[HEROI] R3dBaron Beta Tester 55 posts 995 battles Report post #1 Posted June 10, 2016 (edited) Just check for yourself... http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/83071-done-with-game-for-now-over-this/#topmost I really hope something is done about it as soon as possible. Edited June 10, 2016 by R3dBaron 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #2 Posted June 10, 2016 And if anyone finds such cheats please make WG aware in private. Am sure they will find a way to ban them AND the users of them. Seems like some people don't learn that cheating is only short term game. Sure it's "bad" if verified but I'm still sure most players getting to high ranks don't cheat. And don't need to. Anyway. Please don't reply with links to cheats. Obviously! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #3 Posted June 10, 2016 And? Yesterday I sank 2 DD with my Ishizuchi. I doubt this has much effect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #4 Posted June 10, 2016 And? Yesterday I sank 2 DD with my Ishizuchi. I doubt this has much effect. The torpedo lines would only work with detected torpedoes. And only show you what you ought to be able to work out anyway. Showing you where shells are going to land is worse. It's obviously a helpful cheat, although I'm not sure massively as it won't really help you dodge. Again like aim mod it's mostly laziness. Mostly I expect it will just inform you of how you are going to die rather than allow you to avoid it. Mostly. Its still cheating though. Baffles me a little that people think cheating is a viable strategy. WG will ban cheating mods. They already have and will again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OILUP] WhiskeyWolf Beta Tester 1,491 posts 11,683 battles Report post #5 Posted June 10, 2016 Am sure they will find a way to ban them AND the users of them. Seems like some people don't learn that cheating is only short term game. Not if it's a RAM hack, they won't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #6 Posted June 10, 2016 Not if it's a RAM hack, they won't. Well you could put a process into the client which actively looks for memory access calls that shouldn't be there... But the above is the case in all client server setups. You cant 100% stop all cheats. But you can make it so hard and unreliable to do that it's not worth it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #7 Posted June 10, 2016 If its really a cheat, wg should find with no probs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OILUP] WhiskeyWolf Beta Tester 1,491 posts 11,683 battles Report post #8 Posted June 10, 2016 If its really a cheat, wg should find with no probs It's not that simple, programing is one thing, fighting cheats requires a different kind of knowledge. BTW, weren't they looking for exactly such a person recently to hire? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #9 Posted June 10, 2016 What can I say, I ve had some moments lately when I was thinking my opponent was either very very good, or very very lucky... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rafparis Beta Tester 872 posts 4,381 battles Report post #10 Posted June 10, 2016 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.................. and this news just before ranked start.... aimassist was bad enough, but now ship silhouettes even when hidden, torps and shells impact lines.... that is seriousely gamebreaking.... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanhal Alpha Tester 5,609 posts 5,569 battles Report post #11 Posted June 10, 2016 Old news. Still, it's kinda worrying it's not been dealt with yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GMT] Phlogistoned Players 779 posts Report post #12 Posted June 10, 2016 Disheartening.. :-/ And I wonder if the creators of the mod have thought ahead at all. A thing like this can well kill the game, then all their effort is lost. Would be better if they used their talents to code legal mods. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IDDQD] von_chom Alpha Tester 3,465 posts 11,649 battles Report post #13 Posted June 10, 2016 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.................. and this news just before ranked start.... aimassist was bad enough, but now ship silhouettes even when hidden, torps and shells impact lines.... that is seriousely gamebreaking.... its known for almost half a year, thanks god only paid hacks has it, you wont find such thing for free.... so the occurrence might be not that high Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] Kevbar Beta Tester 687 posts 8,087 battles Report post #14 Posted June 10, 2016 Oh!! It's just a hack, thank feck for that!!! I had some kind of nightmare thought that Trump had secured the Republican nomination. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Bearded_Clam Players 14 posts 2,847 battles Report post #15 Posted June 10, 2016 well this explains alot, playing DDS in ranked, i had a suspicion it may be a bug with the detection, firing torps at 6.5Klm undetected, the target changed direction before the torps hit the water, not on just one single occasion, on many, over the last 2-3 weeks the amount of occurrences has dramatically increased to the point were torps are pretty much useless, unlesss you are within 2Klm of the target, but that said how to get within 2klm with an aim assist included in the Hack, you don`t without dying for the single kill, this Hack has pretty much stuffed the game, just like the hemorrhoid hack in WOWP, the best advice, dont spend you money on the game, why be ripped off, as for the users of the cheat, ban them, permanently, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] Takru Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster, Privateer 3,851 posts 23,963 battles Report post #16 Posted June 10, 2016 well this explains alot, playing DDS in ranked, i had a suspicion it may be a bug with the detection, firing torps at 6.5Klm undetected, the target changed direction before the torps hit the water, not on just one single occasion, on many, over the last 2-3 weeks the amount of occurrences has dramatically increased to the point were torps are pretty much useless, unlesss you are within 2Klm of the target, but that said how to get within 2klm with an aim assist included in the Hack, you don`t without dying for the single kill, this Hack has pretty much stuffed the game, just like the hemorrhoid hack in WOWP, the best advice, dont spend you money on the game, why be ripped off, as for the users of the cheat, ban them, permanently, What you have whitnessed is the infamous WASD haxx. Ships changing course even before you fire torps. Wow. Just. Wow. You realize that people can see the what kind of ships there are in the game? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azrael_Ashemdion Beta Tester 360 posts 17,480 battles Report post #17 Posted June 10, 2016 Not if it's a RAM hack, they won't. Hmmm...if it's a RAM hack, then they're running their hack in the same process space, otherwise Windows would shut them down for Access Violation. And if they're in the same process space, WG would be able to look for the mod, and throw a red-flag to the server even if the client was unable to stop it. The server could then take whatever action was appropriate for the circumstance. Hmm... Az Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #18 Posted June 10, 2016 Well, it happens quite often that literally the splitsecond I pull the trigger while aiming at a target that doesn't see me it starts turning. But I always thought these were "incoming fire alert" users. I will keep thinking this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,549 battles Report post #19 Posted June 10, 2016 Hi all, Just check for yourself... http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/83071-done-with-game-for-now-over-this/#topmost I really hope something is done about it as soon as possible. Few months ago I saw WoWs video with those "features" on YouTube (it was advertisement for paid - I think even 100$ IIRC - WoWs hack pack)... BTW, I (and many others) thought that with recent mandatory signing of all MODs something like that is impossible... was I (and others) wrong? Leo "Apollo11" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CBS] Allied_Winter Players 6,242 posts 10,755 battles Report post #20 Posted June 10, 2016 Although such a topic just before ranked can be infamouse, I do have my doubts about how big of an impact this will have. First: Both shown videos in the NA thread are quite old. One is 6 months old, and the other is 3 months old. So both "hacks" happened before the client got repacked, and the modders needed an unpacker to extract the code they want to mod. Second: Both videos showed only information that was availiable on the client. The hit boxes (while they maybe helpfull) work only if the enemy is visible. Same logic applies for the incoming shells. Interesting would be to know if, those incoming shell markers, also need the firing ship to be visible or not. If the later is the case, than this "hack" renders the 'Incoming Fire Alert' skill useless, by giving the user a better indication where the shells are about to come down. But: Third: While mods that use information that is known to the client to give users an unfair advantage over other players are bad, none of these "hacks" will work if there are no information on the client. There is no mod to unveil an undetected ship, because this piece of information is stored on the server and given only to the client in the event of e.g. entering detection range or using radar. Then, and only then, the server hands out (in this case) the position of the enemy ship to the client. The rendering itself of the now known enemy ship takes some time. (OT: You can observe such behaviour on the current 0.5.6 by ships becoming first visible on the minimap, and a few seconds (3 ;) ) later the are rendered). Disclaimer: Be aware, that I don't want to play down any existing hacks, nor do I want to encourage players to use such mods. I only suggest that it helps sometimes to step back a bit, take a deep breath and analyse the whole situation. And please point out if, I overlooked something or put somethin in th wrong context. Thanks! Greetings 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Kenjiro_ [THESO] Players 991 posts 12,433 battles Report post #21 Posted June 10, 2016 its known for almost half a year, thanks god only paid hacks has it, you wont find such thing for free.... so the occurrence might be not that high If it is a paid hack I can assure you it's not widespread. Most of the playerbase is too cheap even for the premium consumables for credits, let alone for a hack for real money 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MATREKUS Players 377 posts 4,311 battles Report post #22 Posted June 10, 2016 This is so sad...and WG cant do a thing about it....once this lands viral on mass the game will die very soon... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,549 battles Report post #23 Posted June 10, 2016 Hi all, If it is a paid hack I can assure you it's not widespread. Most of the playerbase is too cheap even for the premium consumables for credits, let alone for a hack for real money IIRC it was around 100$ (imagine that)... when they posted first info about it on Reddit in January... Leo "Apollo11" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #24 Posted June 10, 2016 (edited) Oh no....another excuse to abuse anyone who kills you or dodges your torps in normal play. Edited June 10, 2016 by bushwacker001 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark_messiah93 Players 35 posts 2,999 battles Report post #25 Posted June 10, 2016 Uhm a third party program that have access on client information ? I think it could be easily blocked with a control routine. It can't be invisible, Wg just need to put some effort for ban these cheaters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
