anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC Players 1,139 posts Report post #51 Posted July 8, 2016 Aren't the stripes more for neutrailty, since other Navies' ships had stripes of the same colour on their turrets during the Spanish Civil War. Here's Warspite as an example. I could have been at the start of the Spanish civil war, where France, Britain and Germany all patrolled areas around Spain, in order to evacuate civilians. I seem to remember the Deutschland's also having them on the forward turret roof during that operation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MakiseKurisuEU Players 11 posts Report post #52 Posted July 8, 2016 What's with the 88k HP on the T10? That's almost 10k less than the Yamato. just noticed the tonnage of the tier10 German BB: it's 80,058 tons, more than 7000 tons heavier than Yamato (72,800 tons), yet almost 10k hp less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #53 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) Latest info : sigma value of all German BB guns are 1.8 like Tirpitz... so..... Edited July 8, 2016 by Darth_Glorious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRTD] pUREsTORM Players 67 posts 6,653 battles Report post #54 Posted July 8, 2016 I could have been at the start of the Spanish civil war, where France, Britain and Germany all patrolled areas around Spain, in order to evacuate civilians. I seem to remember the Deutschland's also having them on the forward turret roof during that operation. I know Graf Spee had neutraility stripes, though not quite the same colour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_XGuN6pHmfiJ9 Players 460 posts Report post #55 Posted July 8, 2016 Some extra pics from the American forum: (http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/86512-french-battleship-dunkerque/) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #56 Posted July 8, 2016 Some extra pics from the American forum: (http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/86512-french-battleship-dunkerque/) *squeeling intensifies* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[F_D] Adwaenyth Alpha Tester 1,194 posts 6,192 battles Report post #57 Posted July 8, 2016 Bismarck has 7 km secondary gun range while Tirpitz has only 4.5 km secondary gun range :v. WG amazed me :v You did notice that Tirpitz has some other arguments at up to 6 km range too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] Panzerblitz Alpha Tester 411 posts 11,153 battles Report post #58 Posted July 8, 2016 Dunkerque looks terribly high in the water in the midship section. With her BC armor you should never, ever show your broadside, but as long as you angle properly she should be good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #59 Posted July 8, 2016 German tier 10 BB Greater Elector pic : Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #60 Posted July 8, 2016 Dunkerque looks terribly high in the water in the midship section. With her BC armor you should never, ever show your broadside, but as long as you angle properly she should be good. All her main firepower is to the front. If you're not angled, you've got no excuse AT ALL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPC] NoirLotus [CPC] Quality Poster 2,545 posts 13,085 battles Report post #61 Posted July 8, 2016 yeah why they havnt chosen another camo with less french over it... well guess french player like it... It seems that tricolor marking on turrets is Vichy Régime camo pattern, so in fact no French players like me won't like it !! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #62 Posted July 8, 2016 It seems that tricolor marking on turrets is Vichy Régime camo pattern, so in fact no French players like me won't like it !! Unfortunately she spent most of her combat carrier with the Vichy french, so that's a bummer, but we have to roll with it. Of course if we find another camo scheme that she did have, I'm all for suggesting it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerPurr Beta Tester 722 posts 16,744 battles Report post #63 Posted July 8, 2016 I'm pretty sure Dunkerque is featured in her final config (funnel cap etc.) The French Flag paint job in this case is unrelated to the Neutrality patrol which took place during the Spanish Civil War.irc this is how she looked during the Vichy regime around 1942 (the French colors) but I'm unsure about the hull camo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerPurr Beta Tester 722 posts 16,744 battles Report post #64 Posted July 8, 2016 It seems that tricolor marking on turrets is Vichy Régime camo pattern, so in fact no French players like me won't like it !! Sorry, you posted before me. Don't want to come across like a parrot :-) Yeah, very 'curious' color decision for sure! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,688 battles Report post #65 Posted July 8, 2016 It seems that tricolor marking on turrets is Vichy Régime camo pattern, so in fact no French players like me won't like it !! Oh.... The French like her. It's going to be an instabuy. Ahahaha... So much money for WG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Comrad_StaIin Beta Tester 4,594 posts 20,080 battles Report post #66 Posted July 8, 2016 I hope the Scharnhorst and the Dunkerque are in a bundle so I have to throw money at WG only once 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] Panzerblitz Alpha Tester 411 posts 11,153 battles Report post #67 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) All her main firepower is to the front. If you're not angled, you've got no excuse AT ALL. Come on. We both know that 1 hour after release we will have people in here crying how she is weak. And then you watch their replays and go Edited July 8, 2016 by Panzerblitz 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KubusSc7 Beta Tester 180 posts 9,596 battles Report post #68 Posted July 8, 2016 What's with the 88k HP on the T10? That's almost 10k less than the Yamato. The H39 alone is bigger than Yamato. So the H42 or whatever this monster is, is even bigger. But for that low hp she betetr has some better armor...or I doN#t know why Wg would say she excells at survivability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #69 Posted July 8, 2016 Come one. We both know that 1 hour after release we will have people in here crying how she is weak. And then you watch their replays and go I'm going to get to feast on their tears, and call them idiots, esp after I go out there and rek stuff with her. My main complaint so far is that she used to be able to make 32+ knots, yet in game she'll be just short of 30. I can understand why WG wouldn't let her be as fast as a CA, but I for one will be flying speed flags on her and wreck faces with my accompanying cruisers. Although speed flags may be a waste when one's advancing at half, quarter or full reverse speed full bow-on, but hey, sometimes you just need the extra knot or two. I for one would have put this ship at T7, but I'm thinking that it may be a case similar to that of Scharnhorst and Gneisenau, where Scharnhorst is the prem and Gneisenau the reg, only here Strasbourg would be T7 (and better). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Unintentional_submarine [SPUDS] Beta Tester 4,052 posts 8,765 battles Report post #70 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) 88k HP is a surprise when we were told that the Germans featured better survivability. I mean we can't expect Kurfürst to have 33mm plating to protect from Yamato's lol-pens, so what does her armoure actually do? Protect from short range citadels? Pffft... So it won't be a one-shot and instead leave you with 10k HP. Hardly a massive improvement, to warrant this discrepancy. I'm not impressed to be sure. Unfortunately there isn't a torpedo protection stat shown. But that was one area we were told they would be better off. But I have a hard time seeing Yamato losing that throne. [EDIT] Thankfully I just noticed the speeds of König and Bayern, and they are surprisingly good. 24 and 25 knots. So it follows well with the 23 knots of Kaiser, and shows that the researchers did their job and didn't just go with the commonly stated 21 knots. I knew from Kaiser that the speeds would probably be better than expected, but this was actually somewhat more than even I had hoped for. In fact it might be a little too fast... but not by a great deal. Edited July 8, 2016 by Unintentional_submarine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KubusSc7 Beta Tester 180 posts 9,596 battles Report post #71 Posted July 8, 2016 Wow...Bismarck will have 7 km sec gun range...I am getting so wet right now! We can have a 31kn fast Bismarck with 11km sec gun range who has betetr AA than Tirpitz! @.@ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] Panzerblitz Alpha Tester 411 posts 11,153 battles Report post #72 Posted July 8, 2016 Those secondaries are a thing of beauty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Unintentional_submarine [SPUDS] Beta Tester 4,052 posts 8,765 battles Report post #73 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) Wow...Bismarck will have 7 km sec gun range...I am getting so wet right now! We can have a 31kn fast Bismarck with 11km sec gun range who has betetr AA than Tirpitz! @.@ The entire tree is filled with secondary goodness. Seems secondaries are one of the German perks... I mean just take a look at Nassau and König Albert and they make Mikasa look downright regular in secondaries. And those are just the first ships. Edited July 8, 2016 by Unintentional_submarine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Sigimundus Weekend Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 6,566 posts 15,994 battles Report post #74 Posted July 8, 2016 Will Dunkerque have also divided internally the turrets? So if it is hit only half of the turret (only two guns) will be disabled? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #75 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) Will Dunkerque have also divided internally the turrets? So if it is hit only half of the turret (only two guns) will be disabled? don't know Edited July 8, 2016 by Darth_Glorious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
