MungaH Alpha Tester 127 posts 4,481 battles Report post #701 Posted August 23, 2016 Duely hope the Italian Navy gets added to the game next! Potentially paired with the French :-) Love those Italian designs! Btw: great proposals Your favorable opinion, and the opinion of the whole community, is very needed in order to see the Italian ships sooner or later. Just keep this thread up ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Devi1 Weekend Tester 103 posts 9,959 battles Report post #702 Posted August 23, 2016 Didn't know where to post it: There are plans to have a French tech tree at some point. Finding good mid tier ships could be a problem though. Wargaming just recently started looking into the Regia Marina of the Italian Navy. They do not have a connection to a museum or an easy way to get blueprints though. A premium is certainly possible but it is unclear at this point if they could fill a tech tree. Wargaming will not invent new ships. Source: http://shipcomrade.com/news/169/gamescom-qa-with-jacek-pudlik.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon93 Sailing Hamster 3,124 posts 1,275 battles Report post #703 Posted August 23, 2016 Didn't know where to post it: Source: Uhm I guess I really have to go to La Spezia and ask about the archive, nice catch though! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Devi1 Weekend Tester 103 posts 9,959 battles Report post #704 Posted August 23, 2016 Uhm I guess I really have to go to La Spezia and ask about the archive, nice catch though! Sorry to bother you, but are there news about the BB t7 "proto-Littorio" and t10? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon93 Sailing Hamster 3,124 posts 1,275 battles Report post #705 Posted August 23, 2016 Sorry to bother you, but are there news about the BB t7 "proto-Littorio" and t10? Gor the tier VII the model is at the museum of La Spezia, it's one of the reasons why I want to go there again. For the tier X not yet but I haven't sent any emails to my contact as of late. I don't know when I'll go to La Soezia again but regarding he tier X I'll poke my guy for new pieces of info(assuming he found something more). Anyway it's not a problem, you can ask every question you like and I'll try to answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KUMA] EkV92 Players 4 posts 2,871 battles Report post #706 Posted August 23, 2016 Your favorable opinion, and the opinion of the whole community, is very needed in order to see the Italian ships sooner or later. Just keep this thread up ! Sorry if I'm cynical, but if WG behaves like it did in WoT, Regia Marina will never be implemented, regardless of someone's opinion in the forums. Didn't know where to post it: There are plans to have a French tech tree at some point. Finding good mid tier ships could be a problem though. Wargaming just recently started looking into the Regia Marina of the Italian Navy. They do not have a connection to a museum or an easy way to get blueprints though. A premium is certainly possible but it is unclear at this point if they could fill a tech tree. Wargaming will not invent new ships. Deamon here showed with his excellent work how it's very possible to fill a tree. Too bad WG hardly knows it. Regarding the last statement, I'm sorry, but I don't trust them anymore: they showed in multiple occasions in WoT how flexible they are with such standpoints, especially when it comes to the implementation of *any* tech tree that is not italian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Historynerd Beta Tester 4,249 posts 848 battles Report post #707 Posted August 24, 2016 Sorry if I'm cynical, but if WG behaves like it did in WoT, Regia Marina will never be implemented, regardless of someone's opinion in the forums. While WG's behaviour towards the Italian tree in WoT is more than questionable, the situation in WoWs is radically different. The Regia Marina will arrive. It might take some time, but it will arrive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon93 Sailing Hamster 3,124 posts 1,275 battles Report post #708 Posted August 24, 2016 Sorry if I'm cynical, but if WG behaves like it did in WoT, Regia Marina will never be implemented, regardless of someone's opinion in the forums. Deamon here showed with his excellent work how it's very possible to fill a tree. Too bad WG hardly knows it. Regarding the last statement, I'm sorry, but I don't trust them anymore: they showed in multiple occasions in WoT how flexible they are with such standpoints, especially when it comes to the implementation of *any* tech tree that is not italian. Between tanks and ships the latter are more likely to show up. Then again this is just an assumption based on my knowledge which, as far as tanks are concerned, is limited. While WG's behaviour towards the Italian tree in WoT is more than questionable, the situation in WoWs is radically different. The Regia Marina will arrive. It might take some time, but it will arrive. Let's hope so. In any case a lot will depend on the archives and, sooner or later, I'll have to try and ask for them(I doubt they would answer me but doesn't cost anything). Considering I have to go to La Spezia again I just have to make sure not to forget it . Speaking of which if anyone is around there wouldn't be bad to organize something since, regardless of the archives, the place is nice and worth visiting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KUMA] EkV92 Players 4 posts 2,871 battles Report post #709 Posted August 24, 2016 Speaking of which if anyone is around there wouldn't be bad to organize something since, regardless of the archives, the place is nice and worth visiting. Some pages back in this thread I've read that there are two archives that hold the informations needed for the RM tree, one in LaSpezia, one in Venice. Since I live next to Venice we might organize something if you'd ever gonna come here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon93 Sailing Hamster 3,124 posts 1,275 battles Report post #710 Posted August 24, 2016 Some pages back in this thread I've read that there are two archives that hold the informations needed for the RM tree, one in LaSpezia, one in Venice. Since I live next to Venice we might organize something if you'd ever gonna come here. Those are the two museums. I'm sure La Spezia has the archive while I don't know for certain if Venice has it too, still the museum there seems also nice to see(and I should go there eventually for a CV but, due to logistical problems, is not a priority). Then there's the archive of the USMM(Ufficio Storico dello Stato Maggiore della Marina Militare) but that one is in Rome and it's way off my "range", without counting the long set of rules and limitations set in place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CORN] x_Hasso_von_Manteuffel_x Beta Tester 4,544 posts 3,694 battles Report post #711 Posted August 24, 2016 I dont read the theme at all ... but i think i find something interesting for the Tier 7 BB ... also because it has the same fire power as the Littorio (the most probably Tier 8), torpedo launchers ... Oh ... and i have bad news who also will probably important for the Italian tree ... Wargaming anounced the Graf Zeppelin as Premium for 2017 and also said, that it will be the only carrier in the German tree. So, becasue Italy also stand not realy better in therms of build carriers and planed projects i have the feeling the Italian tree also qill see just the Aquila as Premium and no other carrier ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comodoro_Allande Players 2,240 posts 8,469 battles Report post #712 Posted August 24, 2016 Oh ... and i have bad news who also will probably important for the Italian tree ... Wargaming anounced the Graf Zeppelin as Premium for 2017 and also said, that it will be the only carrier in the German tree. So, becasue Italy also stand not realy better in therms of build carriers and planed projects i have the feeling the Italian tree also qill see just the Aquila as Premium and no other carrier ... Source of that info??? I want to see this and laugh hard when soviet CV's be announced... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon93 Sailing Hamster 3,124 posts 1,275 battles Report post #713 Posted August 24, 2016 I dont read the theme at all ... but i think i find something interesting for the Tier 7 BB ... also because it has the same fire power as the Littorio (the most probably Tier 8), torpedo launchers ... Oh ... and i have bad news who also will probably important for the Italian tree ... Wargaming anounced the Graf Zeppelin as Premium for 2017 and also said, that it will be the only carrier in the German tree. So, becasue Italy also stand not realy better in therms of build carriers and planed projects i have the feeling the Italian tree also qill see just the Aquila as Premium and no other carrier ... She would be much more squishier due to the fact the smaller displacement doesn't make a lot of room for protection, still a drawback is required(otherwise would really be OP). For the CVs is not a problem really, I added them because I didn't know if WG was willing to add lines for other nations. Would be interesting to see how they make Aquila but I doubt she would be a priority Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CORN] x_Hasso_von_Manteuffel_x Beta Tester 4,544 posts 3,694 battles Report post #714 Posted August 24, 2016 (edited) You know Wargaming, there everything is possible ^^ ... even stuff like that the largest and most heavy BB ingame get just 88k HP (in the test phase)And i think it could become a interesting ship. A lot fire power, relative fast and agile, but a worse protection ;)About the carriers, do you remember my fanmade tree for the Germans? I also bring a complete carrier line, even with a spliting in it ... there was more then enough projects to could fill it up ... Edit: Source of that info??? I want to see this and laugh hard when soviet CV's be announced... Also read it a time ago just here in the forum. Have to search it again (there was also a link to this statment) Edited August 24, 2016 by DeadMemories 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Devi1 Weekend Tester 103 posts 9,959 battles Report post #715 Posted August 24, 2016 You know Wargaming, there everything is possible ^^ Yeah, but there are a lot of "real" ships/trees that need to be in the game before a full "what if" ships/trees like in WoT... obviously i'm ignoring the russian because of reasons... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CORN] x_Hasso_von_Manteuffel_x Beta Tester 4,544 posts 3,694 battles Report post #716 Posted August 24, 2016 (edited) Yeah, but there are a lot of "real" ships/trees that need to be in the game before a full "what if" ships/trees like in WoT... obviously i'm ignoring the russian because of reasons... Basicly WG anounced that they will fill up the German and Soviet tree, then the British and then the rest. France and Italy anyway, but with the new premium i would say, France first ;) Edited August 24, 2016 by DeadMemories Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Historynerd Beta Tester 4,249 posts 848 battles Report post #717 Posted August 24, 2016 Oh ... and i have bad news who also will probably important for the Italian tree ... Wargaming anounced the Graf Zeppelin as Premium for 2017 and also said, that it will be the only carrier in the German tree. So, becasue Italy also stand not realy better in therms of build carriers and planed projects i have the feeling the Italian tree also qill see just the Aquila as Premium and no other carrier ... Well, if this ends up confirmed, it's a bummer. Still, as long as we see a premium as a flag-bearer, why not? And especially, as long as we get the Italian BBs, CA/CLs and DDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CORN] x_Hasso_von_Manteuffel_x Beta Tester 4,544 posts 3,694 battles Report post #718 Posted August 24, 2016 Well, if this ends up confirmed, it's a bummer. Still, as long as we see a premium as a flag-bearer, why not? And especially, as long as we get the Italian BBs, CA/CLs and DDs. As long as they comes at least, right ... the Aquila is one of the Italian ships i'm realy interested in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
byronicasian Players 391 posts Report post #719 Posted August 24, 2016 I dont read the theme at all ... but i think i find something interesting for the Tier 7 BB ... also because it has the same fire power as the Littorio (the most probably Tier 8), torpedo launchers ... Oh ... and i have bad news who also will probably important for the Italian tree ... Wargaming anounced the Graf Zeppelin as Premium for 2017 and also said, that it will be the only carrier in the German tree. So, becasue Italy also stand not realy better in therms of build carriers and planed projects i have the feeling the Italian tree also qill see just the Aquila as Premium and no other carrier ... Strange, considering Dai (one of their archivists) reportedly sent Lesta a whole slew of German CV designs accroding to her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CORN] x_Hasso_von_Manteuffel_x Beta Tester 4,544 posts 3,694 battles Report post #720 Posted August 25, 2016 Strange, considering Dai (one of their archivists) reportedly sent Lesta a whole slew of German CV designs accroding to her. Hey, i still hope for it. If you want to see our build check out this thread (and yes, we made a split between light and heavy cruisers as well as battleships and battlecruisers, becasue WG said at this days, that they think about this splits): http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/35120-der-ultimative-deutsche-forschungsbaum/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Historynerd Beta Tester 4,249 posts 848 battles Report post #721 Posted August 25, 2016 I read it(there's a blackout on my apartment building so editing on the phone can't be done properly). Anyway Acton's project looks like it is a tier IV candidate, the only weirdness I encountered is that there is a discrepancy between the text and the sheet regarding torpedo armament(nothing too problematic). A shame there isn't an image of the ship in question but oh well Now that I think about it... couldn't one of those designs fill the gap for a Tier 3 cruiser? Replacing the poor Vettor Pisani? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon93 Sailing Hamster 3,124 posts 1,275 battles Report post #722 Posted August 25, 2016 Now that I think about it... couldn't one of those designs fill the gap for a Tier 3 cruiser? Replacing the poor Vettor Pisani? Possibly although I focused more on the tier IV slot due to the fact I wanted to avoid the ex German cruisers. Considering we have Quarto/Nino Bixio at tier II a tier III cruiser from those would make more sense than Vettor Pisani. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CORN] x_Hasso_von_Manteuffel_x Beta Tester 4,544 posts 3,694 battles Report post #723 Posted August 25, 2016 Now that I think about it... couldn't one of those designs fill the gap for a Tier 3 cruiser? Replacing the poor Vettor Pisani? At the fanmade Italian tree i made with a dude we put the Nino Bixio on Tier 3 ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon93 Sailing Hamster 3,124 posts 1,275 battles Report post #724 Posted August 25, 2016 At the fanmade Italian tree i made with a dude we put the Nino Bixio on Tier 3 ... Nino Bixio would just have 5x120 mm guns on broadside and no torpedoes as armament, enough for a tier II but surely not enough for a tier III. Moreover protection wise she would suck hard for a tier III since she doesn't have vertical protection, making her super easy to citadel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CORN] x_Hasso_von_Manteuffel_x Beta Tester 4,544 posts 3,694 battles Report post #725 Posted August 25, 2016 Nino Bixio would just have 5x120 mm guns on broadside and no torpedoes as armament, enough for a tier II but surely not enough for a tier III. Moreover protection wise she would suck hard for a tier III since she doesn't have vertical protection, making her super easy to citadel. Yes, but with 27 knots they is relative fast for Tier 3 and with some Wargaming typical B hull who ad some more main artillery they would be fine ... it is a bit hard to find there sometimes the right ships by the Italians, if we just go after the real stats of them ... mean, the Vettor Pisani is a bit like the St. Louis, but had just 18 knots, what is damn low Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
