Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #1 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) * All german BB guns have a sigma value of 1.8 except 2.0. for Koenig guns. ** Please note that the rudder shift time that you see here is 1,3 times bigger than the in-game value. Tier 10 German BB Greater Elector 2 gun options : 4 x 3 406 mm or 4 x 3 420 mm German tier 10 BB Greater Elector pic : Other stats : Tier 9 German BB Frederick the Great 2 gun options : 4 x 2 406 mm or 4 x 2 420 mm Other stats : Tier 8 German BB Bismarck 4 x 2 380 mm gun Other stats : Tier 7 German BB Gneisenau 3 x 2 380 mm gun + same torps as Tirpitz Other stats : Tier 6 German BB Bayern Other stats : Tier 5 German BB Konig Other stats : Tier 4 German BB Kaiser Other stats : Tier 3 German BB Nassau Other stats : Tier 6 premium BB French BB Dunkerque Other stats : Edited July 8, 2016 by Darth_Glorious 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Ubertron_X [NWP] Beta Tester 2,657 posts 25,683 battles Report post #2 Posted July 8, 2016 Großer Kurfürst looks ridiculous. It either has 500mm armor all over, else these stats do not make much sense. Dat rudder shift time alone... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Historynerd Beta Tester 4,249 posts 848 battles Report post #3 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) Am I wrong, or does it look like the Dunkerque's 130 mm guns are of little value in the AA role? EDIT: I was wrong, they work alright. However, in terms of AA power, she's rather weak, I fear... Edited July 8, 2016 by Historynerd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TMCB] Kamataron Players 247 posts 15,434 battles Report post #4 Posted July 8, 2016 Wondering how big she will be.. 300 meters? It will be bigger than Yamato! Dunkerque looks promising.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Mayv Players 1,952 posts 7,021 battles Report post #5 Posted July 8, 2016 Kurfurst has a 1050 turning circle. That just made my DDs quite happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BW-UK] Gunship14 Players 850 posts Report post #6 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) What's with the 88k HP on the T10? That's almost 10k less than the Yamato. Edited July 8, 2016 by Gunship14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Comrad_StaIin Beta Tester 4,594 posts 20,080 battles Report post #7 Posted July 8, 2016 What's with the 88k HP on the T10? That's almost 10k less than the Yamato. it better has ridicules aremor than Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MakiseKurisuEU Players 11 posts Report post #8 Posted July 8, 2016 Großer Kurfürst looks ridiculous. It either has 500mm armor all over, else these stats do not make much sense. Dat rudder shift time alone... The rudder shift time on this site is different from what's displayed in port. For example Montana is 28.97sec on the site and 22.2sec ingame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NameChangingIsToExpensiv Players 260 posts 3,757 battles Report post #9 Posted July 8, 2016 The rudder shift time on this site is different from what's displayed in port. For example Montana is 28.97sec on the site and 22.2sec ingame. Okay, than the rudder shift time is actually quite good for t10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #10 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) The rudder shift time on this site is different from what's displayed in port. For example Montana is 28.97sec on the site and 22.2sec ingame. I don't know Edited July 8, 2016 by Darth_Glorious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Ubertron_X [NWP] Beta Tester 2,657 posts 25,683 battles Report post #11 Posted July 8, 2016 ... ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilJumpa Beta Tester 4,603 posts 7,488 battles Report post #12 Posted July 8, 2016 Thx for the work making screens of the stats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC Players 1,139 posts Report post #13 Posted July 8, 2016 If they really do this I call it a step in the wrong direction. There is much rage on the forum already about how high tier BBs are cowardly snipers mostly. However who is to blame as I will not go brawling in a brick either. Its chicken or egg though isnt it. You could take your T10 BB brawling, but it needs team work from cruisers to helping you do that. A lot of cruiser and BB players dont always see eye to eye, and fail to understand the difficulty of each others class. Especially at those high tiers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MakiseKurisuEU Players 11 posts Report post #14 Posted July 8, 2016 If they really do this I call it a step in the wrong direction. There is much rage on the forum already about how high tier BBs are cowardly snipers mostly. However who is to blame as I will not go brawling in a brick either. Don't worry there's no nerf. It's just the rudder shift time shown on that site is different than what's displayed in port. Every single ship on that site has the same thing not just Montana. For example Moskva's is 14.26sec and ingame is 10.9sec. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-LSM-] rituel Beta Tester 58 posts 5,005 battles Report post #15 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) Scharnhorst Edited July 8, 2016 by rituel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martinborgen Players 144 posts 4,554 battles Report post #16 Posted July 8, 2016 I'm not a fan of Gneisenau's default loadout with 3x2 380mm, because she never had those. At least make it an upgrade! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Gojuadorai Players 2,832 posts 21,712 battles Report post #17 Posted July 8, 2016 Dunkerque can i have it without so much french flag all over it please???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zogash85 Beta Tester 516 posts 4,160 battles Report post #18 Posted July 8, 2016 I'm not a fan of Gneisenau's default loadout with 3x2 380mm, because she never had those. At least make it an upgrade! +1 I was fully expecting something akin to the Mogami... not even getting the 280mm as an option is a major bummer. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MakiseKurisuEU Players 11 posts Report post #19 Posted July 8, 2016 Dunkerque Scharnhorst Holy crap those models look amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unofficial Beta Tester 27 posts 785 battles Report post #20 Posted July 8, 2016 can i have it without so much french flag all over it please???? properly part of the prem camo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FO] Todger_Fairmile Players 494 posts 17,547 battles Report post #21 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) I'm not a fan of Gneisenau's default loadout with 3x2 380mm, because she never had those. At least make it an upgrade! 1 way to sell Scharnhorst's. Also,a lot of people were complaining that 9 11" just won't cut it at tier 7, so this answers that complaint concern. Of course quite a few don't think 6 15's are enough either. Edited July 8, 2016 by Todger_Fairmile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #22 Posted July 8, 2016 Ok, I want to clarify something here: the rudder shift time that you see here is 1,3 times bigger than the in-game value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #23 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) 1 way to sell Scharnhorst's. Also,a lot of people were complaining that 9 11" just won't cut it at tier 7, so this answeres that complaint concern. Of course quite a few don't think 6 15's are enough either. Following my source, the Scharnhorst's 11 inches guns struggles to pen tier 6 Fuso, so you should be thankful that the Gneisenau has 15 inches stock guns Edited July 8, 2016 by Darth_Glorious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Ictogan Players 1,841 posts 7,432 battles Report post #24 Posted July 8, 2016 So they have done what I feared with Gneisenau and only given it the 380mm guns, which will probably be rather bad - I could imagine that the experience of playing it will be similar to another BB with only 6 barrels and bad dispersion. Another reason why I dislike it is because now using the historical configuration on the Gneisenau isn't possible anymore. Might not buy the Scharnhorst because of this(would've bought it otherwise). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC Players 1,139 posts Report post #25 Posted July 8, 2016 can i have it without so much french flag all over it please???? It was part of the original camo the french used on it, at one point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
