[POMF] Zafkiel_Sama WoWs Wiki Team 389 posts 4,206 battles Report post #1 Posted May 27, 2016 Hi !!! Well, first post in this forum, so sorry for any mistakes i do. I will ask this directly, what do u think its the best premium withing the 30 euros margin? I have been looking up a lot , and i am actually between the USS Texas, the UK Warspite and the URSS Molotov. Any opinion u can give about it? Ty 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #2 Posted May 27, 2016 Hi. I would recommend the Texas from the above given you have some experience with US BBs already. Warspite is a special ship which takes a while to learn to play. Molotov is extremely unforgiving of mistakes in angling, position and general cruiser play. You've not played cruisers above tier 3 yet so I'd suggest avoiding at present. I'd also recommend Murmansk - but get to Phoenix and Omaha in the tech tree first to see if you'll like her. Based on your experience so far Texas would be the best for (I assume you liked playing Wyoming?) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilJumpa Beta Tester 4,603 posts 7,488 battles Report post #3 Posted May 27, 2016 Hi there. It is hard to give you very good advice, since you only have played 100 battles so far, so your in full learning mode at the moment and you have only seen Tier 4. The Texas would be a ship that you could judge a little bit, since it has some things in common with the Wyoming. The other two ships are different. Warspite has very slow turning turrets and for its tier, a low range. So you have to know what you are doing and where you are going to have fun and good results in it. The Molotov is a completely different playstyle and not even you can tell at the moment if you like that. My advice: Play some more battles and level to Tier 6 in one line , to see the opponents you will be facing there. And also try cruisers first, maybe the RU line up to the Kirov, to get a feel for these. Other alternative would be the Murmansk which is comparable to the Omaha (US T5 Cruiser) and you already get a glimpse of this playstyle with the phoenix at Tier 4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warlock07rox Beta Tester 358 posts Report post #4 Posted May 27, 2016 Only advice I can give is keep your money because the ship you buy probably won't be the same ship in a few patches time . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Zafkiel_Sama WoWs Wiki Team 389 posts 4,206 battles Report post #5 Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) Well, i was also looking at the Atago, but with the tips u guys gave me i may better play some more games until T6 and decide maybe? Also, What do u think about the Atago ? Ty again :p Edited May 27, 2016 by Zafkiel_Sama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #6 Posted May 27, 2016 Well, i was also looking at the Atago, but with the tips u guys gave me i may better play some more games until T6 and decide maybe? Atago is expensive and fairly hard to use. You will get rekted if you go into a T8+ game without any prior experience. I'd grind normal ships until you are comfortable with them then get a Prem as a reward for yourself. I don't consider myself worthy of any Prem ship until I've reached it's corresponding tier by grinding. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNAF] HMS_Worcester Beta Tester 1,609 posts Report post #7 Posted May 27, 2016 I don't consider myself worthy of any Prem ship until I've reached it's corresponding tier by grinding. I think that is a very good attitude to have. I rarely take my Tirpitz out because of a mixture of not enjoying high tier battles but also not really having the skill level for that tier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Kenjiro_ [THESO] Players 991 posts 12,433 battles Report post #8 Posted May 27, 2016 If you only played up to tier 4, you'll be butchered in a T8 cruiser. Atago is a good ship but you need more experience to play and enjoy her... I suggest you get Murmansk or Texas depending on what class you wanna play... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #9 Posted May 27, 2016 I think that is a very good attitude to have. I rarely take my Tirpitz out because of a mixture of not enjoying high tier battles but also not really having the skill level for that tier. Thnx, I didn't buy the Tirp until I had alot of NC/Amagi games. The player makes the ship (p2w arguments aside). Of course if all were like me then WG might have gone bust long ago!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Zafkiel_Sama WoWs Wiki Team 389 posts 4,206 battles Report post #10 Posted May 27, 2016 Thnx, I didn't buy the Tirp until I had alot of NC/Amagi games. The player makes the ship (p2w arguments aside). Of course if all were like me then WG might have gone bust long ago!!! hahhaa, sure xD. Well, then i will play some more games until i get to some high tier ( tier 7 -tier 8 gameplay ) And then judge ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NIKE] Xevious_Red Beta Tester 3,412 posts 7,888 battles Report post #11 Posted May 27, 2016 Best advice: Play lots of different ships, and save your money for a while. Going straight to tier 8 when you don't know above tier 4 will get you dead very fast and you'll hate it. It's also worth finding out what you like. If it turns out you hate cruisers for example then the atago is pointless. Same with tirpitz if you hate battleship dispersion. Main question though, is why do you want the premium ship? -If it's to earn lots of silver, then the atago and tirpitz are your best bets. Low tier premiums don't earn particularly more than anything else. -If it's to retrain captains then consider what nation it is - the blysk is nice for example but since there are no other polish ships it can't be used for retraining. By contrast, although the Atlanta is pretty derpy and disliked by most I find it useful for retraining US destroyer and cruiser captains. -Unique abilities. Some of the premium ships have unique abilities. Tirpitz for example is the only battleship with torps. -Collectors reasons. Up to you if this is important. For some people the warspite is a must have because of its history. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Zafkiel_Sama WoWs Wiki Team 389 posts 4,206 battles Report post #12 Posted May 27, 2016 Best advice: Play lots of different ships, and save your money for a while. Going straight to tier 8 when you don't know above tier 4 will get you dead very fast and you'll hate it. It's also worth finding out what you like. If it turns out you hate cruisers for example then the atago is pointless. Same with tirpitz if you hate battleship dispersion. Main question though, is why do you want the premium ship? -If it's to earn lots of silver, then the atago and tirpitz are your best bets. Low tier premiums don't earn particularly more than anything else. -If it's to retrain captains then consider what nation it is - the blysk is nice for example but since there are no other polish ships it can't be used for retraining. By contrast, although the Atlanta is pretty derpy and disliked by most I find it useful for retraining US destroyer and cruiser captains. -Unique abilities. Some of the premium ships have unique abilities. Tirpitz for example is the only battleship with torps. -Collectors reasons. Up to you if this is important. For some people the warspite is a must have because of its history. Well, i actually want the premium ships for retrain captains , silver isnt themost important feature for me. Also for the exp bonus, but mostly every ship as the same 50% bonus, so not an issue either. I also love the unique Tirpitz, but i think its just a savage to pay 50 euros for it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #13 Posted May 27, 2016 silver isnt themost important feature for me There will be a point when credits become the most limiting factor on your account if you plan to advance beyond t5. Not only repair costs etc (t8+) but also buying ships/upgrades will prove to be quite expensive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NIKE] Xevious_Red Beta Tester 3,412 posts 7,888 battles Report post #14 Posted May 27, 2016 Yeah the credits are essentially: Tier 5: best tier for credits earn vs repairs Tier 6: pretty good Tier 7. Earn money on a good game. Break even on a bad game. Lose money on a terrible game Tier 8: Earn money on a good game (but not as much). Break even on an average game. Lose money otherwise. Etc. For my amagi (tier 8) It usually breaks even. When I did 171K damage (and didn't sink) it earnt me 100k on a loss. Which I'd get from an average tier 5 game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Zafkiel_Sama WoWs Wiki Team 389 posts 4,206 battles Report post #15 Posted May 27, 2016 Yeah the credits are essentially: Tier 5: best tier for credits earn vs repairs Tier 6: pretty good Tier 7. Earn money on a good game. Break even on a bad game. Lose money on a terrible game Tier 8: Earn money on a good game (but not as much). Break even on an average game. Lose money otherwise. Etc. For my amagi (tier 8) It usually breaks even. When I did 171K damage (and didn't sink) it earnt me 100k on a loss. Which I'd get from an average tier 5 game Well i am a T5 ( Maximum tier ) jet player on Warthunder ( Dont let Wargaming know that i play Warthunder !!!) So i know how expensive a full repair in a bad game can be on higher tiers, but i usually have no problems in warthunder with silver . The only frustating thing was how expensive was to buy the damn T5, so it maybe happends here too ? I suppose so. well, lets suppose i get to T7 here, and i enjoy playing at "higher" tier, what would u guys recommend ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurbain Players 1,976 posts 2,773 battles Report post #16 Posted May 27, 2016 Hi !!! Well, first post in this forum, so sorry for any mistakes i do. I will ask this directly, what do u think its the best premium withing the 30 euros margin? I have been looking up a lot , and i am actually between the USS Texas, the UK Warspite and the URSS Molotov. Any opinion u can give about it? Ty Purely based on performance the Molotov would be the best choice, but it is the most difficult ship to play of those 3. As others mentioned it would be best for you to just continue grinding regular ships until you have reached the higher tiers. The main reasons to own a premium ship are captain re-training and credits, neither of which you should have much need for yet. Low-level captains are re-trained quickly and unlocking the profile ranks should provide you with a lot of credits. Once you have gathered more experience, you will A) Know if you will actually continue playing this game. Would be a shame if you spend some money on this game just to stop playing shortly after. High-Tier gameplay is quite different and you may not enjoy it. B) Have a better understanding of which classes you enjoy playing and what the premium ships will be capable of. C) Be prepared for the higher tiers. The best premium ships currently available for purchase are the Molotov, Tirpitz, Atago, Kutuzov and Murmansk. I recommend buying one of those 5 unless you are a big fan of a specific ship like the Texas/Warspite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XbodzioXplX Players 6,008 posts 7,043 battles Report post #17 Posted May 27, 2016 I have a felling that premium ships are not better or over powered. They are different, specialized. So if you want to buy a premium ships you can get more credits and you can train captains. But apart from that I think premium is another ship among another ships. And what you want is rather what class you like. I enjoy cruisers and I have Atago which in my opinion is very good ship and money maker - even in a bad battle you can still earn some money. As I said - premiums are moneymakers. So you can play other normal ships and you can get the same fun from them ;) AND!! You can read this very good reviews of premiums ships: http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/58236-mouses-compilaiton-of-guides-articles/page__pid__1423096#entry1423096 A lot of text yes, but you can have a good view at them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xerkics Beta Tester 1,218 posts Report post #18 Posted May 27, 2016 I quite liked Aurora when I had it but if you wanna make money the higher tier the better so essentially if you can only buy 1 them you'd wanna buy a tier 8 otherwise get a tier 5 like Texas which will be more forgiving then once you've seen tier 8s with your silver ships you can probably get something like the derpitz which is the best balanced premium tier 8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNAF] HMS_Worcester Beta Tester 1,609 posts Report post #19 Posted May 27, 2016 AND!! You can read this very good reviews of premiums ships: http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/58236-mouses-compilaiton-of-guides-articles/page__pid__1423096#entry1423096 A lot of text yes, but you can have a good view at them. I agree with that, the reviews by LittleWhiteMouse are fantastic. Of course if all were like me then WG might have gone bust long ago!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xerkics Beta Tester 1,218 posts Report post #20 Posted May 27, 2016 And definitely would not recommend warspite as first premium. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #21 Posted May 27, 2016 Little White Mouse does good reviews, I've made informed decisions from her reviews. As does Ichase on YouTube Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNAF] HMS_Worcester Beta Tester 1,609 posts Report post #22 Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) And definitely would not recommend warspite as first premium. I got the Warspite the second it came out purely because it is Warspite, but I agree she is NOT a newbie friendly ship. Edited May 27, 2016 by HMS_Worcester Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Zafkiel_Sama WoWs Wiki Team 389 posts 4,206 battles Report post #23 Posted May 27, 2016 Well, i am pretty much comparing my experience here as the experience i had on warthunder ( great time there ) . In warthunder, ( just cause is uppose you havent played it ) everyone was like " T5 is so much different it could be a diferent game mode " , well , as all other planes are prop planes, u could say so, but the second i touched those jet engines on high ( Top lv Battle rating, a T9 over here ) i just loved the gameplay, so i am expenting maybe the same here, thats why i am unconciously goign to premium high tiers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xerkics Beta Tester 1,218 posts Report post #24 Posted May 27, 2016 Well, i am pretty much comparing my experience here as the experience i had on warthunder ( great time there ) . In warthunder, ( just cause is uppose you havent played it ) everyone was like " T5 is so much different it could be a diferent game mode " , well , as all other planes are prop planes, u could say so, but the second i touched those jet engines on high ( Top lv Battle rating, a T9 over here ) i just loved the gameplay, so i am expenting maybe the same here, thats why i am unconciously goign to premium high tiers There is nothing wrong with getting a tier 8 from the start as long as you research it but you ll struggle at the start and your team might not be happy but it's your money. If you only got money for one buys tier 8. Derpitz is really hard to do bad in. You'll make more money but the games aren't as fun as tier 5 for example IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Zafkiel_Sama WoWs Wiki Team 389 posts 4,206 battles Report post #25 Posted May 27, 2016 Well, i actually think i dont wanna buy ships more expensive than 40 euros, so dunno . Tho my plans will mostly be buy 1 premium ship and no more, but who knows !!! There is nothing wrong with getting a tier 8 from the start as long as you research it but you ll struggle at the start and your team might not be happy but it's your money. If you only got money for one buys tier 8. Derpitz is really hard to do bad in. You'll make more money but the games aren't as fun as tier 5 for example IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites