[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,549 battles Report post #1 Posted May 28, 2016 Hi all, How do you guys feel about level of fun / enjoyment in WoWs in past 3+ weeks (of "Great Naval Battles")? For me the past 3+ weeks were the source of greatest frustration ever... My experience: #1 In 1 out of 5 games (i.e. 20%) the MM is pretty balanced (sometimes gives small favor - sometimes gives small disadvantage) but generally it is OK. The teamwork exists, the chat is useful and tactical / strategic decisions are agreed upon. In short it is great to play such games and I don't really mind if I win or lose because it is great play and great teamwork - all is OK here! #2 Unfortunately 4 out of 5 games (i.e. 80%) are pure horror from the start. There is no teamwork and there is no chat. Usually the MM is terrible (in "Domination" we get 1-2 DDs and enemy gets 3-4 DDs), we also often get 1-2 Tier IX / Tier X capital ships and enemy gets 4-5 Tier IX / Tier X capital ships (like 1x "Montana" + 2x "Tirpitz" vs. 2x "Montana" + 1x "Yamato")... Also there are BOTs, AFKers and campers. I swear that I have never ever seen so many BOTs (I have seen DDs going straight to enemy base in "Standard" game without ever replaying in chat and, of course, dying instantly). I have seen CVs going in the middle of the "Two Brothers" at the beginning of the game (also not replaying in chat at all) and dying immediately. I also had a game where me in "Kamikaze R" and friendly "Hatsuharu" defended the base in new map ("Twins" ?) and we had "Furutaka" AFK in our base for 15 minutes. When it got long range torped it woke up and started to go straight (not firing at all) - then it died from gunfire (it presented more nuisance for us than the enemy - it prevented us from safe torping). In one other game I saw "Des Moines" BOT where it stood still for 15 minutes and only when enemy got close and when "Des Moines" got hit it started moving in straight line (not firing at all again except from secondaries) - and dying immediately. The AFKers are also ever present - they, apparently, just gather numerical number of required games for GNB and simply sap the strength out of the team (i.e. 100% dead weight)... The campers are terrible as well... for example I saw Tier X "Montana" hiding behind island - after several inquiries in chat why he/she is not helping us the replay was: "I am just waiting here for the game to end"... Again, in short, those game are absolutely terrible and disheartening... pure nightmare... What are your experiences? Leo "Apollo11" 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COSTS] Hanszeehock Alpha Tester 3,692 posts 5,959 battles Report post #2 Posted May 28, 2016 Sad to say, I'm looking forward to the end of GNB. The play x number of battles missions were badly thought out. In future it should alway be play x number of battles and finish in top 6 of team, or do a minimum of x damage. 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CUPID] AndyTheCupid Community Contributor 310 posts 31,950 battles Report post #3 Posted May 28, 2016 Seen a fair few AFK and a few strange decisions but I've enjoyed the last 3+ weeks. I've played all across the tiers so seen a fair spread, I've only got the carrier mission left to complete so my level of enjoyment will drop until that's done but only as I am useless in CVs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SinkTheOthersNotMe Players 440 posts 5,824 battles Report post #4 Posted May 28, 2016 Same as yours, purely horrible MM and since I started playing more DD, especially Russian ones, I also get insulted by really bad players, luckily bots do not insult you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S0F] xeransa Beta Tester 169 posts 11,713 battles Report post #5 Posted May 28, 2016 They've introduced a system where you can get free stuff without doing anything (afking) and not implemented a system for punishing those players. Overall I've enjoyed the event but before they do something similar they need a fix to stop this exploit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger_Happy_Dad Beta Tester 6,753 posts 7,907 battles Report post #6 Posted May 28, 2016 Doing all the GNB missions feels like work....it's a bit too much imho. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Pekoe_Darjeeling Weekend Tester 2,385 posts 10,008 battles Report post #7 Posted May 28, 2016 I see no difference. And I'm not going to blame special events for my bad performance like some people like to do. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] Durin_VI Players 375 posts 49,991 battles Report post #8 Posted May 28, 2016 I see a difference...even less teamwork then usual, players and even divisions going in a straight line to a grave or are afk. All this leads to frustrations and that leads to very colorful chat 'conversations'... I like the idea of making the battles count when you end in the top 6-10, should take care of the worst trash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #9 Posted May 28, 2016 It's okay. I'm aiming for 500 and only play what I use to play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daki Weekend Tester 1,677 posts 20,268 battles Report post #10 Posted May 28, 2016 Doing all the GNB missions feels like work....it's a bit too much imho. Though if you are not chasing top diamond count it is also too easy to collect 600+ with all the "autocomplete" missions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SinkTheOthersNotMe Players 440 posts 5,824 battles Report post #11 Posted May 28, 2016 Big difference, WT 59% going down the drain. Useless teams insulting you to go cap (when you play DD) but going to hide in the corner. Already saw bad weekends but this one is the worst till now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JG4] JG4_sKylon Players 1,133 posts 20,992 battles Report post #12 Posted May 28, 2016 Besides Bots, AFK-holes and pure idiots there seems to be something new: People loading the map, you see their turrets moving... but up to 5 minutes they don´t play. What makes it especially enjoyable is that they´re mostly driving DDs. Next time WG does such an "event" and if it is designed like this one i stop playing until it´s finished. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waxx25 Players 1,296 posts 11,488 battles Report post #13 Posted May 28, 2016 I love these posts. Every event generates them. Since there is absolutely no change in how plebs play it goes to show that your tin foil hat has some holes in it. Stop blaming your own gameplay on the events.......pleb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] G01ngToxicCommand0 Beta Tester 2,177 posts 23,318 battles Report post #14 Posted May 28, 2016 To be honest the GNB is the reason for me putting the game away as soon as the event ends for the reasons the OP mentioned to be points of frustration and as THD says it feels like work and not the fun it was supposed to be and i support Hanszeehock in his hope for better missions in future events. These 4 weeks of grinding have felt exactly like that and the level of frustration rises with each battle which tells me that it is time to take a break and fortunately I only need the final 20 diamonds from next week's recurring 100k XP mission and I'm done with the GNB and can take a much needed break from the bots, campers, afk'ers and suiciders that have infested the game the past 4 weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KOOKS] krautjaeger Modder, Beta Tester 1,514 posts 3,350 battles Report post #15 Posted May 28, 2016 Events are the worst. One of the reasons I rarely plat WoT these days as well. I am begging for a month without any bonus what so ever so only people that really want to play, plays. Sadly for most humans, they will choose the path of least resistance. "Do I seriously need to play 500 games? No, I make a macro that just chain plays some games, drive out somewhere shoot something and die. When I wake up tomorrow maybe I'll get 200 done" or they download a bot. Or manually, chain up four DDs, enter game, suicide, exit, play next one, rinse and repeat. Then you have those that just sails around shooting at things, stuff, ships too but never ever bother with cap. At all. Cap is a useless circle that no one knows why it's there. Silly thing. I can not count how many effing times today I have asked people to help cap. Yesterday I sailed in with my BB to cap, because the DDs were at the corners of the map searching for the carrier. All of them. And we lost. I really wonder if these are real people playing, and if so I fear for the future of humanity... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #16 Posted May 28, 2016 For me it has been about the same enjoyment-wise. The lower quality of play has been noticeable, but it's made up for by me not caring as much since I'm doing mainly lower tiers and premiums. If I wasn't actually trying to complete the missions and just played like normal with the ships I'm currently grinding, I would probably not have had as much fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,549 battles Report post #17 Posted May 28, 2016 Hi all, I love these posts. Every event generates them. Since there is absolutely no change in how plebs play it goes to show that your tin foil hat has some holes in it. Stop blaming your own gameplay on the events.......pleb "waxx25" you have fantastic results in WoWs - my hatt off to you - you are SUPERB! But, please note that although you have overall WinRate of magnificent 67.06% in 3,846 games your solo (i.e. when you played without Division) WinRate in 1,385 games is 56.39% ... Therefore this only reinforces sad truth that single player (without superb 2-3 man Division) can't do much especially during events when there is huge influx of players without any real clue about tactics/strategy and gameplay... Leo "Apollo11" 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noobsplatter Players 303 posts 3,401 battles Report post #18 Posted May 28, 2016 Hi all, "waxx25" you have fantastic results in WoWs - my hatt off to you - you are SUPERB! But, please note that although you have overall WinRate of magnificent 67.06% in 3,846 game your solo (i.e. when you played without Division) WinRate in 1,385 games is 56.39% ... Leo "Apollo11" It`s harder to carry all those potatoes all alone you know That said, if you are mad and tired of the game, just take a break. I am on a long break, not because I got omgthisgamemakeumesupermad but it just turned out to be a lot of nice weather and then Fallout 4 dlc and Doom so wows got to collect dust for now. And when I return I will get rid of the rust and return to my beloved khapparovsk. Bonus, typical khapparovsk gameplay: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waxx25 Players 1,296 posts 11,488 battles Report post #19 Posted May 28, 2016 Hi all, "waxx25" you have fantastic results in WoWs - my hatt off to you - you are SUPERB! But, please note that although you have overall WinRate of magnificent 67.06% in 3,846 games your solo (i.e. when you played without Division) WinRate in 1,385 games is 56.39% ... Therefore this only reinforces sad truth that single player (without superb 2-3 man Division) can't do much especially during events when there is huge influx of players without any real clue about tactics/strategy and gameplay... Leo "Apollo11" so youre saying 56% win rate playing solo is weak?......youre funny. 56% shows that playing solo you can make a huge difference in a 12 man team. And stop hating onbthe divisions you pleb. Not my fault you have no friends. Edit: average win rate in ships is what? 48-49%. Playing alone i can augment that by 7-8% which means that even with all the afk/bots/hax/events out there a single player can and does make a difference. Imagine my win rate if i did the low tier seal clubbing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TES6L] Hawker_gb Players 283 posts 14,329 battles Report post #20 Posted May 28, 2016 Hi all, "waxx25" you have fantastic results in WoWs - my hatt off to you - you are SUPERB! But, please note that although you have overall WinRate of magnificent 67.06% in 3,846 games your solo (i.e. when you played without Division) WinRate in 1,385 games is 56.39% ... Therefore this only reinforces sad truth that single player (without superb 2-3 man Division) can't do much especially during events when there is huge influx of players without any real clue about tactics/strategy and gameplay... Leo "Apollo11" Here is much easier to achieve high WR in platoons then in WoT. After all,its just not finished arcade shooter. Dont expect WITP level of players. BTW,did you left WITP? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meneleus Players 596 posts 7,522 battles Report post #21 Posted May 28, 2016 Doing all the GNB missions feels like work....it's a bit too much imho. Depends on what you are aiming for I suppose. If you desire to finish every mission then yes, I suppose it can be, though one can earn plenty of diamonds without investing a large amount of time I think. Regarding the OP I must day I have not noticed much difference besides the occasional player holding fire until an enemy can be sunk by him on one salvo to bag the kill. Ah well, what else is new ;) Cheers, M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,549 battles Report post #22 Posted May 28, 2016 Hi all, Then you have those that just sails around shooting at things, stuff, ships too but never ever bother with cap. At all. Cap is a useless circle that no one knows why it's there. Silly thing. I can not Yesterday I sailed in with my BB to cap, because the DDs were at the corners of the map searching for the carrier. All of them. And we lost. I really wonder if these are real people playing, and if so I fear for the future of humanity... I had exactly the same experiece... I had to CAP with my "Colorado" on several occasions lately because of the very same reasons you wrote above... The satisfaction in one of such games was that I got: "Thanks for trying - at least someone understands how WoWs works!" in chat (he must have been as frustrated as I was)! BTW, map "North" with "Domination" 4 CAPs - we have 3 DDs and enemy has 4 (i.e. big disadvantage due to MM at the start). Two of our DDs are in Division and they not even trying to CAP at all - they hunt enemy BBs 10-15 km from nearest CAP to get their precious kills. We pleaded and asked for help - but there was never a reply - I had to CAP in my "Tirpitz" all alone on two CAPs and our single good DD was trying the other two CAPs - once we died it was all over... Leo "Apollo11" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Loran_Battle Beta Tester 1,245 posts Report post #23 Posted May 28, 2016 so youre saying 56% win rate playing solo is weak?......youre funny. 56% shows that playing solo you can make a huge difference in a 12 man team. And stop hating onbthe divisions you pleb. Not my fault you have no friends. Get of your high horse would you? And I throw my money in with Leo here. The gameplay HAS devolved over the past weeks. And don't tell me the fact that every game has at least 2 afk ppl in it is normal. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FTR] Krizmuz Players 780 posts 24,232 battles Report post #24 Posted May 28, 2016 statbabbies go to war expect a 39 pages thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,549 battles Report post #25 Posted May 29, 2016 Hi all, Here is much easier to achieve high WR in platoons then in WoT. After all,its just not finished arcade shooter. Dont expect WITP level of players. BTW,did you left WITP? Hello "Hawker" - good to see you here! I still play WitP-AE (and WitE) when I can... but work was enormous this and past year (with all refugees/immigrants)... the WoWs is great "release valve" I can resort to after hard day in the office (and it takes 20 minutes for one game - not 1-2 years PBEM like we did with UV, WitP, WItP-AE, WitE, WitW)... Leo "Apollo11" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
