Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #76 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) Will Dunkerque have also divided internally the turrets? So if it is hit only half of the turret (only two guns) will be disabled? Ok, I checked its turret HP and found that its turret has only 7500 hp (compared to 15k hp for New mexico and Fuso and 20 k hp for Warspite) I think that its turrets have 2 hit boxes for each half turret with 7500 hp each . So it is possible. Edited July 8, 2016 by Darth_Glorious 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,688 battles Report post #77 Posted July 8, 2016 I bet they are divided, like they were. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Sigimundus Weekend Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 6,566 posts 15,994 battles Report post #78 Posted July 8, 2016 Ok, I checked its turret HP and found that its turret has only 7500 hp (compared to 15k hp for New mexico and Fuso and 20 k hp for Warspite) I think that its turrets have 2 hit boxes for each half turret with 7500 hp each . So it is possible. Thank you for the info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerPurr Beta Tester 722 posts 16,744 battles Report post #79 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) Ok, I checked its turret HP and found that its turret has only 7500 hp (compared to 15k hp for New mexico and Fuso and 20 k hp for Warspite) I think that its turrets have 2 hit boxes for each half turret with 7500 hp each . So it is possible. So her one redeeming quality of having 8 front guns is compromised after the first BB salvo hits you (and yes, on the turrets cause you'll be bow on no matter what). Sounds fun. This ship is going to be a truly excellent topic-generator Edited July 8, 2016 by Architekton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #80 Posted July 8, 2016 Latest infos about tier 10 Ger BB : a/ Its armour level is comparable to Tirpitz level as tier 8 : You can survive 460 mm broadside fire from Yamato but you will take heavy damage easily from partial pen hits....The armour cannot save you from concentrated fire. b/ The guns are underwhelming and needs buffs c/ It will go live with 1 gun option : 406 or 420 mm, not both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC Players 1,139 posts Report post #81 Posted July 8, 2016 I hope the Scharnhorst and the Dunkerque are in a bundle so I have to throw money at WG only once Damit, thats a good idea. Save me buying them one at a time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Bellegar Beta Tester 1,866 posts Report post #82 Posted July 8, 2016 Latest infos about tier 10 Ger BB : a/ Its armour level is comparable to Tirpitz level as tier 8 : You can survive 460 mm broadside fire from Yamato but you will take heavy damage easily from partial pen hits....The armour cannot save you from concentrated fire. b/ The guns are underwhelming and needs buffs c/ It will go live with 1 gun option : 406 or 420 mm, not both. Just curious, although I can understand you may not want to share: where did you get all the info's? Some heavy datamining/other things I don't understand or passed from a supertester or something? You've certainly brigthened up a rather grim friday, but I was wondering how you came by such nice information Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #83 Posted July 8, 2016 So her one redeeming quality of having 8 front guns is compromised after the first BB salvo hits you (and yes, on the turrets cause you'll be bow on no matter what). Sounds fun. This ship is going to be a truly excellent topic-generator Yeah, well, I hope her turrets' will be a bit more durable, so that they don't get knocked out by single overpens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TES6L] Hawker_gb Players 283 posts 14,329 battles Report post #84 Posted July 8, 2016 Dont forget,Scharnhorst have longest naval gun hit IRL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,140 battles Report post #85 Posted July 8, 2016 Just curious, although I can understand you may not want to share: where did you get all the info's? Some heavy datamining/other things I don't understand or passed from a supertester or something? You've certainly brigthened up a rather grim friday, but I was wondering how you came by such nice information Anonymous source probably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FO] Todger_Fairmile Players 494 posts 17,547 battles Report post #86 Posted July 8, 2016 Damit, thats a good idea. Save me buying them one at a time. You jinxed it by saying it's a good idea! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ApesTogetherStronK [SCRUB] Players 1,074 posts Report post #87 Posted July 8, 2016 So the 280's aren't optional on Gneisenau because people were concerned about their effectiveness? Sod that. I wanted those barrels of pure destructive beauty. Damn it Wargaming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #88 Posted July 8, 2016 So the 280's aren't optional on Gneisenau because people were concerned about their effectiveness? Sod that. I wanted those barrels of pure destructive beauty. Damn it Wargaming. There is still a chance that the stock hull of Gneisenau will get those 11 inches. The actual stats are not definitive yet. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Ictogan Players 1,841 posts 7,432 battles Report post #89 Posted July 8, 2016 So the 280's aren't optional on Gneisenau because people were concerned about their effectiveness? Sod that. I wanted those barrels of pure destructive beauty. Damn it Wargaming. More likely because they want to sell more Scharnhorsts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #90 Posted July 8, 2016 There is still a chance that the stock hull of Gneisenau will get those 11 inches. The actual stats are not definitive yet. that would rather defeat the entire purpose of Scharnhorst's existence though...so I doubt it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerPurr Beta Tester 722 posts 16,744 battles Report post #91 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) There is still a chance that the stock hull of Gneisenau will get those 11 inches. The actual stats are not definitive yet. Really hope so. I like choices. They make life quite interesting. Just as interesting as putting a catapult between the C and D turret on a fictional German tier X BB with a funny name. Edited July 8, 2016 by Architekton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanhal Alpha Tester 5,609 posts 5,569 battles Report post #92 Posted July 8, 2016 The entire tree is filled with secondary goodness. Seems secondaries are one of the German perks... I mean just take a look at Nassau and König Albert and they make Mikasa look downright regular in secondaries. And those are just the first ships. That makes me kinda sad, as for example -2 seconds decreasing reload time or some buff to sigma would make more damage difference then every secondary in the world I don't like balancing by useless "perks" So the 280's aren't optional on Gneisenau because people were concerned about their effectiveness? Sod that. That would be complete bollocks. Whenever anyone talked about Scharnhorst/Gneisenau in context of WOWs, EVERY SINGLE discussion was mostly about the 280mm guns. On the other hand, WG still apparently haven't noticed that everyone hate the server inequality in events etc... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 2,556 posts 1,924 battles Report post #93 Posted July 8, 2016 Scharnhorst the premium will have the 280mm. I think it was to make gneisenau more competetive and prevent 2 identical ships. I do however believe they should just add both guns as an option on the gneisenau. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #94 Posted July 8, 2016 Some infos about Dunkerque : - Terrible belt armour but you can "bow on" with it - 330 mm guns have very good pen for its tier - sigma value = 1.7 In resume : a nice ship to play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPC] Psychocouac Alpha Tester 390 posts 7,502 battles Report post #95 Posted July 8, 2016 Some infos about Dunkerque : - Terrible belt armour but you can "bow on" with it - 330 mm guns have very good pen for its tier - sigma value = 1.7 In resume : a nice ship to play. Isn't 1.7 sigma value a bad thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cosseria Players 1,064 posts 4,944 battles Report post #96 Posted July 8, 2016 I really hope Dunkerque's paint scheme gets changed before release. The current one is not realistic and unappealing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #97 Posted July 8, 2016 Isn't 1.7 sigma value a bad thing? For the effective range of tier 6 BB, it is good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neigfozzt Beta Tester 2 posts 3,890 battles Report post #98 Posted July 8, 2016 The tier 10 design is really bad as already mentioned. C'mon wargaming, this 80kt monster only has 4 !!! 150 mm secondaries ? Even Bismarck had 6. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Gojuadorai Players 2,832 posts 21,712 battles Report post #99 Posted July 8, 2016 For the effective range of tier 6 BB, it is good. it isnt given the max dispersion... you have to see all 3 values (+ maybe shell speed) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #100 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) it isnt given the max dispersion... you have to see all 3 values (+ maybe shell speed) The Dunkerque feels like French tank on WOT : bad armour, good guns and good mobility. That's all I can tell you. Edited July 8, 2016 by Darth_Glorious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
