Should SkybuckFlying have ability to make new threads?

[robihr]

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[Liviu_Von_Prundar]

short answer : NO !!!

 

[Allied_Winter]

Yes. Just because his topics don't appeal that many players, and some of them are BBved almost instantely, this doesn't allow anybody (besides the mods) to decide if a user (be it Skybuck or anybody else) is allowed to post or not!

 

If I don't like some threads I simply ignore them. I suggest, you maybe try this out for yourself?

 

 

Greetings

 

 

P.S. let's see how long it takes before this topic gets BBVs attention.

[Hero_of_Zero_EU]

No, if you're serious.

Yes, if you're not.

[cro_pwr]

144 useless threads. nuff said

 

fixed it for you.

[Mister_Greek]

Thread of the day so far.

 

While his threads are total nonsense, the way the community reacts to his posts is hillarious,especially that epic 5 facepalm meme of you OP

 

 

 

 

[robihr]

Yes. Just because his topics don't appeal that many players, and some of them are BBved almost instantely, this doesn't allow anybody (besides the mods) to decide if a user (be it Skybuck or anybody else) is allowed to post or not!

 

If I don't like some threads I simply ignore them. I suggest, you maybe try this out for yourself?

 

 

Greetings

 

 

P.S. let's see how long it takes before this topic gets BBVs attention.

 

appeal to many players? these are some of his ideas (i dont have time to list them all). srsly idk if he is troll or just stupid.

 

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/49953-perma-death-to-make-the-game-more-fun/

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/53950-all-around-players-vs-specialized-players

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/52975-shooting-torpedoes-out-of-the-water-with-cannons

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/50041-new-game-modes-shake-down-twistsunforgivingvampirerage/

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/50325-please-play-some-more-rts-before-playing-world-of-warships/

[Allied_Winter]

 

appeal to many players? these are some of his ideas (i dont have time to list them all). srsly idk if he is troll or just stupid.

 

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/49953-perma-death-to-make-the-game-more-fun/

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/53950-all-around-players-vs-specialized-players

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/52975-shooting-torpedoes-out-of-the-water-with-cannons

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/50041-new-game-modes-shake-down-twistsunforgivingvampirerage/

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/50325-please-play-some-more-rts-before-playing-world-of-warships/

 

Don't know any of these, as stated, I don't look into most of them. I only see, that he's opening new threads like others smoke cigarettes. BUT: Just because in the eyes of the usuall forumite his threads maybe useless, and he might be refusing to learn the basic game mechanics, it's not up to the playerbase to decide, whether a forumite is "worthy" or not to post!

 

For me that's common sense, that people may say anything they want, even if I don't like to hear it. If they say something illegal, then there are rules to remove them. BUT (again): It is not our job to single out and remove players we don't like. That's what mods are for.

 

Afaik, the forum rules have a point about trolling? If this is the case for Skybuck, then the mods will do the job! If they don't see it as trolling, we have to live with that. Just ignore his threads...

 

 

Greetings

[Egoleter]

 srsly idk if he is troll or just stupid.

 

Neither gives you the right to insult and dicriminate. Pretending to be better then him, actually makes you a worse person.

[robihr]

he needs restricted ability to make new threads. i am not against him posting things on forums. just against him creating new threads with stupid/troll ideas.

 

out of total 700 posts he has 144 opened threads. so 1/5 of his posts are new threads. he doesnt even discuss his ideas much. so why not limit spam/troll?

[Battleship_Nagato]

So long as they are not banned, they should be able to make new threads. If we take away his freedom just because you don't like it, then where do we stop?

[Historynerd]

Ah, what the heck.

 

It's true, one cannot be stopped from creating all the threads he likes...

 

...as long as he isn't banned.

 

And I believe that the subject may have earned a vacation; or, at very least, badly needs one.

[Allied_Winter]

so why not limit spam/troll?

 

Because, apparently up to this date, the mods didn't think so. Or think they done enough by closing those threads, that are spam/troll and keep those open, that are not. May I ask what's exactly bothering you about his posts? Are you forced to read them? Or do you seek some value in every thread and are disappointed if Skybucks threads have no value for you? Have you actually tried to talk to him? Opening a thread up like: "Dear Skybuck, we know you like to post new ideas, but most of them are questionable to begin with"

 

So long as they are not banned, they should be able to make new threads. If we take away his freedom just because you don't like it, then where do we stop?

 

Exactly! It's "freedom of speech" and not "freedom of speech^{but only if your speech suits everybody}". Sure he has to resepect the forum rules, but other than that?

 

I find it only quite regrettable, that up to know 80% voted "No", as if it would be ok, to strip others of their rights via a poll

 

 

Greetings

[robihr]

Exactly! It's "freedom of speech" and not "freedom of speech^{but only if your speech suits everybody}". Sure he has to resepect the forum rules, but other than that?

 

I find it only quite regrettable, that up to know 80% voted "No", as if it would be ok, to strip others of their rights via a poll

 

 

Greetings

 

but this is my freedom of speech also.

 

he is trying to limit me in the game with his ideas, i am trying to limit him on forum with my ideas?

 

fair enough?

 

edit:

btw petition is basic right of the democracy.

[Allied_Winter]

Care to explain how he is limiting your game with his ideas? Are you afraid, that the devs actually adopt an idea of his? Because if he just posts ideas of how to change the game, and those ideas aren't adopted, its just an idea that went down the drain. I can't see how this would limit you.

 

Greetings

[robihr]

Care to explain how he is limiting your game with his ideas? Are you afraid, that the devs actually adopt an idea of his? Because if he just posts ideas of how to change the game, and those ideas aren't adopted, its just an idea that went down the drain. I can't see how this would limit you.

 

Greetings

 

same can be said for my idea. if moderators dont adopt my idea, i dont see how this would limit him.

 

btw compared to his ideas, mine is actually useful

[Battleship_Nagato]

Er, if he puts forward ridiculous opinions and suggestions, he gets what he deserves, that is, ridicule. If his ideas are useful, he gets actual discussion. I don't see where the problem is...? And no, your idea isn't useful at all, you're just trying to limit someone just because [insert reason here].

[Allied_Winter]

@robihr: That (at least in my eyes) is only partly true. And I begin to understand what you meant with "limit" your game:

 

Is it, that most of his ideas are (in your eyes) badly designed and not worthy to be adopted into the game. And because you're afraid, that some day a dev might find those ideas viable and adopt them into the game, forcing you to live with an idea you didn't like from the beginning.

 

Am I right?

 

 

Now let me explain my "partly true": Yes you are not limiting as long as the mods don't agree with you, but instead of trying other lesser forms to counter him first, you went instantly to the "banhammer".

You could've:

- engaged in his threads to point out flaws (but given the current situation, that would be rather pointless)

- ignored those threads completely and hope that those ideas never make it to the game

- ignored those threads and accept that an online game changes from time to time

- propose(d) own ideas on how to improve the game

 

But saying: 'Hey I don't like your ideas, I'm afraid that they will limit my game if they make it into, so I take away your freedom of speech', is questionable and dangerous to say the least!

 

 

Greetings

[Sybeck]

Wow, just wow!  I seriously can't believe that as of this moment @ 66% of people who have voted have agreed that somebody's right to free speech and expression of ideas should be removed because it upsets them and apparently they are forced by some unknown entity to click on his posts and read them rather than sipping the coffee and looking elsewhere.  Odd how people search out things to be offended by and then demand a right that they shouldn't have this option to do so.  I guess it's a kind of censorial masochism that they get off on.

[robihr]

Wow, just wow!  I seriously can't believe that as of this moment @ 66% of people who have voted have agreed that somebody's right to free speech and expression of ideas should be removed because it upsets them and apparently they are forced by some unknown entity to click on his posts and read them rather than sipping the coffee and looking elsewhere.  Odd how people search out things to be offended by and then demand a right that they shouldn't have this option to do so.  I guess it's a kind of censorial masochism that they get off on.

 

nah, its just that over 70% ppl have actually read some of his threads and actually tried to engage in meaningful discussion about his ideas...

 

 

[Allied_Winter]

 

nah, its just that over 70% ppl have actually read some of his threads and actually tried to engage in meaningful discussion about his ideas...

 

 

 

And because ignoring those threads, is just too much to ask for, they demand of banning him completely. Well fair enough.

 

I still have that one question robihr: How does it limit you as a forumite and player, if a thread discussions ideas that have no value to you?

 

 

Greetings

[robihr]

 

And because ignoring those threads, is just too much to ask for, they demand of banning him completely. Well fair enough.

 

I still have that one question robihr: How does it limit you as a forumite and player, if a thread discussions ideas that have no value to you?

 

 

Greetings

 

i dont demand banning him. idk where you read that. just making him not able to make new threads and spam.

[Allied_Winter]

My apologies! I rephrase myself (rephrased part is underlined):

 

And because ignoring those threads, is just too much to ask for, they demand of restricting him in his personal rights in this forum to open threads like everybody else.

 

Now: I still have that open question: How does it limit you as a forumite and player, if a thread discussions ideas that have no value to you?

 

 

Greetings

[blademansw]

I find it only quite regrettable, that up to know 80% voted "No", as if it would be ok, to strip others of their rights via a poll

 

 

Unfortunately, that is also a model of democracy. AKA tyranny of the majority 

 

[robihr]

My apologies! I rephrase myself (rephrased part is underlined):

 

And because ignoring those threads, is just too much to ask for, they demand of restricting him in his personal rights in this forum to open threads like everybody else.

 

Now: I still have that open question: How does it limit you as a forumite and player, if a thread discussions ideas that have no value to you?

 

 

Greetings

 

cause there is use of forums like everyone else, and then there is abuse of forums like he does it. use and abuse is 2 totally different things. i would have suggested that normal forumite has to have at least 10 posts for every thread he can create, but that would actually hinder normal use of forum for other players that have legitimate questions and concerns.

 

where you see it as freedom of speech problem, i see it as abuse of normal forum use. i am always against abusers and trolls. should i spam 5 topics daily with stupid ideas about gameplay just to prove my point?