the fact that a DD can maneuver easier and hide? Tip for you in Omaha, shes VERY fragile in the sides so keep the bow pointed towards what your engaging or whats shooting at you. Showing a broadside to another ship in the Omaha does result in a very short game! Edited July 9, 2016 by simonmd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FT13] Black_Prince42 Players 154 posts 1,793 battles Report post #7 Posted July 9, 2016 Oh I know I miss the Louis. But still. I'm having to play checked with my premium baby's picking long range gun fights. I almost had a tirpitz today from longrange Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMoon51 Beta Tester 951 posts Report post #8 Posted July 9, 2016 I think people, if there is a tendency to target ships target ones that are uncommon and then easy(easier) to kill, the Indy ticks both those boxes. I have a Warspite too and have had a degree of success with it(compared with my average and over 250 games in it)and I find success is drawing fire away from other ships because its tanky and has better damage control you can also play it almost as a cruiser in terms of dodging shells 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #9 Posted July 9, 2016 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EsaTuunanen Beta Tester 3,552 posts 8,863 battles Report post #10 Posted July 9, 2016 Tip for you in Omaha, shes VERY fragile in the sides so keep the bow pointed towards what your engaging or whats shooting at you. Showing a broadside to another ship in the Omaha does result in a very short game! Actually bow should pointed at anything which might shoot, including destroyers. Omaha is easiest Tier 5 cruiser to citadel. While having only very flimsy be even cruiser standards 50 mm belt armor (50% thicker in Omaha) Kirov got "reballasted" deep into water to protect that weak armor making hitting citadel lot harder. (of course while keeping faster than some DDs light load speed) Furry Taco C hull is very strobust and while thinner armored Königsberg is more picky about hitting spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FT13] Black_Prince42 Players 154 posts 1,793 battles Report post #11 Posted July 9, 2016 I guess yeah the old lady is very nimble for what she is. And I'm now regretting buying both ships. Soon theyre going to be pornstar ships. Looky no touchy. And thanks for the video dude. I'll watch it for sure. But I'm still annoyed that yes because you don't see them that often it's like trying to take out han solo and is more of a prize but why is it like that. It's never been like that in world of tanks or warplanes. I'm still running the T14 on xbox (God bless her engine) and that's no she'll magnet I'll say that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #12 Posted July 9, 2016 I've never played the Indianapolis, but perhaps you could try playing the Pensacola and see whether it's the premium status that is the issue or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FT13] Black_Prince42 Players 154 posts 1,793 battles Report post #13 Posted July 9, 2016 Aha I'll play pensacola when I reach her. I know they are similar ships. Perhaps it maybe the premium status of the indy. I don't know. It might just be that a few premium ships are like han solo. You think you'll get a massive bounty out of killing them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #14 Posted July 9, 2016 Ok yeah I'm only on omaha atm so have learnt the hard way that cruisers are the easiest boats to kill. But playing today in the warspite I had some guy in a fuso, send a message saying something like 'kill the British ship it's a traitor to the eu' long story short it killed me in one broadside. How and why are all my premium baby's getting flagged within two minutes Well thats the brexit joke for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pra3y Players 3,021 posts 11,390 battles Report post #15 Posted July 10, 2016 Well for the Indi as well as any other cruisers that you play I'll advise you to get incoming fire alert and possibly skip situational awareness. Cruisers usually have pretty fast rudder shift so once you see the alert pop up u can immediately angle your ship against those incoming shells and minimise damage against them. It let's you live longer. Also maybe they fell that the Indy suffer from the same poor armour layout as the Pensacola so you'll be easy kill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JG4] JG4_sKylon Players 1,133 posts 20,992 battles Report post #16 Posted July 10, 2016 dasboshite: It has nothing to do with "shoot the premium first", it is a "learn to play" issue. 1. you have only 35 battles in random, backed up by only 126 battles in coop. You don´t know how the game work, you can´t know it with so little amount of games. 2. Your highest regular cruiser is the Phoenix with 5 games in random. Then you bought the Indy and are wondering that you get you butt handed over? Even for player who played much more games than you, the step from T6 Cleveland to T7 Pensacola is a kick in the face at first, because from there on the play style for US CAs change very much. No disrespect, but please don't play your 2 premiums in random or ranked battles, stick to CooP with them until you have more experience with regular ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IRQ] AnotherDuck [IRQ] Players 2,930 posts 7,510 battles Report post #17 Posted July 10, 2016 Even for player who played much more games than you, the step from T6 Cleveland to T7 Pensacola is a kick in the face at first, because from there on the play style for US CAs change very much. It's pretty much the same change Japanese cruiser captains go through much earlier when they get the T5 Furutaka. Or basically, going from a light cruiser to a heavy cruiser. You've got much larger guns, but they're also much slower to aim and reload. There's also that angling and positioning your ship correctly help surviving in earlier tiers, but in later tiers you're outright dead if you don't. Other ships getting those larger guns means that not only battleships can reduce you to bottom filling, but also other cruisers, in just one or two salvos if you show a broadside. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RSC] SkybuckFlying Players 1,246 posts 31,660 battles Report post #18 Posted July 10, 2016 (edited) I have been giving my players advice to blow away the cruisers first (when I play carrier) ! Hence your misery ! ;) However you the second one to complain about the Indy ! LOL Edited July 10, 2016 by SkybuckFlying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sub_Eleven Players 1,225 posts Report post #19 Posted July 10, 2016 Hi dasboshite, sorry to hear you are having some difficulties with your new ships. Do keep in mind though that both the Indianapolis and the Warspite are quite difficult to master. Even more so for newer players. Like others mentioned already, cruisers are usually the first targets people will shoot at. On top of that, radar boats draw even more attention as the enemy destroyers will most certainly ask their team to focus you to make their life easyer. It's still a decent ship, but she needs to be played very carefully. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JG4] JG4_sKylon Players 1,133 posts 20,992 battles Report post #20 Posted July 10, 2016 If you want to learn game mechanics, aiming etc. i recommend watching some youtube videos. I found the following youtubers very useful: Aerroon Business6 Flamu Notser Kenliero Flamu recently started a new game account and shows a video playing the Omaha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SinkTheOthersNotMe Players 440 posts 5,824 battles Report post #21 Posted July 10, 2016 Learn to play lower tiers first otherwise you become a liability for your team, there are already enough bad players grinding the regular lines. Premium = To make money and grind your captains -> premiums are not supposed to be a free pass to play ships at a tier one has not reached with regular lines. Best advice, play all classes in all nation trees -> find the ships you love the most and then pick wisely your favorite premium (the one in which you find yourself the most comfortable with). btw, I also suck with indianapolis and I dumped it -> but whenever I am in my BB or molotov I will really enjoy meeting you (of course you are in the red team) as I tend to citadel any cruiser sailing in straight line, it allows me to do my dmg quota (to reach unicum lvl) and then not get mad at my team suiciding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #22 Posted July 10, 2016 you could have included this also 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YUMS] cpt_gandy Beta Tester 168 posts Report post #23 Posted July 10, 2016 The number one mistake i see people make playing the Indi is that they are to agressive with them and as a result they do get punished by the other team, you need to be behind the front line crusiers and dd's that push hard to a cap but not far enoough back that you are with the BB's. One way to slow your push down is to pick a bb and escort it ( if there is a CV ) and then move in to a good position from where you can attack and move out of enemy fire from. If a player was attacking me in a Indi and he/she was bow on to me and they kept swinging the back of the ship around to use the rear guns i would wait and fire when they start to swing thier ship around to catch them in bad angles improving my chance of causing more damage. The wasd keys are are freinds and learning to use them is one of the best things you can do to help your survival in any ship and also watching some replays/youtube vids of people playing the indi or pepsi would be helpful as well as they have similar play styles. The most important thing is to enjoy the ships you sail and have fun in the game and dont let frustration get the better of you as you abilty to play the game in an effective way will drop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IntelligenceData Beta Tester 191 posts 8,160 battles Report post #24 Posted July 10, 2016 Now I sail with the BBs giving them AAA fire and when a single enemy spots us they fire on me not the dinosaurs. Is it this just me being cursed by RNGezus or do people purposely target premium ships being a holes? When I see a bunch of dinosaurus (asuming you mean BBs) and 1 CA in their mids, 9 out of 10 times I open up on the CA. I think most people will do that,so it doesn't have anything to do with the ship itself but rather with its class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FT13] Black_Prince42 Players 154 posts 1,793 battles Report post #25 Posted July 10, 2016 Ok. So from this I have learnt that 1 I miss the AT15 2 I miss the A39 3 Imma stay away from random and await the arrival of her majesties navy 4 indy stays in coop and 5 you guys are so much nicer than the arseholes on warthunder. And who complained about my nickname. Seriously unless the actual dasboshite off youtube complained why. Seriously. I couldn't have black-prince Share this post Link to post Share on other sites