[T3SLA] Aurelios_zer0 Beta Tester 23 posts 9,133 battles Report post #1 Posted June 3, 2016 Can someone pls explain why is the economy broken for the last few days? is it the new patch or? T9 and t10 games are impossible to play.. a very good game in my Zao today( as seen on the SS) , 160k dmg and only 156k credits earned and -113k total repair bill? for real? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,598 battles Report post #2 Posted June 3, 2016 Hi all, Ouch... Please note that we have 25% reduction in Repair Bill since 3 days ago... Leo "Apollo11" P.S. I just started with my brand new "North Carolina" and she is bleeding Credits (30.000 - 50.000 each game - but with 2 "Premium Consumables" = "Premium repair" + "Premium Heal" because fighting Tier X without those is futile). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanhal Alpha Tester 5,609 posts 5,569 battles Report post #3 Posted June 3, 2016 Maybe rewards for damage were nerfed again? XP for capping is enormous, but if you don't cap, even tons of damage are rewarded very poorly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OUH] General_Kunde Players 406 posts 6,632 battles Report post #4 Posted June 3, 2016 WG giveth (-25% repair costs), WG taketh silently (-20% income)! Seriously: No idea, but looks strange. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #5 Posted June 3, 2016 Most of your victims are lower tier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER Players 1,473 posts Report post #6 Posted June 3, 2016 Can someone pls explain why is the economy broken for the last few days? is it the new patch or? T9 and t10 games are impossible to play.. a very good game in my Zao today( as seen on the SS) , 160k dmg and only 156k credits earned and -113k total repair bill? for real? T10 is a joke, the repair cost are killing the game at that level. i rarely play that level anymore 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilJumpa Beta Tester 4,603 posts 7,488 battles Report post #7 Posted June 3, 2016 (edited) 1763 Base XP is not really that much, because you did most of your damage to BBs (percentage of ships HP counts), had no Decap points etc. just took a screenshot of today because I wanted to see the reduced repaircosts: Just have that one screenshot of that game. I did 110k damage , so a lot less, but shot at Cruisers and DDs a lot approx. same income and XP, difference I didn't die but had 25k HP left: Edit. You don't even bother to take the -repaircost Signal with you, go figure Edited June 3, 2016 by LilJumpa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilJumpa Beta Tester 4,603 posts 7,488 battles Report post #8 Posted June 3, 2016 T10 is a joke, the repair cost are killing the game at that level. i rarely play that level anymore That is good news, thank you 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T3SLA] Aurelios_zer0 Beta Tester 23 posts 9,133 battles Report post #9 Posted June 3, 2016 had a 100k game in a t6 budyonny and had over 200k credits from that game, so something is really fucked up .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #10 Posted June 3, 2016 Hm. Guess I'll keep my Yamato and Montana in port for a while. I really don't know what to do in order to make it a bit profitable. As I see the screens of OP I'm at a loss. A victory, decent damage (even considering "easy" targets) and still a huge loss?? Even with premium he would have had no profit. My point is I'm not afraid to have something at stake or making a loss if I screw up ingame. But being sure that no matter what I'll do, it's going to have a negative outcome and the only way to keep that in check is to sit back, camp and let the reds cap out is not my idea of a fun game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER Players 1,473 posts Report post #11 Posted June 3, 2016 1763 Base XP is not really that much, because you did most of your damage to BBs (percentage of ships HP counts), had no Decap points etc. just took a screenshot of today because I wanted to see the reduced repaircosts: Just have that one screenshot of that game. I did 110k damage , so a lot less, but shot at Cruisers and DDs a lot approx. same income and XP, difference I didn't die but had 25k HP left: Edit. You don't even bother to take the -repaircost Signal with you, go figure What ship, what tier...bit pointless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilJumpa Beta Tester 4,603 posts 7,488 battles Report post #12 Posted June 3, 2016 What ship, what tier...bit pointless go figure... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FIFO] ilhilh [FIFO] Beta Tester 2,451 posts 7,514 battles Report post #13 Posted June 3, 2016 (edited) F2P player loses money at tier 10 shocker. p.s. also read what LilJumpa said about targets damaged. Edited June 3, 2016 by ilhilh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T3SLA] Aurelios_zer0 Beta Tester 23 posts 9,133 battles Report post #14 Posted June 3, 2016 F2P player loses money at tier 10 shocker. p.s. also read what LilJumpa said about targets damaged. you are a F2P player aswell, so shut up.. EVEN with premium that would be +50% credits, adn that would still make me at a loss of -70k credits in repairs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IDDQD] von_chom Alpha Tester 3,465 posts 11,649 battles Report post #15 Posted June 3, 2016 you are a F2P player aswell, so shut up.. but the difference is that one is crying and the other one not.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #16 Posted June 3, 2016 So what? Better luck next time. Go for DDs, they give more money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Egoleter ∞ Players 4,046 posts Report post #17 Posted June 3, 2016 I see no problem with the OPs screenshots. Numbers seem to add up to what I would expect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T3SLA] Aurelios_zer0 Beta Tester 23 posts 9,133 battles Report post #18 Posted June 3, 2016 but the difference is that one is crying and the other one not.... look at my profile and see how many games i played in my Zao(with and without premium), this low amount of credits is like playing a t4-t5 game and not at a t10 victory with this much dmg.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FIFO] ilhilh [FIFO] Beta Tester 2,451 posts 7,514 battles Report post #19 Posted June 3, 2016 you are a F2P player aswell, so shut up.. EVEN with premium that would be +50% credits, adn that would still make me at a loss of -70k credits in repairs 1) No I'm not. 1.1) It wouldn't matter if I was as I wouldn't whine about losing credits at tier 10 if I was a F2P player. 2) I won't shut up (work on your manners). 3) Your maths sucks. I did 0 maths and can tell you that 70k loss is wrong. I just looked at your screenshot and you would have lost 35k with premium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zed_Von_Toza Players 326 posts 1,155 battles Report post #20 Posted June 3, 2016 T10 is a joke, the repair cost are killing the game at that level. i rarely play that level anymore I'm a noob and no where near the top tiers yet. But isn't what you are saying WG's strategy anyway? They don't want everyone playing at the top tiers all the time. Eventually the game would just get top heavy, and there would be no experienced players at the lower levels to show us noobs how much we still have to learn. By 'fixing' the economy, you can only take out your top tier ships every few battles, because you have to fund them from the profits you make at lower tiers. I know that sounds unfair, after all you've worked hard to get to T9-10 and when you get there you cant afford to take them out all the time. Not trying to take sides, just saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T3SLA] Aurelios_zer0 Beta Tester 23 posts 9,133 battles Report post #21 Posted June 3, 2016 1) No I'm not. 1.1) It wouldn't matter if I was as I wouldn't whine about losing credits at tier 10 if I was a F2P player. 2) I won't shut up (work on your manners). 3) Your maths sucks. I did 0 maths and can tell you that 70k loss is wrong. I just looked at your screenshot and you would have lost 35k with premium. 1. Losing credits at T10 is a very big thing, since getting a t10 is the goal of getting that one ship you love and wanna play with, only to get it and realise that you need to make 200k dmg per game to not LOSE too much credits.. 2. If you don't have any useful information about the topic and you are here just to flame and make fun of people who got no premium time, don't comment anything. 3. math wise, the loss would be 38K, which brings me to the point of this topic. If you lose so much credits per game, even with premium and so much dmg at a t10 match, why would you even wanna play it? Why bother spending a lot of time and effort to grind your way to a t10 only to leave it at port? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilJumpa Beta Tester 4,603 posts 7,488 battles Report post #22 Posted June 3, 2016 So this is actually a pure whine thread then. The answer was already given by some people but you don't want to hear it I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T3SLA] Aurelios_zer0 Beta Tester 23 posts 9,133 battles Report post #23 Posted June 3, 2016 So this is actually a pure whine thread then. The answer was already given by some people but you don't want to hear it I guess. basically what you told us is that 10k damage on a BB gives you less money then 10k dmg on a DD.. If that would be true, why would anyone bother to shoot CA or BB? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilJumpa Beta Tester 4,603 posts 7,488 battles Report post #24 Posted June 3, 2016 This is WGs business and game model ito: - earn money - keep all tiers populated And yes it is true that your base XP is low in that game, while you had a reasonable amount of damage, because: - shooting lots of BBs - shooting BBs that were lower tier - no cap/decap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Egoleter ∞ Players 4,046 posts Report post #25 Posted June 3, 2016 1. Losing credits at T10 is a very big thing, since getting a t10 is the goal of getting that one ship you love and wanna play with, only to get it and realise that you need to make 200k dmg per game to not LOSE too much credits.. 2. If you don't have any useful information about the topic and you are here just to flame and make fun of people who got no premium time, don't comment anything. 3. math wise, the loss would be 38K, which brings me to the point of this topic. If you lose so much credits per game, even with premium and so much dmg at a t10 match, why would you even wanna play it? Why bother spending a lot of time and effort to grind your way to a t10 only to leave it at port? basically what you told us is that 10k damage on a BB gives you less money then 10k dmg on a DD.. If that would be true, why would anyone bother to shoot CA or BB? It is true. The percentage of damage you have done to a ship is what matters. You get the same XP for a TX DD kill as you'll get for a TX BB one. Having high tier players come down to the nether regions to earn the money for the high tiers, as well as to keep the lower tiers alive and well played, is not bad game design. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites