kingduckling Players 187 posts 6,035 battles Report post #1 Posted June 2, 2016 (edited) Alright ladies lets talk options. For the second part of the ranked(tiers VI-VII), because you know thats where its at. 1.Battleships- Bellow there is a table with some relevant-ish stats ,but without any commander skills or equipment. HP Guns Rudder shift AA Reduced Torp dmg Nagato 65000 410mm, 20.5km 11 sec 49 Rating 27% New Mexico 53200 356mm, 14.9km 13.5 sec 44 Rating 42% Trolorado 50100 406mm, 17.6km 12.9 sec 55 Rating 39% HMS Warspite 53800 381mm, 16.3 km 14.2 37 Rating 22% I know what you are thinking what is New Mexico and Warspite even doing on the table. I cant remember why i put Warspite there, but the New Mexico is a beast it has more HP than Colorado and better torpedo reduction! Oh and the guns you might think but but but dokuling wtf man.......356mm will do fine even with a base of 15.8km it has roughly the same dps as than the Colorado and will melt cruisers more efficiently. Least maneuverable viable ship but the best armored by far when it comes to citadel. Nagato has the most HP and most accurate guns but horrid torp protection......basically you get hit by 2-3 torpedos during a match and you lost your HP advantage. Now the thing with the nagato is i remember clearly getting citadeled from the front several times while playing it and it sucked. Now i know a lot of fangirls have secondary build fantasies for ranked, but its not gonna happen. Trolorado, not even thinking it, except the better AA and slightly better rudder shift New Mexico is straight up better. Has higher caliber but on par with NM dps. Personally im tempted hard by the New Mexico, the question for this ranked season is: Will it be dominated by CV's? AA is pretty poor at tier 7, Pensacola is a citadel cake and Cleveland doesnt get Pensacola lvl hp(like NM compared to Colorado). York is a boat with bad guns and Schors turn like a fat truck. Not to mention CV play is decently balanced at tier 7...... Ok saipan might take the cake i guess if players are equally skilled. Questions? Edited June 3, 2016 by kingduckling 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gm3ntor Players 294 posts Report post #2 Posted June 3, 2016 Nagato is by far the best BB for this season. I played the t7-t8 bracket in 2nd season with Nagato and was in top 3 in almost 80% of the games. I owe her the 1st rank. Also, Schtshors(?), even tho she turns like a *fat truck* reks any dd and CL/CA in her tier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T_D_G] B010011A Players 389 posts 9,821 battles Report post #3 Posted June 3, 2016 I'll play fuso, nurnberg, schors ( 8 fires average per game, its such a beast when played well), myoko and budyonni. Plenty of variety on gameplay and i wont get bored so far. Fuso is capable of facing Lolorados and Nagatos so no problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingduckling Players 187 posts 6,035 battles Report post #4 Posted June 3, 2016 Nagato is by far the best BB for this season. I played the t7-t8 bracket in 2nd season with Nagato and was in top 3 in almost 80% of the games. I owe her the 1st rank. Also, Schtshors(?), even tho she turns like a *fat truck* reks any dd and CL/CA in her tier Nagato is a good ship its true, still armor could be better. Schors will not be that great though, yeah velocity is good and has flat arc, it also means it cant find a good islands to take cover/fire at enemies, but that depends on map pool. DD smoke will be all over the place since everyone will most likely use premium consumables . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #5 Posted June 3, 2016 I would go either of the USN ships personally and hope my game awareness is good so I drive to the right place a there's no changing course anytime soon. Nagato and Warspite are (slightly) faster so will let you have a little more map control. Nagato's gun range could be key if you're familiar with how they shoot at longer ranges. Both these ships seem to have similar armour issues where the odd shot will utterly rekt them though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingduckling Players 187 posts 6,035 battles Report post #6 Posted June 3, 2016 I would go either of the USN ships personally and hope my game awareness is good so I drive to the right place a there's no changing course anytime soon. Nagato and Warspite are (slightly) faster so will let you have a little more map control. Nagato's gun range could be key if you're familiar with how they shoot at longer ranges. Both these ships seem to have similar armour issues where the odd shot will utterly rekt them though. Oh son not even close, rangeand speed for bb's will be almost nothing. If the game starts with cap trade the team with faster cap will defend. If you support/snipe you will be almost useless. I doubt there will be any map controlling in BB's and just protecting caps or pushing into caps. Rank 10 will be a though mistress now, since theres no more star bumb at each rank up and the higher you get the harder it will get, and people will not give away advantages and team position will be fairly decent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gm3ntor Players 294 posts Report post #7 Posted June 3, 2016 Nagato is a good ship its true, still armor could be better. Schors will not be that great though, yeah velocity is good and has flat arc, it also means it cant find a good islands to take cover/fire at enemies, but that depends on map pool. DD smoke will be all over the place since everyone will most likely use premium consumables . Yeah but she has the speed! Turning-Angling-Turning-Shooting is a piece of cake What cruiser would u take then? Yorck and Pensa are a big NO! Myoko would be good but 15sec reload... Atlanta and Indianapolis are.. well not everyone has them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #8 Posted June 3, 2016 Yeah but she has the speed! Turning-Angling-Turning-Shooting is a piece of cake What cruiser would u take then? Yorck and Pensa are a big NO! Myoko would be good but 15sec reload... Atlanta and Indianapolis are.. well not everyone has them i find colorado more forgiving compared to nagato. nagato gets pened on weird angles, while colorado has great armor that can avoid lots punishment and can brawl. just it is not great against fire starters.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingduckling Players 187 posts 6,035 battles Report post #9 Posted June 3, 2016 Yeah but she has the speed! Turning-Angling-Turning-Shooting is a piece of cake What cruiser would u take then? Yorck and Pensa are a big NO! Myoko would be good but 15sec reload... Atlanta and Indianapolis are.. well not everyone has them I doubt il go cruisers at all, but depends on really expection CV's to make big waves, possibly making atlanta useful. Indi is also citadel cake but at least has radar. If no Cv's Myoko can do pretty much everything so its the jack of all trades. The game style/play will be decided in the first minutes of the game so it depends on that mostly. Did you loose a ship, did you get the first cap point. Like if you loose a ship all the enemy has to do is get into a strong defensive position and chill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #10 Posted June 3, 2016 if i had to carry, i would chose these ships: for CV i would go with hiryu, and maybe saipan. ranger will be absolutely useless if you go against decent hiryu/saipan player for BB colorado, NM, nagato and fuso. anything can be good choice from those ships for CA i would take myoko as first choice, cleveland for second. indy is interesting option cause of radar, but i am meh about it. havent played budyonny/schors, but they could be viable option. nurnberg and yorck are too fragile to carry. for dd hatsu is obvious choice and mahan is also interesting. but cause of SA bug gunboats will suffer the most on small maps. kiev is situational and will depend on the choice of maps. if the maps are big kiev could be a good choice, and if they are small kiev will be a bad choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FTR] Krizmuz Players 780 posts 24,247 battles Report post #11 Posted June 3, 2016 Are there gonna be XP in ranked battles? I have some stock sheep that I'd like to grind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingduckling Players 187 posts 6,035 battles Report post #12 Posted June 3, 2016 (edited) if i had to carry, i would chose these ships: for CV i would go with hiryu, and maybe saipan. ranger will be absolutely useless if you go against decent hiryu/saipan player for BB colorado, NM, nagato and fuso. anything can be good choice from those ships for CA i would take myoko as first choice, cleveland for second. indy is interesting option cause of radar, but i am meh about it. havent played budyonny/schors, but they could be viable option. nurnberg and yorck are too fragile to carry. for dd hatsu is obvious choice and mahan is also interesting. but cause of SA bug gunboats will suffer the most on small maps. kiev is situational and will depend on the choice of maps. if the maps are big kiev could be a good choice, and if they are small kiev will be a bad choice. Fuso by far worst BB's, dunno why people like it so much. On DD's though like in previous ranked battles, Blyskawica and Russian DD's take the cake. You can easily harras other dd's from caps, you get detected first in case of Hatsu and he notices, but you charge and he will get spotted before turning 360 and you can punish him hard, unless his team is right behind him. In season 2 i think i would almost always on land of fire go around with kiev and flank hard with aft and usually distracted 1-2 cruisers to chase me because id first start harrasing bb's, that should be almost instawin, 2 cruisers chasing a dd. You'd never pull that with a hatsu. Edited June 3, 2016 by kingduckling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingduckling Players 187 posts 6,035 battles Report post #13 Posted June 3, 2016 Are there gonna be XP in ranked battles? I have some stock sheep that I'd like to grind Yes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[3X] CosMoe Beta Tester 141 posts 21,402 battles Report post #14 Posted June 3, 2016 Got rank 1 in every season so far with BBs only: S1 Fuso, S2 NC, S3 Amagi. Prefer the Nagato (with Jack of all Trades captain skill) for S4. In the improbable case of many good CVs in ranked I'll go Kiev. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,562 battles Report post #15 Posted June 3, 2016 Hi all, I will play my "New Mexico" and "Colorado" (I hoped that I will be able to use my "Tirpitz" but Tier VIII is not allowed this time around)... Leo "Apollo11" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #16 Posted June 3, 2016 Are there gonna be XP in ranked battles? I have some stock sheep that I'd like to grind Just don t do this, you ll screw your teammates. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PST] Celandri [PST] Alpha Tester 483 posts 7,805 battles Report post #17 Posted June 3, 2016 well if you got fully upgraded ship but just not elited it go for it imoho, just not fully upgraded can hurt your team to much Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bazoroth Players 584 posts 22,820 battles Report post #18 Posted June 3, 2016 (edited) Just don t do this, you ll screw your teammates. The raging over ppl doing it and the high ammount of salt will be real. And they are right. Stock ships and ranked dont fit. I remember a game last season with a stock Amagi on our team. Obvious a wasted slot. Edited June 3, 2016 by Bazoroth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #19 Posted June 3, 2016 (edited) I'm gonna take my favorite Colorado...it is one of my best BBs after all....take a NM and see which one wins...oh and hiryu of course Edited June 3, 2016 by domen3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #20 Posted June 3, 2016 Fuso by far worst BB's, dunno why people like it so much. On DD's though like in previous ranked battles, Blyskawica and Russian DD's take the cake. You can easily harras other dd's from caps, you get detected first in case of Hatsu and he notices, but you charge and he will get spotted before turning 360 and you can punish him hard, unless his team is right behind him. In season 2 i think i would almost always on land of fire go around with kiev and flank hard with aft and usually distracted 1-2 cruisers to chase me because id first start harrasing bb's, that should be almost instawin, 2 cruisers chasing a dd. You'd never pull that with a hatsu. fuso is excellent ship, you just need to know how to use it. like i said if maps are big like land of fire then it is good choice, if maps are like fault line then kiev will be a bad choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #21 Posted June 3, 2016 Fuso has terrible armour and has Izumo like concealment. I roulette l wouldn't take it into Ranked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FIFO] ilhilh [FIFO] Beta Tester 2,451 posts 7,514 battles Report post #22 Posted June 3, 2016 (edited) I'm not sure what rank I'll start at having finished 11 in the last season. Assuming I have to do some 5-6 ranked it will be Fuso all the way. When it gets to 6-7 I have quite a few options: Hiryu (lvl 5 skill), Saipan and Blyskawica. I do have the Mahan and Pensacola but I won't be using them. Then, I can re-buy Nagato/Colorado if I feel the need to do some battleshipping. Although, if I remember correctly Fuso is somewhat viable at tier 7 although it does to a certain extent rely on the enemy BBs being a bit average. p.s. whilst I can see a role for cruisers in ranked... it is not a role I will be filling! Edited June 3, 2016 by ilhilh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuccaneerBill Players 513 posts 11,276 battles Report post #23 Posted June 3, 2016 Colorado actually has quite a lot of HP because its HP repair is so darn good. Also it takes les s damage from fire n flooding because its HP are lower than Nagato. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Gojuadorai Players 2,832 posts 21,712 battles Report post #24 Posted June 3, 2016 if you include the new mex and warspite you should have included the fuso. 12 guns is nothung to laugh at im trying the nagato but am unsure if to set her up allsecondaris (16p cap) or alll mainguns/survivability. depending on results ill will switch back to the fuso cause T7 cruisers still cant take the 12 shellls from a fuso. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Msiiek Players 465 posts 5,330 battles Report post #25 Posted June 3, 2016 Błyskawica with 15+ level captain will be best, otherwise I would go for Fuso/Colorado. Nagato to weak armor that catches citadels from any angle. For carriers it's the hiryu of course and for cruisers I would pick Myoko. But will probably derp some battles with Atlanta Share this post Link to post Share on other sites