Audio Warning for Planes

[HMS_BlackPud]

With so much going on in the game these days and forts coming into the game with the next update I would ask that an audio alarm be added when a plane has detected you. The level one captain skill of detection is not enough if your in a DD or CA  as it is quite often on most of a battle. How many of you have missed torp planes and been sunk as a consequence? I ask wargaming to seriously consider this request and await an official reply with earnest. Cheers   HMS-Australia

[Userext]

Not a bad idea. But it would be horrible for anything other than DD. Also how do you "miss" torp planes in any kind of ship? They can be seen kilometers away. Dont tunnel vision in this game you will get hurt a lot

[Damanta]

With so much going on in the game these days and forts coming into the game with the next update I would ask that an audio alarm be added when a plane has detected you. The level one captain skill of detection is not enough if your in a DD or CA  as it is quite often on most of a battle. How many of you have missed torp planes and been sunk as a consequence? I ask wargaming to seriously consider this request and await an official reply with earnest. Cheers   HMS-Australia

 

In a DD? Not as of yet.

In a BB or CA: once or twice when I was too occupied with not showing my broadside to an enemy BB or CA and forgot to keep an eye on the minimap.

[Procrastes]

Not a bad idea in itself. But I would say that the whole operation of multitasking and keeping tabs on what goes on is part of the challenge of the game. Too many automated alarms would remove part of that challenge (as well as overloading my poor brain with even more input, but that's another matter ).

[mtm78]

 

In a DD? Not as of yet.

In a BB or CA: once or twice when I was too occupied with not showing my broadside to an enemy BB or CA and forgot to keep an eye on the minimap.

 

Do you feel you 'deserved' to be sunk for not keeping track of the planes on the minimap?

 

@OP,

 

I think my answer will be the same as above. 

[HMS_BlackPud]

Ok so maybe not a DD but if your in the thick of battle and are also keeping an eye on a fort etc. your guns are rapid firing, you are maovering to miss an island and all you hear is the fatal sound of those torps, All you can say is bugga Im gone!!!     Imagine on a real warship with the multitudes of lookouts and the Captain wasnt warned of incoming aircraft the s....t really would hit the fan

[Syrchalis]

Yeah, if we buff CVs, fix their bugs, fix their interface and nerf AA you can have that.

 

WoWs is stupidly easy as it is, so some awareness should be rewarded.

[Damanta]

 

Do you feel you 'deserved' to be sunk for not keeping track of the planes on the minimap?

 

@OP,

 

I think my answer will be the same as above. 

 

Oh yeah, I deserved to be sunk in those cases, it was my fault for not keeping an eye on the minimap

[Userext]

Yeah, if we buff CVs, fix their bugs, fix their interface and nerf AA you can have that.

 

WoWs is stupidly easy as it is, so some awareness should be rewarded.

 

*Buff AA on DD and we have a deal! Seriously i just got out of a battle and words wouldnt be enough to show my saltiness

[Kann_Nix_Extreme]

Why should DDs be allowed to defend themselves against planes even better?

[Userext]

Why should DDs be allowed to defend themselves against planes even better?

 

because i cant shoot down your fighters even if they follow me full 20 mins? What can i do if my CV doesnt want to help and all my team cowards behind me while i have to cap in order to win? Smoke? Yeah that only has 120 secs of effect which isnt helping at all

[Procrastes]

 

because i cant shoot down your fighters even if they follow me full 20 mins? What can i do if my CV doesnt want to help and all my team cowards behind me while i have to cap in order to win? Smoke? Yeah that only has 120 secs of effect which isnt helping at all

 

You can drive up alongside an allied cruiser or at battleship that has good AA, and let them swat the planes for you. If you have to let go of a cap in order to do that, then that is just part of the game.

 

And basically, if a CV player decides to devote a full squadron to just keeping tabs on you for his team, and he's so good at it that you can't shake them off, then that is also part of the game. It has happened to me only once, and then it was good tactics from the CV player as I would otherwise have kept that whole part of his fleet lit up for my team. The only reason I did not compliment him after the battle was that back then, I didn't know about the compliment function. Mostly, though, it won't be worth it for the CV player to bind up a whole squadron in order to tail one single enemy destroyer - especially if there is also a CV on the enemy team.

 

I have thought about mounting the defensive AA consumable on my Lo Yang just to see if I can give the next CV player to try that trick a nasty surprise. But there are so few CVs on higher tiers now, it will probably be a wasted effort.

[Userext]

 

You can drive up alongside an allied cruiser or at battleship that has good AA, and let them swat the planes for you. If you have to let go of a cap in order to do that, then that is just part of the game.

 

And basically, if a CV player decides to devote a full squadron to just keeping tabs on you for his team, and he's so good at it that you can't shake them off, then that is also part of the game. It has happened to me only once, and then it was good tactics from the CV player as I would otherwise have kept that whole part of his fleet lit up for my team. The only reason I did not compliment him after the battle was that back then, I didn't know about the compliment function.

 

I have thought about mounting the defensive AA consumable on my Lo Yang just to see if I can give the next CV player to try that trick a nasty surprise. But there are so few CVs on higher tiers now, it will probably be a wasted effort.

 

As i said i was trying to cap while my team was cowarding behind me meaning i wasnt capable of turning back without getting blown out of the water. That fighter squadron up there is like black death. Once you are tagged you cant get rid off it. I m not blaming the CV captain here i m blaming the game here. If my team refuses to help me in any way i m doomed to die. What kind of system is this?

[Syrchalis]

 

As i said i was trying to cap while my team was cowarding behind me meaning i wasnt capable of turning back without getting blown out of the water. That fighter squadron up there is like black death. Once you are tagged you cant get rid off it. I m not blaming the CV captain here i m blaming the game here. If my team refuses to help me in any way i m doomed to die. What kind of system is this?

 

The CV isn't to blame. He wanted to win. The game isn't to blame. Everything has beyond stupid AA already. Only IJN and SN DDs don't (US DDs wreck planes and even have AA consumable). Your team is to blame for not wanting to win or not knowing how to do so. Move on, there will be smarter teams.

[Userext]

 

The CV isn't to blame. He wanted to win. The game isn't to blame. Everything has beyond stupid AA already. Only IJN and SN DDs don't (US DDs wreck planes and even have AA consumable). Your team is to blame for not wanting to win or not knowing how to do so. Move on, there will be smarter teams.

 

Funny thing is we won that battle because our DDs pushed up and capped. The game is to blame here. If my AA(which i was in sims) cant shoot down these planes even though they didnt leave me for half the game there is something wrong with this. You cant put the burden of badly balanced AA on other ships to my destroyer

[krazypenguin]

Ok so maybe not a DD but if your in the thick of battle and are also keeping an eye on a fort etc. your guns are rapid firing, you are maovering to miss an island and all you hear is the fatal sound of those torps, All you can say is bugga Im gone!!!     Imagine on a real warship with the multitudes of lookouts and the Captain wasnt warned of incoming aircraft the s....t really would hit the fan

 

Um...that's pretty much EXACTLY what happened to the Japanese carriers at Midway, plenty of lookouts and yet they all got focused on the US TBs with the result that 3 of their carriers got nailed by DBs.. 

 

Edit - I agree with the others, too much automation removes too much of the situational awareness that you need.  That said, if the different types of detection are considered different events by the client (which I assume they must be since they have different icons) then I don't see why a modder couldn't create a mod to play an audio alert at the same time as the detected by aircraft sysmbol pops up...

 

[Kann_Nix_Extreme]

Look at it from the carriers perspective. AA is really really strong at the moment and all you need to do to become invulnerable to planes is get within some 6 km of a friendly cruiser, since he has almost no chance to catch you there. That's not really hard to do and happens by default most of the time.

 

With this in mind: Dont you think demanding to be equipped with AA, that keeps planes off even when leaving the gigantic safe zone your team generates, is a little ... odd?

[Userext]

With this in mind: Dont you think demanding to be equipped with AA, that keeps planes off even when leaving the gigantic safe zone your team generates, is a little ... odd?

 

Do you really think DDs stay beside their CAs when tehy get caught by planes? If you do i pitty you

[Syrchalis]

What DDs would need is AA that ramps up after 30 seconds.

[Kann_Nix_Extreme]

 

Destroyers don't get caught at all, when sailing close to their cruisers.

 

No need to pitty me. I play Essex a lot and catching braindead DDs off guard is my favourite thing to do. BUT (!) If the guy is paying the minimum amount of attention he can easily force me to stay in his AA bubble, shooting down planes to the point I have to abort. Not to mention all the DDs that are equipped with defensive fire nowadays, becoming immune at the press of a button. Please tell me I'm wrong

 

[Userext]

Destroyers don't get caught at all, when sailing close to their cruisers.

 

No need to pitty me. I play Essex a lot and catching braindead DDs off guard is my favourite thing to do. BUT (!) If the guy is paying the minimum amount of attention he can easily force me to stay in his AA bubble, shooting down planes to the point I have to abort. Not to mention all the DDs that are equipped with defensive fire nowadays, becoming immune at the press of a button. Please tell me I'm wrong

 

You are wrong no one would give up speed boost for defensive fire. Those who sail close to their CA are useless. Seriously in which universe sims can do that?

[Syrchalis]

 

You are wrong no one would give up speed boost for defensive fire. Those who sail close to their CA are useless. Seriously in which universe sims can do that?

 

WTF I use Defenisve Fire on Fletcher every single game and CV rates on T9 are like... every 10 games at best.

[Kann_Nix_Extreme]

You are wrong no one would give up speed boost for defensive fire. 

 

Bravo! Case closed

[Userext]

 

WTF I use Defenisve Fire on Fletcher every single game and CV rates on T9 are like... every 10 games at best.

 

Fletcher sure. Try that on fubuki or kagero. 35 knot i remind ya there are CAs faster than these ships. 

[Kann_Nix_Extreme]

Defensive fire on Fubuki? :,D Case closed, locked and thrown out the window!