[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #1 Posted June 19, 2016 Fellow sailors, the first German Battleships have been leaked through a chinese Website: http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=9471962&_ff=441 We can see: - KÖNIG ALBERT (last of the 5 Kaisers) on Tier 3 with 10.8km main artillery range (remember Kawachi...?) - potential premium? - KAISER with HORSESHIT fantasy upgrades that look like sh**** Even though I know this is preliminary and only a snapshot I am hugely disappointed. Why is it so difficult to implement these ships in a state as they where in 1919? Nerf König Albert to death to shoehorn into 3 and making Kaiser ugly as hell with stupid funnel caps, huge Bridge, new bow section misfit and 1930s antennas and rangefinders? I am really sad about the way WG is apparently taking here! I enjoy the game a lot but this is spoiling a lot for me. In my opinion there is absolutely NO need for this paper-sh*** up to Tier 6 or above. WG please go back to the drawing board and redo this line - even if it takes more time. Is it just me? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FTR] NemesisActual Players 120 posts 4,209 battles Report post #2 Posted June 19, 2016 They'll need fantasy upgrades in order to have any meaningful AA. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #3 Posted June 19, 2016 They'll need fantasy upgrades in order to have any meaningful AA. But not a new hull and superstructure. Slapping some Auto cannons on it would alreday do it and not ruin the appearance! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSSHI] Kazomir Players 1,566 posts Report post #4 Posted June 19, 2016 The historical hull is also represented. So i dont mind some alt history what-ifs 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #5 Posted June 19, 2016 The historical hull is also represented. So i dont mind some alt history what-ifs But it can't ne used because it is not competitive similar to all other ships Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSSHI] Kazomir Players 1,566 posts Report post #6 Posted June 19, 2016 But it can't ne used because it is not competitive similar to all other ships Well thats why they came up with fictional ''what if it was modernised'' upgrades. A 1918 era ship going against post war dreadnaughts is silly. Also, can i get pics? Cant find em. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FTR] zFireWyvern Modder, Alpha Tester 1,879 posts 1,162 battles Report post #7 Posted June 19, 2016 But it can't ne used because it is not competitive similar to all other ships I'm sure there's no bias at all in this thread /s 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Comrad_StaIin Beta Tester 4,594 posts 20,080 battles Report post #8 Posted June 19, 2016 Well thats why they came up with fictional ''what if it was modernised'' upgrades. A 1918 era ship going against post war dreadnaughts is silly. Also, can i get pics? Cant find em. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OFCV] CommissionerJan Alpha Tester 264 posts 15,054 battles Report post #9 Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) What kind of 'fantasy upgrades that look like crap'? Are there pictures of the actual 3d models somewhere? Edit: Oh, you mean that little pic? Looks like a reasonable representation, when you compare it with the RN and USN recognition drawing and the aerial photograph on wikipedia, both from 1918. Well, minus the caps on the smokestacks and the changed mainmast and antenna arrangement. Edited June 19, 2016 by CommissionerJan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #10 Posted June 19, 2016 I'm sure there's no bias at all in this thread /s Why? I have an opinion and the poll asks how other players feel about it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mucker Players 842 posts 8,403 battles Report post #11 Posted June 19, 2016 Well, early RN BBs will most likely get fantasy upgrades too. I wonder how RN fans think about it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #12 Posted June 19, 2016 What kind of 'fantasy upgrades that look like crap'? Are there pictures of the actual 3d models somewhere? Edit: Oh, you mean that little pic? Looks like a reasonable representation, when you compare it with the RN and USN recognition drawing and the aerial photograph on wikipedia, both from 1918. Well, minus the caps on the smokestacks and the changed mainmast and antenna arrangement. Only the pics from the Chinese homepage that Kotkiller posted so far but they are scheduled for 5.8 for supertesters so we will see some actual 3d models pretty soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martinborgen Players 144 posts 4,554 battles Report post #13 Posted June 19, 2016 I can't load these chinese links? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
byronicasian Players 391 posts Report post #14 Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) I honestly think the Chinese cocked up the tiering info. They're both Kaiser class ships (one of which slated for T4). Wouldn't King Albert fit the "T4 Ger prem "WG was promising? Edited June 19, 2016 by byronicasian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[3X] Yoshi_EU Players 241 posts 10,459 battles Report post #15 Posted June 19, 2016 https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2016/06/18/wows-leak-tier-vii-german-battleship-scharnhorst-stats%E2%80%8F/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #16 Posted June 19, 2016 I honestly think the Chinese cocked up the tiering. They're both Kaiser class ships (one of which slated for T4). Wouldn't King Albert fit the "T4 Ger prem "WG was promising? Could be but also the amor values a off by 90mm so not sure what is going on. But I hate this fantasy upgrade for KAISER. KOENIG will probably be the same story. That sucks big time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Trainspite Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster 1,920 posts 4,621 battles Report post #17 Posted June 19, 2016 I did not really think Kaiser would need a drastic refit like that. Konig & Bayern maybe, but I expected Kaiser to be left alone for the most part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
byronicasian Players 391 posts Report post #18 Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) I presume some modeler decided, hey we went all out with Myogi right, and then Yolo'd all over the Kaiser. Although I must admit, it doesn't look half bad. Edited June 19, 2016 by byronicasian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #19 Posted June 19, 2016 I presume some modeler decided, hey we went all out with Myogi right, and then Yolo'd all over the Kaiser. Although I must admit, it doesn't look half bad. A lot of the players are interested in the history of these ships even if it is an arcade game. If I want science fiction I can watch Star Wars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #20 Posted June 19, 2016 Ah, the grand historical accuracy present in such storied ships as the Myougi, famously upgraded with a pagoda mast in 1936 and sunk during the Ninth Battle of Guadalcanal. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
byronicasian Players 391 posts Report post #21 Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) And playing the stock hull gives you that? Hell maybe even the B hull if there are 3 in total. I mean, how is letting a WW1 fit dreadnought sail with/facing off against refitted BBs not just as immersion breaking. It's as ridiculous of a sight as a cage mast Colorado sailing alongside the NC. We'll probably see similar upgrades on Royal Navy BBs also. Iron Duke, Tiger, and Lion will probably all get a fictional upgrade modeled after what the Renowns got. Edited June 19, 2016 by byronicasian 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #22 Posted June 19, 2016 Ah, the grand historical accuracy present in such storied ships as the Myougi, famously upgraded with a pagoda mast in 1936 and sunk during the Ninth Battle of Guadalcanal. Er... no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
byronicasian Players 391 posts Report post #23 Posted June 19, 2016 :whoosh: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #24 Posted June 19, 2016 Er... no Dude fix your sarcasm detector. I understand that you like the historical models, but giving those ships a hypothetical 20s or 30s upgrade is consistent with the other ships in this game. Myougi is presented with a Pagoda mast that was never in the original design. Upgraded Myougi is not even a paper ship, it's a paper ship with a hypothetical 1930s upgrade. I can give you more examples if you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSSHI] Kazomir Players 1,566 posts Report post #25 Posted June 19, 2016 There is this beaughtyfull thing called ''suspension of disbelief'' This game requires a lot of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
