[RSC] SkybuckFlying Players 1,246 posts 31,660 battles Report post #1 Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) I just played a game where I had a very strong feeling that we had a traitor in the game. Might have been the same guy that sucked in the previous game, could also have been somebody else. Enemy team knew exactly where my CV was going, my planes were going and enemy ships were going, it was very obvious. This might happen at night when the player base is very low, about 5000 to 2000 people. I suspect a fake account of rank level 15 is used to try and implement a traitor in the enemy team, since level 15 cannot loose it's rank and is paired with levels 15 to level 11, many ranks seem to be affected by this possibly traitor. *** Additional Information ***: I am now convinced that this is indeed true: I just inspected the stats for the spy player and it's win rate for ranked is 0%. It's random battle win rate is 100%. So one has to look carefull at only the ranked battle win rate. First game: The first game I played with that specific player I noticed he didn't protect the battleship, I pointed this bluntly out to the entire team, he didn't react, didn't change course nothing. Even more weird, enemy planes seemed to back off as soon as I told this too our team, as if spy said: "don't attack now it's too obvious he on too me" Very suspicious. Later he also did not defend my carrier that was under attack from a kiev. The end result was quite amazing: the entire team get whiped out in last then 3 minutes or so. Second game: This is when I completely noticed CV immediatly located my CV with his saipan torpedo bombers. I also noticed his team immediatly going towards his carrier since my planes where enroute. This is the game that convinced me that this is real. I pointed this out to the team and the guy I suspected of being a spy. (Sucks how the MM teams me up with losers from previous game). Now he started defending my carrier as to conceil his true intentions, it did not convince me at all, I am on to him for sure, the stats for that specific player basically proof it too or he sucks real bad. His current ranked win rate is below 25% ?! *** Further information ***: I looked at scoreboard, no obvious connection between suspected spy and enemy team, players were different. This still leaves the possibility of a "gang" of players, trying to gang up like this. Or this player just sucks bad lol. I didn't really "command" the team as I did in previous games... getting tired so... perhaps it's time to work on benson/shots for arp harugana... For now take this thread with a grain of salt, will have to find harder/further evidence to connect the dots ! =D *** Recommendations ***: Recommendation could be to avoid placing level 15 ranks with higher ranks like level 14, 13, 12, 11, 10 and so forth. This should prevent these "fake accounts" from functioning as spies/traitors on the other team ! Edited June 20, 2016 by SkybuckFlying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Verdius Beta Tester 1,989 posts 4,247 battles Report post #2 Posted June 20, 2016 I just played a game where I had a very strong feeling that we had a traitor in the game. Strong scientific method in place, this bodes well... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RSC] SkybuckFlying Players 1,246 posts 31,660 battles Report post #3 Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) Strong scientific method in place, this bodes well... Yes that's the interesting part with 3000+ games under my belt I notice things real fast when it's out of the ordinary, or this is how rank level 11+ is played ! ;) Edited June 20, 2016 by SkybuckFlying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Domin1c Players 232 posts 13,295 battles Report post #4 Posted June 20, 2016 Yes that's the interesting part with 3000+ games under my belt I notice things real fast when it's out of the ordinary, or this is how rank level 11+ is played ! ;) You couldn't make salt from saltwater bud. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LetsRockAndRoll Players 720 posts 9,732 battles Report post #5 Posted June 20, 2016 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerPurr Beta Tester 722 posts 16,781 battles Report post #6 Posted June 20, 2016 Well, now that there's an actual ship for a reward (albeit when playing ranked until you've gone insane) I wouldn't be surprised if some people would indeed try the odd 't-22sr rampage' trick. It's perfectly possible so it will probably happen somewhere. Problem is, with all these innuendos your not going to make a dent for a impression. I suppose a replay just happened not to get recorded this single one time? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Verdius Beta Tester 1,989 posts 4,247 battles Report post #7 Posted June 20, 2016 Yes that's the interesting part with 3000+ games under my belt I notice things real fast when it's out of the ordinary, or this is how rank level 11+ is played ! ;) What I notice is that even with 1000 hours in a game you still can be completely clueless about the basics of it and resort to calling people cheats and hackers with no substantial evidence. It shows that even if you fail hard you can reach anything through dumb luck. It would almost be inspiring if you were able or even willing to ever learn and get better instead of spewing so much nonsense onto the forums that it completely eroded any chance of you ever being taking seriously. *** Additional Information ***: I am now convinced that this is indeed true: I just inspected the stats for the spy player and it's win rate for ranked is 0%. It's random battle win rate is 100%. So one has to look carefull at only the ranked battle win rate. How does he get into your rank 15 match with no wins? There are no players with 100% winrate in random with enough battles played to unlock above tier 2. First game: The first game I played with that specific player I noticed he didn't protect the battleship, I pointed this bluntly out to the entire team, he didn't react, didn't change course nothing. Even more weird, enemy planes seemed to back off as soon as I told this too our team, as if spy said: "don't attack now it's too obvious he on too me" Very suspicious. More like very paranoid. Second game: This is when I completely noticed CV immediatly located my CV with his saipan torpedo bombers. Probably because ranked is the most formulaic mode in the entire game. Now he started defending my carrier as to conceil his true intentions, it did not convince me at all, I am on to him for sure, the stats for that specific player basically proof it too or he sucks real bad. The paranoia thickens. His current ranked win rate is below 25% ?! You just said 0% *** Further information ***: I looked at scoreboard, no obvious connection between suspected spy and enemy team, players were different. This still leaves the possibility of a "gang" of players, trying to gang up like this. Paranoia at its finest. For now take this thread with a grain of salt, will have to find harder/further evidence to connect the dots ! =D How about any actual (non anecdotal) evidence? This should prevent these "fake accounts" from functioning as spies/traitors on the other team ! Faking accounts? With the amount of time it takes to get to the relevant tiers, having the ships that you need and actually getting to rank 15 and to then cross your fingers that you get into the same game, let alone on the right team and then hope that your team can actually win, which would still not be a certainty, I'd actually be impressed at the amount of work someone would be willing to do to be lazy and not improve. To break it down: Arrogance [✓] Lack of self reflection [✓] Paranoia [✓] No hard evidence, just gut feeling [✓] Solution that causes more problems than it would fix [✓] SkybuckFlying [✓] 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] OldGrandad Supertester 3,404 posts 35,711 battles Report post #8 Posted June 20, 2016 To save a wall of mis-information, why not post a replay for others to make a more balanced opinion rather than your fanciful ramblings. Ah, you require an audience........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waxx25 Players 1,296 posts 11,488 battles Report post #9 Posted June 20, 2016 Skybuck......i get the feeling you are very young in real life so i will be nice. WG has introduced a feature to ranked that if you are a good player at heart and play really really good, you dont lose a star when on losing team. Unfortunately it doesnt apply to you as we all know how "good" of a player you are . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABIT] Tungstonid Beta Tester 1,568 posts Report post #10 Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) You should play Town of Salem. you would make a great Jester... and that not just because of the name of the role. Edited June 20, 2016 by Tungstonid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,658 battles Report post #11 Posted June 20, 2016 Yes, if we consider the AFKs as traitors. Because the teams are smaller, having an AFK is decisive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SQEEK] Dangerhamster [SQEEK] Weekend Tester 419 posts Report post #12 Posted June 20, 2016 Ok, now he's definitely channeling SirEric. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger_Happy_Dad Beta Tester 6,753 posts 7,907 battles Report post #13 Posted June 20, 2016 The end result was quite amazing: the entire team get whiped out in last then 3 minutes or so. 3 minutes to whipe out your entire team? lol, nice story, got a replay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #14 Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) Skybuck......i get the feeling you are very young in real life so i will be nice. Wrong waxx, google him, at least 12 years of skybuckflying rubbish all over the internet. I must admit though, skybuck has outdone himself this time Edited June 20, 2016 by bushwacker001 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #15 Posted June 20, 2016 Forum vulnerable to SbF's spam. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RSC] SkybuckFlying Players 1,246 posts 31,660 battles Report post #16 Posted June 20, 2016 I have the replay stored, don't worry about that. But for now I am too scared to post it. All you will see is a team losing real fast, and a player playing really bad. If I post the evidence now, the players might start hiding, or stop with it. So first I must collect more data/evidence ! ;) =D Also WG can do it's own spying on people ! ;) =D I am also not yet fully convinced that this is real, it were just 2 games where I noticed it, only today I reached rank level 11, so it could be that those players at those ranks just play differently. 2 replays proves nothing statistically, so must collect more replays ! Just let this thread be a warning and keep your eyes open ! ;) =D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerPurr Beta Tester 722 posts 16,781 battles Report post #17 Posted June 20, 2016 Ok please collect more replays. Word has it, that for claims like this to be taken seriously by WG, you must collect at least a sample of 1500 replays so best get to it. Be as vigilant as possible during your battles. Remember, you are our eyes on the seas now so monitor things to perfection. We'll be awaiting your findings over here. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agantas Players 1,059 posts 7,793 battles Report post #18 Posted June 20, 2016 How exactly did this spy communicate the information to the enemy team? The opponents are random, you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackSamBellamy Alpha Tester 839 posts 21,380 battles Report post #19 Posted June 20, 2016 Look! Another conspiracy theory! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerPurr Beta Tester 722 posts 16,781 battles Report post #20 Posted June 20, 2016 I have to admit it does sound kinda exciting, being a spy on the enemy team. I'd love to give that a go sometime. Maybe a new gamemode? Could have potential. Nobody trusting eachother, all ready to torpedo the ship sailing next to you..wow! Or did I just describe a typical random battle? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ROE] ButterflyHunter2020 Beta Tester 43 posts 12,549 battles Report post #21 Posted June 20, 2016 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Kenliero Players 2,478 posts 11,195 battles Report post #22 Posted June 20, 2016 It's not spies. It's them Klingons again! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CELTA] Defcon13 Weekend Tester 220 posts 21,271 battles Report post #23 Posted June 20, 2016 It's not spies. It's them Klingons again! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,658 battles Report post #24 Posted June 20, 2016 Oh, come on, this forum would be boring without him. I m his fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KOKOS] MaxxyNL [KOKOS] Beta Tester, Players 3,418 posts 11,878 battles Report post #25 Posted June 20, 2016 And another SkyBuckFlying fail topic. When does it stop? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites