[TEA] Robber_Baron Players 1,322 posts 7,981 battles Report post #51 Posted June 8, 2016 About the 500k credit screenshot: Anybody can have one good game, post a screenshot and claim the ship is awesome. (...) When it's bottom tier and facing Tier 9, all you can do is hide and pray, because you are basically just a bonus target, even for the same (and higher) tier DDs. Fair enough, in fact, it was not my game. But I never claimed the ship is awesome. I had some success in driving an Atlanta bottom tier. I don't want to claim the Atlanta is great, it for sure isn't among the best ships in game. I think it's a difficult ship, very difficult at some maps, but it's not as bad as some people think. Just my €0,02 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Msiiek Players 465 posts 5,330 battles Report post #52 Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) It's bad becouse you need to be in good situation to make use of this ship. It's bad becouse you can die from any higher caliber shell if it hits you no matter the angle. Concealment is garbage if you don't have 15 point captain. U need to play her like dd but the only thing it have similiar with dds is that she die as fast or faster than dds when spoted. Tier 6 would be better for her becouse ship itself is useless most of the time tier 8+. When playing her all you need to do is wait for alone and stupid players and surprise them. Too much things you need to do very well to get decent results. Ship doesn't forgive any even small mistakes. Also with such shell travel time you will have problem hitting dds if they aren't closer than 7km. Overall, VERY situational ship that depends on how bad enemies you face. Still can be fun to play but it does underperform. Edited June 8, 2016 by Msiiek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[V888] Shagulon Beta Tester 413 posts 32,694 battles Report post #53 Posted June 8, 2016 In those cases you gotta play it like a camping coward, hiding, waiting for opportunities created by teammates, which is something I really don't like because it's not good for the gameplay to rely so heavily on others while doing nothing yourself meanwhile. This is the major issue. All that waiting around waiting for ships to blunder into your area means you sit there 5 minutes a rely on your team. This is not great in random and often you have already lost the game by the time you manage to ambush anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WIND] Elenortirion Players 1,890 posts 2,549 battles Report post #54 Posted June 8, 2016 Team support and solo action, it happens more often than you think and you do get points! you do realise that you could finish that last cruiser much faster with AP, right? [crapton of citadels just as he showed you broadside on sub 5km range] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KR_] woodyudet_17 Beta Tester 124 posts 16,911 battles Report post #55 Posted June 8, 2016 Found Atlanta somewhat frustrating, but concealment expert makes a huge difference I find as you can sneak up as well as get away more easily. Plays quite differently with that extra bit of stealth... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andyphone Players 176 posts Report post #56 Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) you do realise that you could finish that last cruiser much faster with AP, right? [crapton of citadels just as he showed you broadside on sub 5km range] At the time not really, I didn't even think about it. Was still getting confidence and the order was to use only HE Ciao Edited June 8, 2016 by Andyphone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #57 Posted June 8, 2016 Always satisfying to surprise one of those cocky CL with a few blows to the crown jewels (Don't have an Atlanta yet, will train this captain to at least 15 skill points beforehand ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ORSA] P4RDUS Players 380 posts 11,672 battles Report post #58 Posted June 9, 2016 I would not get "advanced firing training" with an atlanta. you can hardly ever hit anything beyond 10 km. "Demolition Expert" with "Concealment" seems like a better choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Kenliero Players 2,478 posts 11,184 battles Report post #59 Posted June 9, 2016 At the time not really, I didn't even think about it. Was still getting confidence and the order was to use only HE Ciao There was very small window where AP was effective. The enemy started angling right away after he came out behind the corner, and you would of only bounced the remaining shots, if you would of switch to AP. HE was safer option in this case, because there was no way you could of known that he came out of the corner showing full broadside. If you'd known that in advance, you could of had AP already loaded in advance and hit some citadels. It is easy to say afterwards from the replay which ammo was more effective, but during the game there was no way to know how the enemies appear, how close and in what angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andyphone Players 176 posts Report post #60 Posted June 9, 2016 There was very small window where AP was effective. The enemy started angling right away after he came out behind the corner, and you would of only bounced the remaining shots, if you would of switch to AP. HE was safer option in this case, because there was no way you could of known that he came out of the corner showing full broadside. If you'd known that in advance, you could of had AP already loaded in advance and hit some citadels. It is easy to say afterwards from the replay which ammo was more effective, but during the game there was no way to know how the enemies appear, how close and in what angle. Great analysis, thanks. There I just left HE on at all times without thinking much, lately I am using AP more when I see the opportunity. Ciao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HNS] HellPotato [HNS] Beta Tester 2 posts 9,262 battles Report post #61 Posted June 9, 2016 Atlanta is a delicate FOX which hiding and waiting patiently to punish hurrying and noob victims Behind her small and sensitive body conceals large and sharp teeths I've been with her for hunting about 200 times and is fun most of the times I think the only thing missing from her is the speed. My last game with her was : 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAZI] allufewig Beta Tester 2,912 posts 15,263 battles Report post #62 Posted June 9, 2016 Atlanta is a delicate FOX which hiding and waiting patiently to punish hurrying and noob victims Behind her small and sensitive body conceals large and sharp teeths I've been with her for hunting about 200 times and is fun most of the times I think the only thing missing from her is the speed. My last game with her was : Despite her slender look, she is rather slow and certainly the most sluggish vixen on the oceans. A buff to agility is high on my wishlist. The agility in form of ruddershift-time and acceleration/braking is that of a heavy cruiser and not suited to something that has the purpose of hunting the quickest prey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #63 Posted June 9, 2016 By the way: I'm curious why the Atlanta seems to have a slight anti-torpedo bulge but it doesn't seem to do anything. Pics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Msiiek Players 465 posts 5,330 battles Report post #64 Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) Becouse it needs to be deleted if anything hits her. You know glasscannon ship but it's truly only glass if you aren't close enough. I got deleted yesterday by nagato with one salvo from 8 km whilke showing bow only. Don't take hits, even dds will do more damage to you if you aren't perfectly angled. Paper armor that can be citadeled from any angle by almost any shell (like dds, but they don't have citadel trough the whole ship). Edited June 9, 2016 by Msiiek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #65 Posted June 9, 2016 I'm fully aware of that but I think that 4% torp dmg reduction won't change it that much anyway ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER Players 1,473 posts Report post #66 Posted June 9, 2016 By the way: I'm curious why the Atlanta seems to have a slight anti-torpedo bulge but it doesn't seem to do anything. Pics You have a sharp eye, i never noticed this anti torpedo bulge, but it doesn't work anyway i don't think, if you bump a friendly ship in Atlanta you will probably sink This ship is fun, but "stone the crows" it' has incredibly weak armour Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ATOM-] DarthB0B0 Players 68 posts 10,254 battles Report post #67 Posted June 10, 2016 Honestly... Yes you can have good games in it.. But they are far outweighed by the crap ones.. Hardly ever see a carrier so AA is usually worthless. Guns,, oh yeah great if you want to shoot at that passing asteroid or unless some idiot comes within about 6K without killing you first. And armour,, oh wow no sorry nothing to see here. Look there are loads of vdeos about how to play an Atlanta but they all have one thing in common. A good situation to start with and that's the issue, put it in the right battle, hope no one focuses you (because we all know that never happens), ETC ETC ETC and yes it can be fun..... These Videos also never show you the huge number of crap games they had before getting the good one that they have recorded and can crow about. The stats don't lie and the "oh any noob can buy one" argument does not wash either, there are plenty of reasonably good players with them and it still basically sits right at the [edited]end of its tier. All the changes and power creep have hurt it very badly. I could go on but its all been said before. A lot of players who may have paid WG more money are not spending, me among them. It is hands down the WORST premium WG have ever conned me into buying. They have history here (Lowe anyone?) with their OK lets change a few things so they need a new ship to knock around in but lets say its for "balancing" reasons. That's basically bait and switch and its absolutely the last I will buy as a result. A shame really as I was hoping to get some RN premiums but no. Trust me I have some of their "finest" products and this one is the one that really hacks me off and proved to be the last straw. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER Players 1,473 posts Report post #68 Posted June 11, 2016 (edited) Honestly... Yes you can have good games in it.. But they are far outweighed by the crap ones.. Hardly ever see a carrier so AA is usually worthless. Guns,, oh yeah great if you want to shoot at that passing asteroid or unless some idiot comes within about 6K without killing you first. And armour,, oh wow no sorry nothing to see here. Look there are loads of vdeos about how to play an Atlanta but they all have one thing in common. A good situation to start with and that's the issue, put it in the right battle, hope no one focuses you (because we all know that never happens), ETC ETC ETC and yes it can be fun..... These Videos also never show you the huge number of crap games they had before getting the good one that they have recorded and can crow about. The stats don't lie and the "oh any noob can buy one" argument does not wash either, there are plenty of reasonably good players with them and it still basically sits right at the [edited]end of its tier. All the changes and power creep have hurt it very badly. I could go on but its all been said before. A lot of players who may have paid WG more money are not spending, me among them. It is hands down the WORST premium WG have ever conned me into buying. They have history here (Lowe anyone?) with their OK lets change a few things so they need a new ship to knock around in but lets say its for "balancing" reasons. That's basically bait and switch and its absolutely the last I will buy as a result. A shame really as I was hoping to get some RN premiums but no. Trust me I have some of their "finest" products and this one is the one that really hacks me off and proved to be the last straw. I totally agree, although it's fun its by far the the biggest joke ship on WoW, the guns are awesome if you find a DD in range, but that is where the praise stops. Everything else about the ship is so bad it's actually funny, if the enemy ship threw eggs at the Atlanta it would sink. These videos the online streamers make are not quite the true picture, how many games do they play before finding one good enough to make a video; i would say many games, i mostly ignore them unless its a video explaining how to use captain skills wisely etc How WG can release a ship this bad is even funnier than the ship itself Many would shout RIP OFF!! and who could blame them Guns 6/10 Torps 3/10 Armour 0.5/10 Rudder 4/10 Speed 4/10 Gun range 2/10 Fun factor 4/10 Value for money 1/10 This ship should be in T5 or T6, It is out of it's depth in T7, funniest thing is; it get matched with T8 and T9 ships, you just couldn't make it up Edited June 11, 2016 by anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinC Quality Poster 1,695 posts 9,500 battles Report post #69 Posted June 11, 2016 When someone says Atlanta I always remember this glorious video Seriously, that is a great video. I was also under the impression that Atlanta was mostly useless. Either I was babysitting a carrier and didn't have anything in range, or I was dodging shells and torps from every side. You gotta hand it to Eurobeat, he knows how to make a vid that is both funny AND instructive! I have had some of my best games with Atlanta since then, doing TONS of damage and upsetting SCORES of players on the other team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Kenliero Players 2,478 posts 11,184 battles Report post #70 Posted June 11, 2016 I actually get a lot of good games in Atlanta. Games I put to youtube are not one good game in hundred. I get a lot of good games that I never show. It just doesn't make sense uploading million similar Atlanta games. Originally when I started playing Atlanta, which was my first premium, I was running only 45% wins, but when I learned to play later, I have managed to raise it to total 54% wins, where recently I win around 60% of my games in it and MOST games are good ones and rarely get killed early in the battle. It is just long learning process. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XbodzioXplX Players 6,008 posts 7,043 battles Report post #71 Posted June 11, 2016 Atlanta is a delicate FOX which hiding and waiting patiently to punish hurrying and noob victims Behind her small and sensitive body conceals large and sharp teeths I've been with her for hunting about 200 times and is fun most of the times I think the only thing missing from her is the speed. My last game with her was : The speed is fine for me but I would like her to turn faster - it is her life/death with fighting against DDs (close range). And her teeth are rather cat like not dog like And guys please be aware of something. When you think - ok I have a paper ship I will stay behind - you bring weakness to the team. Every cruiser is paper (ok Atlanta is much more) so you should not stay behind but sail with someone (many someone) that will bring you cover. Do not be the first wall but with rather little fire range you shouldn't be the last. I've read a lot of reviews and seen tons of vids about Atlanta. The most common words are: - big DD - fun ship - sooo many shells - sooo little damage - sooooooooooo quick death Against all this I bought her and I find her a moneymaker just like other premium ships and I like her. Still Atago is bringing me more (her guns!). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PANEU] kfa Beta Tester 1,975 posts 13,875 battles Report post #72 Posted June 11, 2016 I totally agree, although it's fun its by far the the biggest joke ship on WoW, the guns are awesome if you find a DD in range, but that is where the praise stops. Everything else about the ship is so bad it's actually funny, if the enemy ship threw eggs at the Atlanta it would sink. These videos the online streamers make are not quite the true picture, how many games do they play before finding one good enough to make a video; i would say many games, i mostly ignore them unless its a video explaining how to use captain skills wisely etc How WG can release a ship this bad is even funnier than the ship itself Many would shout RIP OFF!! and who could blame them Guns 6/10 Torps 3/10 Armour 0.5/10 Rudder 4/10 Speed 4/10 Gun range 2/10 Fun factor 4/10 Value for money 1/10 This ship should be in T5 or T6, It is out of it's depth in T7, funniest thing is; it get matched with T8 and T9 ships, you just couldn't make it up You are wrong, it is especially good at hunting the DD horde in ranked. It is not a good ships and it is situational, but if it works it works really well, and has a huge fun factor. If you cant make it work play the IJN CA line they are far more superior with their armor, gun arcs and beautiful HE ammo. Guns 7/10 - because of the amount of them AA 10/10 Torps 5/10 - good enough for an amarican DD Armour 1/10 - okay well its crap Rudder 10/10 - really bro? 6.6s with the module with THAT turning circle? it must be the best manouverability from T5 amongst all cruisers Speed 6/10 - good enough Gun range 7/10 - with AFT 10/10. With that special gun arc you would never need more than 13.3 km Fun factor 9/10 - it is unique and satisfying to delete DDs and lobbing shells above island Value for money 5/10 - here you are right it is expensive compared to the Indianapolis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #73 Posted June 11, 2016 I have had some of my best games with Atlanta since then, doing TONS of damage and upsetting SCORES of players on the other team. Still your average damage with the Atlanta is 23k and thus subpar compared to all the other t7 cruisers you have. I don't want to annoy you but as someone who really likes the Atlanta's looks I will always look out for players who really "could make her work" so I might be able to justify the purchase myself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PKTZS] JapLance Weekend Tester 2,567 posts 18,265 battles Report post #74 Posted June 11, 2016 By the way: I'm curious why the Atlanta seems to have a slight anti-torpedo bulge but it doesn't seem to do anything. Pics That's not an anti-torpedo bulge, but the extra armour of the citadel. They are different things. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XbodzioXplX Players 6,008 posts 7,043 battles Report post #75 Posted June 11, 2016 That's not an anti-torpedo bulge, but the extra armour of the citadel. They are different things. "Extra armour" haha This ship is nearly all like citadel haha Good day guys (Am I only one that have a problem with post battle screen - it is empty?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
