Cheating and Illegal Modifications

[MrConway]

Greetings Captains,

 

We have an important news bulletin for you that you will surely enjoy!

 

We are happy to inform you that we have taken the next step in our struggle against the unwanted exploitation of our game mechanics through client modifications and outright cheats.

 

Thanks to our new detection mechanism, we were able to ban all players who were detected using forbidden game client modifications. The ban is only temporary, as we believe that people can change for the better. These bans will however serve as a final warning.

 

Should a player be caught by the system a second time, the game ban applied to his account will become permanent.

 

Please understand that we cannot disclose any details about how the system works, for obvious reasons.

 

At this point, we would like to remind all players that cheating is not cool. Verbal abuse in- or outside of the game is also not cool. If you have been using illegal modifications, please stop immediately, or risk losing access to your account.

 

As always, we welcome your feedback on this and other topics – leave it on the forums! If you encounter any issues you think are related to the operation of this system, please visit our Customer Support Center!

 

We would also like to mention that some other server clusters have decided to implement a 24-48 hour “punishment” on top of the ban, during which players are turned brown and all damage they do in battle is mirrored on them. In Europe we decided that this is not beneficial for the general team spirit of World of Warships and could potentially alienate those players in case they decide to stop cheating and go straight.

 

Action Stations!

 

 

[karsun]

[MaxxyNL]

In Europe we decided that this is not beneficial for the general team spirit of World of Warships and could potentially alienate those players in case they decide to stop cheating and go straight.

 

And this way Wargaming does not lose "potential" income those cheaters generate when they buy Premium Content.

 

WG EU decided it is beneficial for the general team spirit in World of Warships.

Beneficial for the Team Spirit or WG EU Wallet?

 

World of Warships can do without all the "rotten apples" that ruin the gameplay for all other (paying) players .

 

1. A cheaters is not forced to use cheats, that is their own decision

2. Teamkillers (not the ones who TK by accident) are not forced to kill allies

 

So, why not punish them as hard as possible by deleting their account?

 

WG EU Logic? 

 

 

[MrConway]

 

And this way Wargaming does not lose "potential" income those cheaters generate when they buy Premium Content.

 

WG EU decided it is beneficial for the general team spirit in World of Warships.

Beneficial for the Team Spirit or WG EU Wallet?

 

 

EU Logic? 

 

 

 

Well, aside from the fact that we generally like to avoid naming and shaming for rule violations, players marked by this system will either not play anyway, or if they do, negatively impact any game they are in.

 

While I personally would absolutely advocate punishing cheaters as vehemently as possible, I also think this would not have had any positive effect for the community as a whole. And as we are absolutely willing to permanently ban anyone caught a second time, I think the money argument becomes moot

[MaxxyNL]

Okay,

 

I hope the new "system" will work better then the old/current one.

 

A few days ago i was in a battle with 2 Minekazes in my team, when the following happened.

 

Minekaze 1:

At the start of the battle, this player TK'd 2 allies (1 Kongo + 1 Kamikaze R) on purpose, without getting pink.

This player finished the game with a -2.

 

Minekaze 2:

This player was on 3 kills when 1 of his torps hit an ally by accident doing some damage. He/she turned pink instantly.

 

Is that a system that is working as intended?

 

Again, cheats/teamkillers are not forced to cheat and/or teamkill, they are the ones that decide to cheat/teamkill so therefore should bear the consequences. 

 

 

 

[Takru]

It just MIGHT be helpful if you were at least disclosing what you do consider cheating. Is this something aimed against aim assist users? Against botusers? Are you referring to some mods?

[MrConway]

It just MIGHT be helpful if you were at least disclosing what you do consider cheating. Is this something aimed against aim assist users? Against botusers? Are you referring to some mods?

 

This initial wave of bans was primarily aimed at players using "aimbot" mods, as we have clearly and repeatedly stated that these are forbidden.

 

Generally, we consider anything a cheat that changes the way you play the game and gives you an unfair advantage over other players. Now that we have this detection capability, you can expect the rules to become more clearly defined.

[MaxxyNL]

This initial wave of bans was primarily aimed at players using "aimbot" mods, as we have clearly and repeatedly stated that these are forbidden.

 

And there are still bots/aim assist mods that seem to work with the current version of the game... 

[TValok]

And what are these "forbidden game client modifications" ?

[Vanhal]

 

This initial wave of bans was primarily aimed at players using "aimbot" mods, as we have clearly and repeatedly stated that these are forbidden.

 

Generally, we consider anything a cheat that changes the way you play the game and gives you an unfair advantage over other players. Now that we have this detection capability, you can expect the rules to become more clearly defined.

 

That's vague as hell, especially if we are talking about such dire conseqences. Lots of legit mods could be stretched into the "changes the way you play the game" and what is exactly "unfair advantage"? Make list of forbidden modification types, and definition of "changes the way" and "unfair advantage", even broad, without specific mods, because right now this sounds like kinda secret police thing.

[Lusty_Argonian_Maid]

meanwhile on RU claster

[MaxxyNL]

[Vogel]

What we need is an official "banned modification list" by mod type (i.e. aim assist, terrain remover, etc), so that we don't have any misunderstandings on this issue. I would also prefer that WG keep the process as vague as possible, so that we don't get an effective countermeasure any time soon.

 

Personally, I would prefer that the users caught using illegal mods the first time got their account wiped, as botting and aim assist (to a lesser degree) would warrant this punishment. 2nd time permaban is very nice though, as WG EU has been too lenient in the past.

[mickptd]

It's wise that Euro doesn't follow Russian region. I play on Russian server and that seems like an act of public obstruction. Cheaters do not see the change of the color for their names but other people do....

 

It's also a penatly for the team because cheater receives 100% damage back and dies. Just imagine your carrier dies in first minutes of the battle. 

 

Send them email, say you know they use a cheat and gonna be banned if they continue... easy??? it seems not.

[RedStorm1]

 

This initial wave of bans was primarily aimed at players using "aimbot" mods, as we have clearly and repeatedly stated that these are forbidden.

 

Generally, we consider anything a cheat that changes the way you play the game and gives you an unfair advantage over other players. Now that we have this detection capability, you can expect the rules to become more clearly defined.

 

So, aimbots do exist after all!!!

I thought they were no longer working since the last patches!!!!

 

(I thought that BOTS exist, not people with AIMBOTS)

 

 

 

 

[rafparis]

well, that explain why there is so few players online today...

 

Anyway, good that they are taking care of the problem, but the brown color thing and namingandshaming is too much, everyone can be stupid once...

[mickptd]

well, that explain why there is so few players online today...

 

It is not.. You see 1 person in 2-3 battles on Ru.

[Crooq_Lionfang]

Great move, WG! Everyone can make a mistake, so I think not making the first punishment a permanent ban is ok. Also, I'm not a big fan of marking cheaters in matches. If they got caught and served their ban, then welcome back to the community. Cheat again, get kicked out permanently. 

 

Of course any information about how the new detection system works needs to be kept a secret, though a little info how many people it cought would be interesting

[HariSeldon]

well, that explain why there is so few players online today...

 

Anyway, good that they are taking care of the problem, but the brown color thing and namingandshaming is too much, everyone can be stupid once...

 

Yeah, and they CAN, but also deal with the S*** color name for a while.

 

They should feel lucky that they dont lose the account (something I liked more that this mere punishment), if they are cheating they should feel very lucky to continue playing the game without a reset of the account.

 

In fact, what WG just do is "well, cheating was allowed until now if we caught you, only a 1 or 2 days penalty for all those months CHEATING", no, it was a real soft punish for people who spoils the fun of all others just for their own, and they have their fun, we might have ours.

 

 

Penalties HAVE to be very "lethal" otherwise cheating will be attractive because a 2 days penalty is something most cheaters will accept with no remorse.

 

Is a DISGRACE, we have cheaters, but is worse that WG EU refuse to give them a real pushiment and let us know the infractors. Is not N&S is retribution for the real cancer in online games, those are not gamers at all, are a bunch of people who stop gaming to be fun for all except them. N&S is for potential individuals who might do something wrong, these ones in the other hand are cheaters, and cheating have to be ZERO tolerance.

 

Shame on you WG, you allowed cheaters to root, and now you protect the infractors from the crowd. Now how we could know that their stats are real and not cheatstats? and why they should have tier10 ships when they have exploited the game to be there? RESET their accounts, that's what they deserve, nothing more, nothing less. I care nothing about their tears.

[Martaloc801124]

Good job WG!!! But what took from almost open Beta so long? Anyway im satisfied when this true.

[Toivia]

Well, this only reinforces my decision not to use any mods at all. But please, implement training rooms already. I'd really love to try what exactly would be the ideal way of behaving/aiming in the game.

[lobsterden]

how can aim bot even work with this gun dispersion??? sounds far fetched if you ask me. Is the aim bot capable to ignore such thing as there are so many ships that does 5 out 6 hits from 19km or even more best was 12 out of 12 from Fuso from 21km... tried to replicate it several times with success of 1 out of 12 or 0 out of 12 best was 3 out of 12. (x out of something is the number of hits compared to the barrels)

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

1) It's all great unless I get ban for using modded port or some other non cheat mods or crew voice mods :/

2) I bet it will take quite a lot of time to make it work. No hate here it's just that wg shows many times what they are capable of especially in wot. Even tho I hope this will actually hit those who cheat(here or there by using mods that gives them advantage vs other players) instead of random players using non cheat mods.

3) List of mods that are considered as cheat.

 

And yes I will use mods because without some of them the game is just blank for me and probably I would quit long ago.

[Bitnisse]

Great news.

[HMS_Worcester]

Unless I get banned for using a flag mod, I think this is a great idea.