German BB line !

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

So here they are!

 

[Zogash85]

Oh yeah! HYPE

 

So Gneisenau really is the regular. Good.

 

Can't wait!

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

My god the name of tiers 9 and 10 

 

well yeah , now curious of the stats of Grober kurfurst

[Comrad_StaIin]

 

The same, stats will probably leak soon  

But "bigger elector" in tier 10 looks strange for a ship name. 

And tier 9 is the best "big Friedrich" 

tier 9 means friedrich the great

[LilJumpa]

for my friends without a german keyboard layout ,here are some letters to copy & paste 

 

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[GrossadmiralThrawn]

tier 9 means friedrich the great

 

yep... "Friedrich der Große" = Friedrich the Great... like in Carouls Magnus... Charlemagne... Karl der Große/Charles the Great

 

also: Großer Kurfürst means "Great elector" not big(ger), this guy, Alter Fritz' Great grandfather https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_William,_Elector_of_Brandenburg (also had a König-class named after him) but tbh i think Tier X should've been Friedrich and Tier IX should've been Kurfürst

 

btw from what i've read it seems the Tier X will have 4 3x Turrets... which is rather strange since the only german BBs ever mounting 3x turrets were the Scharn and Gneisenau because the 38 twins werent ready.. i think they simply didnt want to buff anything in regards of dispersion, penetration or whatever

[fnord_disc]

Good ship names for the H class. Plausible.

 

Would have swapped them to make Frederick T10, but it's fine.

 

Gonna love the crapout of Bayern.

[Webley_Mark]

Would have seen a "Großdeutschland" for the T-X.

[_Dezerter]

The new BB line will be connected to existing German tree through which ship: Dresden or Kolberg ?

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

Would have seen a "Großdeutschland" for the T-X.

 

thats the part most of players expected that ship on t10, but still i m sure curent t10 will be stronger then montana

 

_Dezerter from Kolberg

[Zogash85]

Would have seen a "Großdeutschland" for the T-X.

 

Yeah... "Großer Kurfürst" is incredibly un-WW2-ish, especially for a super battleship. "Friedrich der Große" (Frederick the Great) is fine, but there are many more fitting names they could have gone with for the T-X.

[Unintentional_submarine]

So they abandoned the Grossdeutschland for T10. Still odd to see Grosser Kurfürst as T10 over Friedrich der Grosse... A reverse of the names would be fitting.

 

Overall the line brings no surprises other than the names of the two H ships. Everything else is as expected.

[ilhilh]

So excited about having a new BB line

 

[GrossadmiralThrawn]

 

Yeah... "Großer Kurfürst" is incredibly un-WW2-ish, especially for a super battleship. "Friedrich der Große" (Frederick the Great) is fine, but there are many more fitting names they could have gone with for the T-X.

 

like Großdeutschland... Hitler feared the propaganda distaster a sinking of a ship with germanys name would bring (hence renaming of the Heavy Cruiser Deutschland)... no BB would've been named "Großdeutschland"... his own suggestions were Götz von BErlichingen (should've had his most famous words on the ship then... er kann mich am ar... lecken/he can kiss my ar.. hehehe) or someone else...

 

but imho really Tier X should've been Friedrich der Große and IX Großer Kurfürst

 

 

That's whhy I don't like german language.  

 

 

insert Götz von Berlichingens famous words here

[fnord_disc]

To reiterate, Großdeutschland is an implausible name for a battleship because Hitler was obsessed with the propaganda impact it would have if something called -deutschland sank. That's why he had the pocket battleship renamed to Lützow.

[Masterrix]

poor H41...

 

WGN fantasy-enthusiasts are raping her with tripple-gun turrets......1 billion yards away of any historical context, including german design philosophy for BBs ......

 

and why ? because of balancing ?

 

why doesnt WGN buff the historically planned 4x2 setup with better RoF, dispersion ?

 

they have completely replaced the planned gunnery by a poor fantasy setup, that is in radical contrast to the german bettleship design philosophy.

 

No single german H-class BB was ever planned with guns like these.

And the germans always followed the 4x2 setup, because it was their philosophy.

even Scharnhorst  was only mounted with smaller 3x11" because the 2x15" werent rdy..

 

so ,pls WGN, dont tell me that u had no other choice because of balancing,

there are so many "soft stats" u could have used to balance the guns/the ship for T10

 

thats just a shame

[fnord_disc]

How about you give us a source for triple guns blah?

[daki]

Would have seen a "Großdeutschland" for the T-X.

 

For sure sounds better (though I am neither German nor do I speak it ).

I guess its the political correctness issue, i.e. its sounds like "Greater Germany" which again sounds quite a bit like "Greater Germanic Reich"

 

[Unintentional_submarine]

Where do you guys get the impression Grosser Kurfürst will have triples? Certainly can't see it from that small grainy image in the tier list.

If there isn't a hard source for this I suggest holding back any complaints.

[CuddlyPanda]

for my friends without a german keyboard layout ,here are some letters to copy & paste 

 

ß 

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Thank you! 

 

And also this:

[GrossadmiralThrawn]

 

For sure sounds better (though I am neither German nor do I speak it ).

I guess its the political correctness issue, i.e. its sounds like "Greater Germany" which again sounds quite a bit like "Greater Germanic Reich"

 

 

The ships neither received names nor were official name proposals published. The names, which appear in several publications (Hindenburg, Friedrich der Große, Großdeutschland) are pure speculation. Especially the often mentioned Großdeutschland (= "Greater Germany") is highly unlikely, as Hitler always feared the loss of a vessel with name of Germany (compare the renaming of Deutschland to Lützow).^[13]The only hint on the names of the units were given by Hitler himself, who mentioned during documented unofficial talks, that he would propose the names Ulrich von Hutten and Götz von Berlichingen for the ships, as these names are not connected with persons of the third Reich or the country itself, so the loss would not have a significant negative psychological and propaganda effect on the German people.^[13][14]

 

this is the main reason why many users were and are against Großdeutschland

[salva_barbus]

Even with that tiny an image, the last battleships look gorgeous!!!! Colour me interested indeed

[anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC]

Unless I missed it, I havent seen anything to suggest H41 will have tripple turrets. I assume it will keep the 4x2 setup.

[daki]

Where do you guys get the impression Grosser Kurfürst will have triples? Certainly can't see it from that small grainy image in the tier list.

If there isn't a hard source for this I suggest holding back any complaints.

 

Agreed there, very difficult to see from small pics.

That being said, from playing perspective, I would always prefer 2x3 frontal turrets than 2x2 no matter any WG buffs (which are never that great to compensate 2 shells less)

[Masterrix]

Unless I missed it, I havent seen anything to suggest H41 will have tripple turrets. I assume it will keep the 4x2 setup.

 

 

than lets take a look on the large picture, showing H41 (left side) and H39 (right side)