[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #751 Posted July 31, 2016 From Chinese Q&A with Sergey Vorobyev - Devs begun working on Chinese ships tech tree.( ETA : last haft of 2017). SURPRISE ? Probably being worked on by the B team, to be released on the Chinese server only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] Earl_of_Northesk Players 2,447 posts 14,711 battles Report post #752 Posted July 31, 2016 From Chinese Q&A with Sergey Vorobyev - German BBs are basically completed, they will be released soon. - Devs begun working on Chinese ships tech tree.( ETA : last haft of 2017). SURPRISE ? - There will be 4 vs 4 and 1 vs 1 mode for E-sports. Chinese tech tree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #753 Posted July 31, 2016 Probably being worked on by the B team, to be released on the Chinese server only. For all servers :v Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PONYD] GrossadmiralThrawn Players 4,995 posts 4,960 battles Report post #754 Posted July 31, 2016 For all servers :v well chinese Junks dont look that bad... but i wonder how they should deal with ships made out of steel... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] Earl_of_Northesk Players 2,447 posts 14,711 battles Report post #755 Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) For all servers :v Not sure. Anyhow, the only viable tech tree would be a DD one, which means a lot of copy-pasta Designs. Shouldn't take too long. We shouldn't be surprised though, the game seems to work VERY well in China. Edited July 31, 2016 by Earl_of_Northesk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #756 Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) Not sure. Anyhow, the only viable tech tree would be a DD one, which means a lot of copy-pasta Designs. Shouldn't take too long. We shouldn't be surprised though, the game seems to work VERY well in China. I think that it will be a mix tree because they collected data about Beiyang Fleet ships... Edited July 31, 2016 by Darth_Glorious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] Earl_of_Northesk Players 2,447 posts 14,711 battles Report post #757 Posted July 31, 2016 I think that it will be a mix tree because they collected data about Beiyang Fleet ships... There is no viable ship in the Beyiang Fleet. Doesn't make sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #758 Posted July 31, 2016 The news about chinese tech tree is here : http://wows.duowan.com/1607/333891842593.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PONYD] GrossadmiralThrawn Players 4,995 posts 4,960 battles Report post #759 Posted July 31, 2016 iguess this is hte surpirse htne Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #760 Posted July 31, 2016 iguess this is hte surpirse htne "Surprise"... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartassNoob Players 723 posts 5,774 battles Report post #761 Posted July 31, 2016 China had a significant fleet from 1900 to 1945? Well learn something every day, I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NED] piet11111 Players 2,225 posts 8,827 battles Report post #762 Posted July 31, 2016 I am looking forward to the chinese navy and the many many threads about it being a copy pasta from the russian line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KPtja Players 273 posts 2,478 battles Report post #763 Posted July 31, 2016 China had a significant fleet from 1900 to 1945? Well learn something every day, I guess. what does China fleet being significant or not have to do with anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PONYD] GrossadmiralThrawn Players 4,995 posts 4,960 battles Report post #764 Posted July 31, 2016 what does China fleet being significant or not have to do with anything? well... chinese fleet (and red fleet to for that matter) but still no french navy or Regia Marina is a tad annoying for some people Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] ImperialAdmiral [COMFY] Players 1,649 posts 9,828 battles Report post #765 Posted July 31, 2016 Hey. May I ask what's the torpedo protection value on both tier IX and X? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #766 Posted July 31, 2016 https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2016/07/31/wows-new-ap-normalization/ Standardizing AP normalization In 0.5.10, all ships equipped with AP shells will no longer have normalization values based on the actual (or historical) performance of a single type of AP shell, instead, the new normalization values are determined by the caliber of the gun. *This also affects secondary guns that shoot AP Rules are as the following: ≤ 130mm AP shells have normalization of 10° 131mm – 152mm AP shells have normalization of 8.5° 153mm – 220mm AP shells have normalization of 7° ≥ 221mm AP shells have normalization of 6° This change affects the following ships: Nerfs -Mogami , Yamato (secondary guns), 155mm AP from 8.6° to 7° -Furutaka, 200mm AP from 8.2° to 7° -Furutaka, Aoba, Myoko, Mogami, Atago, Ibuki, Zao, 203mm AP from 8.2° to 7° -Scharnhorst, Nassau , 283mm AP from 8° to 6° -König Albert, Kaiser, König, Kawachi, Ishizuchi, 305mm AP from 8° to 6° -New Mexico (Upgraded), 356mm AP from 7.9° to 6° -North Carolina, Iowa, Montana, 406mm AP from 6.8° to 6° Buffs Excluding the above mentioned ships, this change will increase the normalization of all the ships in-game by 6% to 56% Tier 1 ship changes In 0.5.10, the four tier 1 ships will be changed as the following: – HP will be halved – AP shells removed – HE shell will do 50% of its current damage – Special MM, only sees tier 1s – New fire control upgrade, increases main battery range by 10% – 20% fire prevention (about the same as a fully upgraded tier 5) (TN: WG is slapping the seal clubbers hard) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,770 battles Report post #767 Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) You get nerfed, you get nerfed! Everyone get nerfed! And [edited] the diversiy too. In 0.5.10, all ships equipped with AP shells will no longer have normalization values based on the actual (or historical) performance of a single type of AP shell, instead, the new normalization values are determined by the caliber of the gun. Edited July 31, 2016 by Webley_Mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,155 battles Report post #768 Posted July 31, 2016 Let´s wait. That is an unreliable chinese scource. Should WG repeat that in the patch preview, we can still give them our opinion about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PONYD] GrossadmiralThrawn Players 4,995 posts 4,960 battles Report post #769 Posted July 31, 2016 Tier 1 ship changesIn 0.5.10, the four tier 1 ships will be changed as the following:– HP will be halved– AP shells removed– HE shell will do 50% of its current damage– Special MM, only sees tier 1s– New fire control upgrade, increases main battery range by 10%– 20% fire prevention (about the same as a fully upgraded tier 5) hmh... so they wanna prepare the AP-based branch of german cruisers... which already have suboptimal HE ammo.. Wth removing the AP from the Hermelin and making the bad HE even worse... and takin away the hermelins strength... its 3000 DMG AP shell... and what will it have? 750 DMG HE... with all other ships having a nastier bang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[1DSF] Carnivore81 Moderator, In AlfaTesters 3,523 posts 9,588 battles Report post #770 Posted July 31, 2016 Let´s wait. That is an unreliable chinese scource. Should WG repeat that in the patch preview, we can still give them our opinion about that. AT least the changes of T1 are True gm3d show that aswell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Unintentional_submarine [SPUDS] Beta Tester 4,052 posts 8,765 battles Report post #771 Posted July 31, 2016 https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2016/07/31/wows-new-ap-normalization/ Standardizing AP normalizationIn 0.5.10, all ships equipped with AP shells will no longer have normalization values based on the actual (or historical) performance of a single type of AP shell, instead, the new normalization values are determined by the caliber of the gun.*This also affects secondary guns that shoot AP Rules are as the following:≤ 130mm AP shells have normalization of 10°131mm – 152mm AP shells have normalization of 8.5°153mm – 220mm AP shells have normalization of 7°≥ 221mm AP shells have normalization of 6° This change affects the following ships: Nerfs-Mogami , Yamato (secondary guns), 155mm AP from 8.6° to 7°-Furutaka, 200mm AP from 8.2° to 7°-Furutaka, Aoba, Myoko, Mogami, Atago, Ibuki, Zao, 203mm AP from 8.2° to 7°-Scharnhorst, Nassau , 283mm AP from 8° to 6°-König Albert, Kaiser, König, Kawachi, Ishizuchi, 305mm AP from 8° to 6°-New Mexico (Upgraded), 356mm AP from 7.9° to 6°-North Carolina, Iowa, Montana, 406mm AP from 6.8° to 6° BuffsExcluding the above mentioned ships, this change will increase the normalization of all the ships in-game by 6% to 56% Tier 1 ship changesIn 0.5.10, the four tier 1 ships will be changed as the following:– HP will be halved– AP shells removed– HE shell will do 50% of its current damage– Special MM, only sees tier 1s– New fire control upgrade, increases main battery range by 10%– 20% fire prevention (about the same as a fully upgraded tier 5)(TN: WG is slapping the seal clubbers hard) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Ictogan Players 1,841 posts 7,432 battles Report post #772 Posted July 31, 2016 hmh... so they wanna prepare the AP-based branch of german cruisers... which already have suboptimal HE ammo.. Wth removing the AP from the Hermelin and making the bad HE even worse... and takin away the hermelins strength... its 3000 DMG AP shell... and what will it have? 750 DMG HE... with all other ships having a nastier bang Why do you even care about a t1 ship? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PONYD] GrossadmiralThrawn Players 4,995 posts 4,960 battles Report post #773 Posted July 31, 2016 Why do you even care about a t1 ship? 1) it will just teach more people to spam HE even if AP would be the better choice... especially for the german ships 2) it might kepe players form the german tree away just because of the "weakness" of the Hermelin 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Ictogan Players 1,841 posts 7,432 battles Report post #774 Posted July 31, 2016 1) it will just teach more people to spam HE even if AP would be the better choice... especially for the german ships 2) it might kepe players form the german tree away just because of the "weakness" of the Hermelin 1) I don't think anyone ever learned how to use HE or AP on a t1. 2) I don't think a ship that you only need to play a handful of battles in will make people avoid a line. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartassNoob Players 723 posts 5,774 battles Report post #775 Posted July 31, 2016 what does China fleet being significant or not have to do with anything? Well for example, I didn't even know that they had any battleships, or large cruisers seeing as how at the time China was a relatively poor nation with low grade industry. Also, it seems they hate people who play tier 1 battles and want those battles to last less time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites