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So WG has planned to release a French premium ship for 2016. It would be the first French ship in the game.

 

So what do we already know:

(source : http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/43663-discution-sur-les-navires-francais-et-leur-integrataion-dans-le-jeu/)

 

- IT WON'T BE THE RICHELIEU

- It won't be a ship from 1940 or later. They have said it will be a earlier design.

- It will be around Tier 5 or 6. 

- They also said it will be from the lower tiers. So Tier 4 or 5 (?).

 

Also...

- I have a feeling that WG prefer real ships for premium.

- WG prefer ships with some history. Preferably some heroic history  

- WG picks from all lines. So it could be a DD, CA, BB or CV. But I think a CV is very unlikely.

 

My 1th pick would be the battleship Bretagne and the attack on Mers-el-Kébir. I would take the latest version after the update of 1932-1933.

It would be a nice Tier V in my humble opinion. (Maybe only a Tier IV?)

fr_bb_48.gif

 

My second pick would be cruiser Waldeck-Rousseau. I would pick the version 1930 with the seaplane.

Has some history with white Russians. So I think WG would like that. Also tier v?

300px-Dreanoughts_Waldeck_Rousseau.jpg

 

So what do the WOWs players think. Which ship will be the first French ship in the game.

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To be honest, tier 6 to tier 8 is my sweet spot in terms of ship tiers. I'm getting a little tired of low tier stuff. The battles are a little boring and the ships less advanced and some of them look really poop. Glad I got that off my chest!

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Gloire (Glory en English) : CL with 3x3 152 mm plus some torpedoes (2x2 550 mm).

 

Perfect for T6 !!

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No Richelieu ? Noooooooo

 

 

 

No Tanatoy (from the French WG staff) said:

 

Un jour peut être mais pas celui ci, c'est un navire de bas tiers apparemment. ( Richelieu est trop récent ) 

 

He is litterly saying that Richeliu is to recent. And 'bas tiers apparement" means the "lower tiers apparently". Is Tier 6 seen as the lower tiers?

 

In another comment WG says they already have picked the ship for months. And that was at 28/03/2016 when they said that.

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The Dunkerque-class battleship Strasbourg seems like a pretty likely candidate, being present at Mers-el-Kébir and surviving to be the flagship when scuttled at Toulon. She was also somewhat different from her sistership Dunkerque in terms of armour and AA.

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The Dunkerque-class battleship Strasbourg seems like a pretty likely candidate, being present at Mers-el-Kébir and surviving to be the flagship when scuttled at Toulon. She was also somewhat different from her sistership Dunkerque in terms of armour and AA.

 

I would go with that.

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Cross topic: French navy tech tree.

 

I would bet for Duquesne class cruiser at tier V or Suffren class cruiser at tier VI.

 

Galissonnière fit better in the regular tech tree i made because from tier IV to tier VII there is only light cruisers. This is more logical than going for 203mm for tier V and VI and then come back to 152mm (or 127mm) at tier VII (De grasse class cruiser which is Atlanta-like) where there is no other candidate.

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My 1th pick would be the battleship Bretagne and the attack on Mers-el-Kébir. I would take the latest version after the update of 1932-1933.

It would be a nice Tier V in my humble opinion. (Maybe only a Tier IV?)

fr_bb_48.gif

 

My second pick would be cruiser Waldeck-Rousseau. I would pick the version 1930 with the seaplane.

Has some history with white Russians. So I think WG would like that. Also tier v?

300px-Dreanoughts_Waldeck_Rousseau.jpg

 

So what do the WOWs players think. Which ship will be the first French ship in the game.

 

The Bretagne is the lead ship of her class, so it's unlikely we'll see her.

 

The Waldeck-Rousseau was an armoured cruiser, which is a no-go with WG.

 

Personally, I am inclined to believe it will be a destroyer.

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so no italian premium this year. ho well, i have to admit the defeat, i suppose :unsure:... btw... a destroyer? we are full of destroyers premium. we need someting different... i know DDs are easier to model and to ballance respect to CAs and BBs, but what people prefer? the first ship of an upcoming nation have the duty to improve the interest for that nation. a DD is not so... showy? i hope in one BB or CA.

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so no italian premium this year. ho well, i have to admit the defeat, i suppose :unsure:... btw... a destroyer? we are full of destroyers premium. we need someting different... i know DDs are easier to model and to ballance respect to CAs and BBs, but what people prefer? the first ship of an upcoming nation have the duty to improve the interest for that nation. a DD is not so... showy? i hope in one BB or CA.

 

Well, I personally feel that one of those DDs wouldn't be bad... but that's my opinion.

 

For all we know, they could put in the Lorraine.

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Gloire certianly seems like a fitting pick. Tiers match her, she could with some effort be put into T5, but T6 is her likely spot (considering she is essentially a better armoured Nürnberg with a more practical position of armaments).

 

However... and this might seem rather inconsequential, WG has a history of using early premiums as a sort of testbed for special mechanics or special playstyles. Gremyashchy was the testbed for the heavy gunboat style (and was deemed too good for that), Tirpitz was a testbed for torpedoes on battleships and a whole range of other smaller differences (it obviously went really well). Kitakami was yet another one, which went pretty bad (despite people wanting her back, it is probably for the best that she has so far only been 'tested' a few times since her removal). Saipan's return was much the same, a test to see if it is possible to make carrier gameplay different. As far as I can remember, it was considered a success and more premium carriers will come in time.

 

With that in mind, I suspect it will rather be a destroyer. The French destroyers are, aside from the all forward guns on the 'modern' battleships, what differentiates the French ships from the others. So I suspect they will use this opportunity to test their vision of that difference. What that will be is somewhat of a ponder as at present the RU DDs fulfill a similar role and the Germans and Italians are obviously of a similar cut, and so I suspect that they see it as important to finetune what differences they can make between these rather similar styles. But that's just my thoughts.

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Wouldn't mind seeing a La fantastique class destroyer. (Fastest DDs of WW2). But the normal line should get one as well

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A fun ship would be the light cruiser Lamotte-Piquet.

Was in the Battle of Ko Chang that the Frensh won. So that is something.

It would be a nice Tier 5.

 

Displacement:
  • 7,249 tons (standard)
  • 9350 tons (full load)
Length: 181.30 m (594 ft 10 in) overall
Beam: 17.50 m (57 ft 5 in)
Draught: 6.14 m (20 ft 2 in), 6.30 m (20 ft 8 in) full load
Propulsion: 4-shaft Parsons single-reduction geared turbines; 8 Guyot boilers; 102,000 shp (76,000 kW)
Speed: 33 knots (61 km/h)
Range: 3,000 nautical miles (6,000 km) at 15 knots (28 km/h)
Complement: 27 officers, 551 sailors
Armament:
  • 8 × 155 mm (6.1 in) guns (4 × 2)
  • 4 × 75 mm (3 in) anti-aircraft guns (4 × 1)
  • 12 × 550 mm (22 in) torpedo tubes (4 × 3)
Armour:
Aircraft carried:

 

lamotte-picquet-a.jpg 

 

 

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A fun ship would be the light cruiser Lamotte-Piquet.

Was in the Battle of Ko Chang that the Frensh won. So that is something.

It would be a nice Tier 5.

 

Displacement:
  • 7,249 tons (standard)
  • 9350 tons (full load)
Length: 181.30 m (594 ft 10 in) overall
Beam: 17.50 m (57 ft 5 in)
Draught: 6.14 m (20 ft 2 in), 6.30 m (20 ft 8 in) full load
Propulsion: 4-shaft Parsons single-reduction geared turbines; 8 Guyot boilers; 102,000 shp (76,000 kW)
Speed: 33 knots (61 km/h)
Range: 3,000 nautical miles (6,000 km) at 15 knots (28 km/h)
Complement: 27 officers, 551 sailors
Armament:
  • 8 × 155 mm (6.1 in) guns (4 × 2)
  • 4 × 75 mm (3 in) anti-aircraft guns (4 × 1)
  • 12 × 550 mm (22 in) torpedo tubes (4 × 3)
Armour:
Aircraft carried:

 

lamotte-picquet-a.jpg 

 

 

 

I like this, would be nice to see a mid-tier cruiser.

 

Cruisers are my favourite :B

 

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A fun ship would be the light cruiser Lamotte-Piquet.

Was in the Battle of Ko Chang that the Frensh won. So that is something.

It would be a nice Tier 5.

 

Displacement:
  • 7,249 tons (standard)
  • 9350 tons (full load)
Length: 181.30 m (594 ft 10 in) overall
Beam: 17.50 m (57 ft 5 in)
Draught: 6.14 m (20 ft 2 in), 6.30 m (20 ft 8 in) full load
Propulsion: 4-shaft Parsons single-reduction geared turbines; 8 Guyot boilers; 102,000 shp (76,000 kW)
Speed: 33 knots (61 km/h)
Range: 3,000 nautical miles (6,000 km) at 15 knots (28 km/h)
Complement: 27 officers, 551 sailors
Armament:
  • 8 × 155 mm (6.1 in) guns (4 × 2)
  • 4 × 75 mm (3 in) anti-aircraft guns (4 × 1)
  • 12 × 550 mm (22 in) torpedo tubes (4 × 3)
Armour:
Aircraft carried:

 

lamotte-picquet-a.jpg 

 

 

 

Possible. Though she would be no more than T4 with those guns. A practical RoF of 3 rpm is simply too low. Even if massively buffed to 5 rpm it would still be rather weak. And with that sort of armour, we are talking Katori levels. It would be a risky ship to make premium, but in terms of tier placement she could possibly be made into a T5 by functionally ignoring the issues of ammunition supply and giving her the hoped for 6 rpm, and adding some thick bulkheads to act as actual armour.

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Gloire was mentioned somewhere along the line, and is an ideal ship for tier 6. So my guess is for her.

The rest of the class ( La Galissonniere) can't really hold their own at tier 6 anymore due to the very poor cruiser power creep happening at tier 5 and 6. The same goes for the previously solidly tier 6 cruisers like Leander, D'Aosta and Agano-Kai. 

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To be honest I dont know much about French war navy, but any new content is more than welcome! Cant wait, and most probably i will buy whatever the new French ship it is.

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I would've loved "Jean Bart (1911)" personally, but I like tier 2-6 gameplay, Jean Bart would fit at tier 3 or 4, depending on in-game adaptation.

It has a lot of secondaries which, given enough range, could make this ship a very good ship at close range (ie: give it warspite's secondary range with captain skill and a special module just for her or 3 equipment slots so she can buy module)


 

If not, I don't really care, really sad to learn it wont be Richelieu.

 

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So WG has planned to release a French premium ship for 2016. It would be the first French ship...

 

Where does this rumour come from? Because the link your provided does not mention a source.

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