Good job making Tirpitz dispersion like it is firing under defensive AA

[Striko1989]

Why, why did you ruin Tirpitz? Dispersion is so great, that you can bearly hit ship over 15 km! And under 15 Km almost no difference...

 

One salvo is "good", other 4-6 are like on Myogi!

 

In RL Bismarck/ Tirpitz have had greater accuracy..

 

It only has 8 shells, and if u manage to land 3-4 that is wow, and if u don't get fu++++ 1260 dmg .. LOL!

 

This is now useless ship, Amagi and NC can shoot with no probs from 17-20 km, and i have to get to under 15 km only so i can get fired up 3000x with OP russian sh** shels...

 

GG.

[General_Kunde]

Tirpitz dispersion has really become an annoying problem but I don't have hopes they do anything about it.

[AgarwaenME]

There's been no changes to it.

 

And you shouldn't expect to sit at 17-20km and get easy hits in the first place.

[aboomination]

Yes, she is not very accurate but still stronk.

[Cosseria]

She would arguably being OP if given less dispersion. Her nature is that of a fine all-rounder with a slight penchant for close range engagements, she may have to snipe if the necessity arises but she's not conceived for.

[HMS_Erebus]

The Tirpitz has better dispersion than the North Carolina, so i suspect you've just got unlucky with RNG in this case.

[xCaptainObviousx]

The Tirpitz has better dispersion than the North Carolina, so i suspect you've just got unlucky with RNG in this case.

 

didn't the NC get it's dispersion buffed in the last patch? (also, the NC and Tirpitz had the same dispersion at max range but the NC have 2 km more range if I'm not mistaken)

[Ictogan]

Tirpitz dispersion had never changed and is fine as it currently is. If it would be lower, it would be OP.

[_Lawine_]

The Tirpitz has better dispersion than the North Carolina, so i suspect you've just got unlucky with RNG in this case.

 

their max range dispersion is same, not same range dispersion

[_Lawine_]

Tirpitz dispersion had never changed and is fine as it currently is. If it would be lower, it would be OP.

 

with lowest gun configuration and worst dispersion, she is not fine

[Srle_Vigilante]

Excuse me is this yet another thread complain about Battleships being under powered? Not to mention the Tirpitz.

[SV_Kompresor]

I think that considering her relatively low penetration values because of the low caliber of the guns, at least the dispersion could be a bit better. It's better to hit a target and do 0 damage than to miss it. But then again, buffing it too much would make her OP very quickly

[SBS]

 

didn't the NC get it's dispersion buffed in the last patch? (also, the NC and Tirpitz had the same dispersion at max range but the NC have 2 km more range if I'm not mistaken)

 

Do not look at the dispersion numbers alone. The NC did not get it's dispersion buffed, but it's sigma value. Thus the grouping of the shells are a lot tighter now, but they can still go far to the side on occasion.

But tyes, the NC has a lot better accuracy because of the buff.

 

Also tirpitz does really well. Decent AA, excellen armor and hard to hit citadel. On top of this torps. It basicly is meant to get up close and personal.

[ollonborre]

Tirpizt dispersion has always been crap, that's why you get closer.

[Gojuadorai]

The Tirpitz has better dispersion than the North Carolina, so i suspect you've just got unlucky with RNG in this case.

 

 

that now is so WRONG

the NCA is not the most accurate BB its so accurate its laughable i  get 2x-3x citadels at 12km+ on cruisers nearly every game..... 

[HMS_Erebus]

271m at 21.1km for the NC

versus

276m at 21.4km for the Tirptiz

 

That said you shouldn't overlook the Tirpitz's superior armour and higher rate of fire o it'd be kind of strange from a balance point of view for the Tirp to be the most accurate of the three consider her other advantages.

 

Edit: Scratch that just remembered I have the accuracy mod on the Tirp which does put it down to a little over 250m dispersion.

[Ictogan]

 

with lowest gun configuration and worst dispersion, its not fine

 

Let's take a look at the bad sides of the Tirpitz:

- bad dispersion

- bad penetration

Now let's look at the good sides:

- torps

- rate of fire

- insane armor

- best maneuverability amongst high tier BBs

 

Yeah, surely it's UP.

[Ze_Reckless]

Learn how to Tirpitz. Get close, scrub.

[Gojuadorai]

271m at 21.1km for the NC

versus

276m at 21.4km for the Tirptiz

That said you shouldn't overlook the Tirpitz's superior armour and higher rate of fire o it'd be kind of strange from a balance point of view for the Tirp to be the most accurate of the three consider her other advantages.

 

Edit: Scratch that just remembered I have the accuracy mod on the Tirp which does put it down to a little over 250m dispersion.

 

well as recent buffs have shown the sigma of dispersion(not shown in client, distribution probability over the impact elypsoid) is was more important for accuuracy than the max possible dispersion

so the numbers shown in the client basically tell you nothing about how accurate a ship really is.

 

for example if you had a ship with a 1000m max dispersion  you would not really care when 9 of 10 shots land within 10m of the targeted point?

[Striko1989]

I have ~ 170 games in NC , and now after buff this is the most complete BB in T8, yes, Amagi has better guns, but has crapy AA, so does the Tirpitz..

 

Yes, i always go close, ~ 14km and i then HE spam begins and you are toasted. End of the story.

 

With NC you can point your front end, slow down a bit and have 6 amazing guns ( after update ) to play with, and you can do crap with Tirpitz on that, if u point your front end you only do not get damaged, but what is the point if u can't do anything more than to take HE shells and shoot with 2 front turrets with great dispersion and poor grouping. Ready to be torpeded by CV and/ or DD.

 

[DasTongle]

Sollution to the Problem. Go close and personal to enemy BB cause you drive an Unimog on Water with Guns. Your frontal armor is a giant middlefinger to all Opposing Battleships. On 2km range you do not give a rats [edited]bout enemy armor your pen value or anything else and if your guns dont fist them the torpedos will

[blademansw]

Sollution to the Problem. Go close and personal to enemy BB cause you drive an Unimog on Water with Guns. Your frontal armor is a giant middlefinger to all Opposing Battleships. On 2km range you do not give a rats [edited]bout enemy armor your pen value or anything else and if your guns dont fist them the torpedos will

 

Congratulations.. you are not a pussy...

[Striko1989]

 

Let's take a look at the bad sides of the Tirpitz:

- bad dispersion

- bad penetration

Now let's look at the good sides:

- torps

- rate of fire

- insane armor

- best maneuverability amongst high tier BBs

 

Yeah, surely it's UP.

 

Yeah, if u get to point that u have to use torps, than u probably would not last long.. Sry..

 

Bad sides:

- bad AA

- bad shell grouping

- NC have 3 turrets with 3 guns = 9

- Amagi 5 x 2 = 10

- Tirpitz 4x 2 = 8

- HE spam on Tirpitz since u have to get close to do something

 

Good sides:

- great armor

- great rudder shift

 

 

Nerf down HE spamers, limit them shells, limit torps, T9-T10 where i mostly end up is HE spam, torp spam, and CV banging me. GG

 

[_Lawine_]

 

Let's take a look at the bad sides of the Tirpitz:

- bad dispersion

- bad penetration

Now let's look at the good sides:

- torps

- rate of fire

- insane armor

- best maneuverability amongst high tier BBs

 

Yeah, surely it's UP.

 

i dont said she is up, but without torps yeah she is absolutely up

 

-insane armor==> actually nc bow armor outclasses tirpitzs armor also nc have 6 front gun

 

-best maneuvrability==> she is best in maneuverability  but also nc has pretty maneuverability 

 

also you forgot bad aa and bad torpedo defense and bad concealtmant, with this 3 carries can hunt you easly

 

also dont forget she have lowest gun caliber

[von_chom]

tirpitz should fight in 10-15 km range..

players are forced to this mainly because

1) armor

2) surprise surprise...dispersion

 

get used to it or stop playing it, i personalty see no chance for this to be changed anyhow, since it would significantly hampered intended gameplay