the_Faither Players 27 posts 7,240 battles Report post #1 Posted June 25, 2016 Any of you guys note how much this WoW costs. I only spend occasionally but over 9 months it must be about £30 spent on game. Soooooo,,,,,,,,I sink 1, maybe 2 enemy ships, do over 40,000 damage in a 19,400pt Gearing and on the winning team but now I seem to lose credits unless I finish almost undamaged. It's ridiculous how much I lose each game. I think WoW are just greedy now. I swear when I run out of credits I will be ditching this game. What do you guys think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] WarburtonLee Players 784 posts 11,585 battles Report post #2 Posted June 25, 2016 I dont think about credits, since i have the habit of paying for the games i like Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Mayv Players 1,952 posts 7,021 battles Report post #3 Posted June 25, 2016 First please don't use that font again. Second 40k damage isn't that good for a Gearing, unless that is done exclusively to enemy DDs. And your average damage across the board is quite bad. Repair and resupply costs are high at the top tiers. You aren't doing well enough to cover these costs, even with premium. Your options. -Get better. -Get premium if you don't already. -Grind credits with premium/mid tier ships. -Watch your credits disappear. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_Faither Players 27 posts 7,240 battles Report post #4 Posted June 25, 2016 I would like the Captains skills to go beyond 18pts too but thats a dead end. I just feel that there's nothing left to play for once you upgrade.. You pay your money and after a time you will run out. you need 10,000,000 to get your next skill point. Impossible. I do like this game but it's just working out to expensive for me. Sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_Faither Players 27 posts 7,240 battles Report post #5 Posted June 25, 2016 First please don't use that font again. Second 40k damage isn't that good for a Gearing, unless that is done exclusively to enemy DDs. And your average damage across the board is quite bad. Repair and resupply costs are high at the top tiers. You aren't doing well enough to cover these costs, even with premium. Your options. -Get better. -Get premium if you don't already. -Grind credits with premium/mid tier ships. -Watch your credits disappear. What do you mean, 'don't use that font again?' Very ignorant opening I would say. I get more than 40,000 regularly but I worked my way up from low tier, that's why my average is showing low. I didn't buy the best. I earned it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #6 Posted June 25, 2016 That does not look very well: the_Faither Mostly plays destroyers, especially high-tier Deals a below average amount of damage Key vehicle - Fletcher Icon Name Tier ▼ Type Nation Battles WR Dmg XP K/D Sh☠ Pl☠ Srv MBH TH WTR Gearing 10 DD USA 99 39.39% 27,499 946 0.9 0.5 1.9 51% 18% 6% 675 Fletcher 9 DD USA 578 47.06% 24,553 936 1.4 0.5 3.1 60% 17% 5% 800 Benson 8 DD USA 369 46.34% 17,503 821 1.2 0.5 0.4 57% 24% 4% 706 You need better results to make money. And it helps to play lower tier ships from time to time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #7 Posted June 25, 2016 What do you mean, 'don't use that font again?' Very ignorant opening I would say. his opening was perfectly valid. using weird fonts makes people have trouble reading. I get more than 40,000 regularly but I worked my way up from low tier, that's why my average is showing low. I didn't buy the best. I earned it! i will be blunt so dont get your feelings hurt. your average damage in gearing is 27.5k, your average in fletcher is 24.5k. overall your statistics are bad and that is what he wanted to say. event though you "earned" your ship, truth be told you suck in it. that is one of the reasons why you will always lose credits in it. you have 2 options. either learn to play, or grind mid tiers for credits where repair costs are non existent. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anzio_Anzai Players 50 posts 1 battles Report post #8 Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) Party Hard Hey Faither you were in my team today. I didn't notice until now. Hurray. XD edit2 I don't usually play Shimakaze but when I do this happen. And that's why I don't usually play Shimakaze... Edited June 25, 2016 by Anzio_Anchovy365 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlwaysBadLuckWithTeams Weekend Tester 1,469 posts 37,910 battles Report post #9 Posted June 25, 2016 So what exactly are you talking about ? In game silver ? Or real life money ? If you are complaining about premium time, well, you might as well complain about the subscription fee for World of Warcraft. But unlike that MMORPG, you do not have pay here in order to play. This month, there is a 25% discount on repair cost for ships tier 8 and better. You can add a -10% repair cost signal. And there are three flags winnable in ranked that reduce repair cost up to 20%. So add all this together, and it is very hard not to make any profit, even in high tiers. P.S.: Yes, that font hurts our eyes. I have also found old replays with him. Too bad I can't have a closer look due to older version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FO] Todger_Fairmile Players 494 posts 17,582 battles Report post #10 Posted June 25, 2016 Any of you guys note how much this WoW costs. I only spend occasionally but over 9 months it must be about £30 spent on game. Soooooo,,,,,,,,I sink 1, maybe 2 enemy ships, do over 40,000 damage in a 19,400pt Gearing and on the winning team but now I seem to lose credits unless I finish almost undamaged. It's ridiculous how much I lose each game. I think WoW are just greedy now. I swear when I run out of credits I will be ditching this game. What do you guys think? Tiers 9 and 10 are credit pits, as (to a much lesser extent) are 7 and 8. If you can't afford to loose credits, stick to 6 and under. It's what I mostly do. Of course I play PVE so that may be the reason for my experience with 7. Lately WG has been giving a repair discount to higher level ships (on some servers, not sure if EU is one). An alternative is to join public test. You get a butt load of credits and gold, and can try out the higher levels without it costing you anything. You could use it to sharpen your skills for the real game. You also get to try out the latest developments in the game and help WG make the game better. Unfortunately they don't include premium ships in the test. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #11 Posted June 26, 2016 (edited) The game is "rigged" to make experienced people play lower tiers too. Basically, it's VERY hard to NOT lose credits playing tier 10. With premium time it gets better (but still isn't guaranteed). This way people who want to play their T X ships need to either pay real money OR play mixed tiers to earn their T X games. Not being able to make T X battles profitable doesn't really mean there's something wrong with either you or with the game - it's the design. Highest tiers just aren't designed to earn credits We can like it or not but that's the way it works. Edited June 26, 2016 by eliastion 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cro_pwr Players 2,735 posts 10,310 battles Report post #12 Posted June 26, 2016 The game is "rigged" to make experienced people play lower tiers too. Basically, it's VERY hard to NOT lose credits playing tier 10. With premium time it gets better (but still isn't guaranteed). This way people who want to play their T X ships need to either pay real money OR play mixed tiers to earn their T X games. Not being able to make T X battles profitable doesn't really mean there's something wrong with either you or with the game - it's the design. Highest tiers just aren't designed to earn credits We can like it or not but that's the way it works. If you did good in that game you wont loose credits, if you did 20k damage in gearing... well, hope you wont be in my team.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
albinbino Players 662 posts 11,080 battles Report post #13 Posted June 26, 2016 It is easy, with only few games in tier 5 and 6, it it possible to earn enough credits to support about 6 games for my Zao, for Izumo even more games. I have no premium, for farming i use arp ships and kamikaze. Russian DDs are also good for credits because their credit income was buffed in recent patches, now they can earn nice. Expensive economy in tier 9 and 10 is proper and it saves the game, like who would ever play kongo when you can play Yamato and so forth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_Faither Players 27 posts 7,240 battles Report post #14 Posted June 26, 2016 That does not look very well: the_Faither Mostly plays destroyers, especially high-tier Deals a below average amount of damage Key vehicle - Fletcher Icon Name Tier ▼ Type Nation Battles WR Dmg XP K/D Sh☠ Pl☠ Srv MBH TH WTR Gearing 10 DD USA 99 39.39% 27,499 946 0.9 0.5 1.9 51% 18% 6% 675 Fletcher 9 DD USA 578 47.06% 24,553 936 1.4 0.5 3.1 60% 17% 5% 800 Benson 8 DD USA 369 46.34% 17,503 821 1.2 0.5 0.4 57% 24% 4% 706 You need better results to make money. And it helps to play lower tier ships from time to time. Yes, I have a tier 1 Erie which I play to subsidise my Gearing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CBS] Allied_Winter Players 6,242 posts 10,755 battles Report post #15 Posted June 26, 2016 A T1 ship isn't the best to farm credits. If you like US DDs maybe get a Nicholas or Farragut to farm credits. Maybe take a look at this chart to understand better where your credits gone missing. Greetings 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_Faither Players 27 posts 7,240 battles Report post #16 Posted June 26, 2016 his opening was perfectly valid. using weird fonts makes people have trouble reading. i will be blunt so dont get your feelings hurt. your average damage in gearing is 27.5k, your average in fletcher is 24.5k. overall your statistics are bad and that is what he wanted to say. event though you "earned" your ship, truth be told you suck in it. that is one of the reasons why you will always lose credits in it. you have 2 options. either learn to play, or grind mid tiers for credits where repair costs are non existent. The font is there in the option, I didn't make it!. If it was such a problem then WoW should remove it! I only have a Gearing, you can't go round blazing in a Gearing or you get picked off very easily. I would like you to show me your stat's re 27k being below average? I do take your point re' feelings. Not a problem that way. I just feel I can't progress any more because the ship is at its limit so continuing to play will inevitibly cost more money. Maybe I'm just used to paying for a game and expecting too much. I like the game but I think people like myself will stop playing when there is no incentive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_Faither Players 27 posts 7,240 battles Report post #17 Posted June 26, 2016 A T1 ship isn't the best to farm credits. If you like US DDs maybe get a Nicholas or Farragut to farm credits. Maybe take a look at this chart to understand better where your credits gone missing. Greetings Thanks for the positive input.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CBS] Allied_Winter Players 6,242 posts 10,755 battles Report post #18 Posted June 26, 2016 The font is there in the option, I didn't make it!. If it was such a problem then WoW should remove it! I only have a Gearing, you can't go round blazing in a Gearing or you get picked off very easily. I would like you to show me your stat's re 27k being below average? I do take your point re' feelings. Not a problem that way. I just feel I can't progress any more because the ship is at its limit so continuing to play will inevitibly cost more money. Maybe I'm just used to paying for a game and expecting too much. I like the game but I think people like myself will stop playing when there is no incentive. It comes all down to what you expect from this game. But the game design (in its current state) is, that you can't play T10 consecutivly AND gain large amounts of credits at the same time. WG stated often enough, that if they would increase the credit gain on high-tier ships (or lower their repair costs too much), they fear that almost nobody would play the mid-tiers. That's why they gone for high repair bills in T10 ships. It's the same in WoT. Greetings 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #19 Posted June 26, 2016 I just feel I can't progress any more because the ship is at its limit so continuing to play will inevitibly cost more money. Maybe I'm just used to paying for a game and expecting too much. I like the game but I think people like myself will stop playing when there is no incentive. You only enjoy tier 10 games? If not, I'd second the suggestion to play Nicholas or perhaps Clemson because it's a fun good game + to earn some credits at the same time. A game in the Gearing now and then at some loss of credits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_Faither Players 27 posts 7,240 battles Report post #20 Posted June 26, 2016 It comes all down to what you expect from this game. But the game design (in its current state) is, that you can't play T10 consecutivly AND gain large amounts of credits at the same time. WG stated often enough, that if they would increase the credit gain on high-tier ships (or lower their repair costs too much), they fear that almost nobody would play the mid-tiers. That's why they gone for high repair bills in T10 ships. It's the same in WoT. Greetings Thanks for explaining. Maybe I need to change my view on the game. I still think the Captains skills should go beyond 18, maybe after each 300,000 another 1 skill point would be incentive enough. As it is, I will probably hang up my binoculars for the Summer! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CBS] Allied_Winter Players 6,242 posts 10,755 battles Report post #21 Posted June 26, 2016 Thanks for explaining. Maybe I need to change my view on the game. I still think the Captains skills should go beyond 18, maybe after each 300,000 another 1 skill point would be incentive enough. As it is, I will probably hang up my binoculars for the Summer! There are some rumors that the captains skills are going to be reworked on a larger scale. But yeah, if your goal is to max out any captain, than waiting a bit, seems to be the best option. Greetings 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Mayv Players 1,952 posts 7,021 battles Report post #22 Posted June 26, 2016 I only have a Gearing, you can't go round blazing in a Gearing or you get picked off very easily. I would like you to show me your stat's re 27k being below average? The EU server average damage for the Gearing is 47k, according to warships.today. I have 75k average damage in the Gearing and make a decent credit profit in most of my games. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] triumphgt6 Players 1,870 posts 22,637 battles Report post #23 Posted June 26, 2016 Stopped playing tier 9 - the Baltimore was soul destroying! So I play lower teirs and have fun - and also have 100 Million credits waiting for the RN!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_Faither Players 27 posts 7,240 battles Report post #24 Posted June 26, 2016 The EU server average damage for the Gearing is 47k, according to warships.today. I have 75k average damage in the Gearing and make a decent credit profit in most of my games. That's about right for me, My average is rising so maybe just need to fire less torps and shells. I have had the odd 70k + game. I've also been 'splattered' the odd game too. Captains skills is a way of incentivising the game otherwise it becomes a bit drab. Thanks for your comments though, It does help me understand the game better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_Faither Players 27 posts 7,240 battles Report post #25 Posted June 26, 2016 Stopped playing tier 9 - the Baltimore was soul destroying! So I play lower teirs and have fun - and also have 100 Million credits waiting for the RN!! Nice GT6, I had one of those, a Mark4 which I think was the last of them. Sold it after the front trunnion popped at 80mph, not fun. Anyway, thanks for your input. Appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites