Plays poorly report! Whole Team!

[SenkiMegisValaki]

Dear Community,

Why we don't have a report of plays poorly for the team as well?

My whole team in EU server went camping away! None of them responded for 'request support!' - 5 times, even SOS at least 5 times. They were camping 10 km in the corner behind me while I was playing with all the enemies. After 8 minutes were the first kill! I were with my New Mexico, which was not enought against Fuso, New Mexico, ARP Haruna and others as well. Plus a DD on me. My team was extremely crap! I won't report 1-by-1 each of them down plays poorly, but really all the others were just camping! Why can't we report that down?

Other team wasn't really great as well, but a game going 8 minutes when all are 20 minutes and almost nothing happens! That's really poor!

Thanks,

Alamos80

[The_Fear_Of_All_Sums]

You have a mini-map yes?

You knew you had no support, yet sailed off to face the entire enemy team by yourself. 

 

Who's a clever boy??? 

 

 

 

[Xevious_Red]

Well if it was a standard battle the usual tactic for most teams is to defend their base, since it's usually easier to kill the enemy as they arrive one by one. Which is why personally it's the most boring, and domination is much more interesting.

 

Sitting at the back camping is boring, but sailing off on your own is pointless - you'll clearly die quickly to no avail.

 

Unfortunately currently with standard battles attacking has no benefit until late game while defending does.

[krautjaeger]

We killed off the whole left flank, took out their carriers at range as well and three of their ships sailed in towards our cap as I blew up. But we had more health, bigger guns, more ships. No worries, right?

Me: Enemies going to cap us soon, someone fast go reset cap.

(nothing happens, our ships sails in to their cap circle and tries to cap. They have three ships just shooting HE and of course keeps resetting cap)

Me: They will just keep shooting HE at you while their teammates just cap us.

(no response, at all)

Me: Anyone alive?

(got the standard call 'Negative!')

Me: thanks for the loss guys

 

5 plays poorly handed out

 

Three of them could have reached and defended our cap if they turned around, even at my second attempt to alert them. Nope, cap the enemy! While I applaud having a team actually finding the cap circle, there are not many of those around anyway, there is also a counter to that which is capping us and resetting theirs. I wonder if it is too much for people to think about more than one thing at once... While a report-team function would have its use every now and then I'd rather have 63 more single reports.

[Ze_Reckless]

How shall I say this? You know, those reports don't do anything. They are just there so you can blow some steam off.

 

Online gaming will always be online gaming. You can't win all the time, more like 40%-60% depending on individual skill. That's what random teams do in random battles.

[Venatacia]

We just need a lot more reports because the amount we have now is pitiful. Everyday I could report 20+ more afk'ers who do nothing. Then probably 100 more for plays poorly, the yolo'ers, the BB players sat at the back, the DDs that rush in and die, the CA that rush in-front of the DDs and die, the CA that torp the DD in-front of them.... the list could go on.

 

I can't say we need the hole team reported, comes close sometimes but there are normally 2 to 5 players that plays well.

[AgarwaenME]

"If you don't know who the village idiot is, then it is you"

That pretty much fits someone who thinks his entire team should be reported for playing poorly.

[Admiral_noodle]

"If you don't know who the village idiot is, then it is you"

 

That pretty much fits someone who thinks his entire team should be reported for playing poorly.

 

Yep if your team all camps why go and die? Just farm as much damage as you can and see if you can get a lead in ships. Maybe then they might move forward. If you go off and die you're just making it worse. 

[SenkiMegisValaki]

You have a mini-map yes?

You knew you had no support, yet sailed off to face the entire enemy team by yourself. 

 

Who's a clever boy??? 

 

 

 

 

Hey clever boy, my team was 3-5 km behind me!

I was at D4, they were in A2-E3 - cruisers next to me, opposite campers were 16km distance from me - enemy ships. Those were BBs, which opened fire on me. My nearest team members were all Cruisers! Behind me 4 km distance our ARP Haruna - almost in range, but still camping further away.

Shooting was I tell you - 3 km from me a DD, missed me with 9 torps! In front of me, behind me shooting all his torps...

My team 95% they couldn't hit the DD and another Cruiser at D7! 10 km distance! Those long range ARP, New Mexico and another Tier V BB shoot me badly. I couldn't turn out as my camping friends were just practicing shooting!

So I expected 5 minutes before that support, but instead of staying with me they went out of range!

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

[edited]

[duoinvasion]

This sounds like the usual case of a potato team.

We can't do anything about it, so just stop playing for awhile or do a whole different tier bracket. Works wonders

[Andyphone]

Lately this is becoming worse it seems, don't know why.

 

[AgarwaenME]

Lately this is becoming worse it seems, don't know why.

 

 

observational bias

ego

cognitive dissonance

[Khitan]

 

observational bias

ego

cognitive dissonance

 

Possibly not - the same thing happened in tanks. 

As players get more experienced in ships and the group of players who can improve do so then the gap between them and the tomato players widens.

At the games beginnings everyone was on roughly the same knowledge level - but that changes as time and battles played and actions learnt from increases.

 

Ships is a lot more unforgiving than tanks in that it is more strategic than tactical - I'm noticing a lot more games being decided by strategy than individual tactics these days. And this is down to good players not just looking at the mini map but interpreting what is going on and taking advantage of how the battle is developing strategically to gain a tactical advantage.

[G3Virus]

Yea I have had a few of those teams to.

 

Today I had a domination match.

Everything went fine. I took a cap in my DD, we had 2 of 3 caps, more pints etc. What we didnt have was as many ships left.

They had 5 and we 4 ships.

So what our brainless team decided to do was to go up camping around the CV on the A line.

I was stuck in my Kamikaze R defending A and B.

Got my self a Kill defending B but got killed trying to retake B because the enemy team knew that staying in the caps defending them would win them the match so even there CV joined in and charged in to the B cap.

 

So in the end the point lead we had was erased, I could not defend two caps and died after some time since no ship on the A line was capable of effectivly reaching any target in the caps.

Our team failed to defend our CV so in the end there where on CC and one BB sitting on the A line getting owned.

 

All they had to do was to stick together and push in to the B cap to keep the point lead we had due to having more caps but instead they ran away and lost us the match.

 

One cant win by playing it safe like a chicken and leave the winning up to others.

 

Anyway I ended first in our team, well they sucked so no surprise realy.

 

There are tactical advantages on standard battle to camp in base and let the enemy come to you but on domination capping and holding caps is key to victory. You dont have time to sit around camping then!

[Andyphone]

 

Possibly not - the same thing happened in tanks. 

As players get more experienced in ships and the group of players who can improve do so then the gap between them and the tomato players widens.

At the games beginnings everyone was on roughly the same knowledge level - but that changes as time and battles played and actions learnt from increases.

That could be a valid explanation, I learned a lot playing from the game and from the others, now I notice many mistakes I did once for lack of knowledge or because I was playing only for myself. Also communication is the key: I don't understand what you do in the game, you tell me and we go from there... But many don't even seem to read the chat, maybe don't even understand english.

 

Those who say everyone can play how he prefers, that's not true... If you want to do that don't choose this type of game. Of course "reporting the whole team" (what's supposed to happen after?) is not the solution, it's a rant but understandable.

 

Ciao

 

[ColonelPete]

If your cruisers were next to you, it makes no sense to report the whole team.

[kfa]

Well if somebody shouts for support 5 times than SOS 5 times i will deliberately not help the moron spammer that is for sure.

[TekumzeWolf]

Well if somebody shouts for support 5 times than SOS 5 times i will deliberately not help the moron spammer that is for sure.

 

So if somebody desperately needs help and asks for it a few times you will ignore it because he's spamming? Don't you think it would be best to look at the map and see if he's really just spamming or he may actually need help?

 

As for potato squads.. I get most of them so you guys should be quite safe :|

 

I have messed up my fair share of games by not noticing one thing or the other but  I am a superman compared to some I see.

 

Here's a couple of examples:

1)  We have 4-1 DD advantage to start with. Great we'll have them spotted and be quite safe from ambushes.. right?

Nope. Within 3 minutes al our DDs are dead while the hostile DD is doing his work keeping us spotted and under fire.

 

2) Solomon Islands. With some help I clean up east side of the map. I tell a Tenryu to go after the carrier(which was north) while I take care of the Murmansk between the islands(I was in Kirov). I blow the Murmansk out of the water (gotta love the AP). All the while our 2BBs and a carrier move out of our own cap retreating from 2 hostile BBs and a DD. Our BBs were quite healthy from what I could see.

They don't even attempt to defend no matter how much I try to point out that we're gonna lose to capping.

 

So I go alone to try and defend (with 2k health). I reset it a couple of times but could not find the DD (main capper) since it would involve going around the island and exposing my broadside to their BBs.. I tried anyways... no luck. 

 

End result. 104k damage and a loss.

 

 

[bloomoon11]

That could be a valid explanation, I learned a lot playing from the game and from the others, now I notice many mistakes I did once for lack of knowledge or because I was playing only for myself. Also communication is the key: I don't understand what you do in the game, you tell me and we go from there... But many don't even seem to read the chat, maybe don't even understand english.

 

Those who say everyone can play how he prefers, that's not true... If you want to do that don't choose this type of game. Of course "reporting the whole team" (what's supposed to happen after?) is not the solution, it's a rant but understandable.

 

Ciao

 

 

On the contrary, I'd say if you're going to play a casual game in it's most casual pub mode then don't expect anything resembling teamwork, when it occasionally happens you should consider it a bonus.

 

That's why it's funny seeing the amount of whining on here about bad teams IN A CASUAL PUB GAME WITH GRIND/GEAR BASED MATCHMAKING.  Anybody who is genuinely bothered about high level gameplay will be playing other games.

[Andyphone]

 

On the contrary, I'd say if you're going to play a casual game in it's most casual pub mode then don't expect anything resembling teamwork, when it occasionally happens you should consider it a bonus.

 

That's why it's funny seeing the amount of whining on here about bad teams IN A CASUAL PUB GAME WITH GRIND/GEAR BASED MATCHMAKING.  Anybody who is genuinely bothered about high level gameplay will be playing other games.

Of course I am not expecting much and I am not the best teamplayer my self, but at least I try. That's why I think the logical fault is on the side of those who don't understand the importance of teamplay in this game and don't even try or even worse say "I play how I  prefer", don't understand if it's just kids, selfish or brainless people but oh well... I think WG could make some things better to help teamplay, probably they are working on it. Yes that's life, happens in other similar games as well and even in real life at work or playing sports so why complain, it's just a rant... we can rant about it sometime   They should open a forum section for the rants 

 

Ciao

 

[Defactio]

You have a mini-map yes?

You knew you had no support, yet sailed off to face the entire enemy team by yourself. 

 

Who's a clever boy??? 

 

 

 

 

It's called being a 'team' player, as opposed to a sheep.

 

You, obviously simply follow sheeple in real life. You 'do' what 'everyone else' does (probably to 'fit in').

 

After thousands of games, you tend to know (with each map) where the 'real' threat is. Just because you have 95% noobs in the team doesn't mean that you ignore that game-losing threat - you try to mitigate it - even if you are 'alone'.

 

It's called (in real life) INITIATIVE.

 

I'd rather be 'THICK' and a team-player than 'CLEVER' and a sheep.

 

Who's a clever sheeple then?

 

 

[krautjaeger]

I've given up, totally, on the teams. I just play, and f*** it if I lose or not. I ran in close with my Ishizuchi and quickly dispatched two cruisers and a DD with both secondaries and mains and heavily damaged two BBs. Then blew up. Watched a little as team ran around getting shot to pieces by the other team. We lost. I have officially stopped caring. Just going to sail now.

[The_Edge91]

I've given up, totally, on the teams. I just play, and f*** it if I lose or not. I ran in close with my Ishizuchi and quickly dispatched two cruisers and a DD with both secondaries and mains and heavily damaged two BBs. Then blew up. Watched a little as team ran around getting shot to pieces by the other team. We lost. I have officially stopped caring. Just going to sail now.

 

What he said...

 

Preserve your blood pressure. Admit [edited]will retard to the sky and back. Take a moment to laugh at the morons, as they present their Phoenix side on at 5km to a Wyoming and then die. Wins and teamwork is just a bonus

[Andyphone]

Sure. Only a little sad and frustrating when you try to keep your WR a little higher.

 

Ciao