Richydog Players 57 posts Report post #1 Posted May 21, 2016 Does anybody else think Destroyers have been given to much advantage in this game or is it just me, have had countless battles of late where they just sit hidden the entire match while firing off torps left right and center makes it impossible to hit them if you can not see them. And they are not hidden in smoke before some destroyer driver chirps in. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] AgarwaenME Beta Tester 4,811 posts 13,808 battles Report post #2 Posted May 21, 2016 Yes, a lot of new, bad, whiny and/or biased players think like that. And they're in most cases from 99% wrong to 99.9% wrong. Especially those buying their way up tiers before learning the basics. Or that farms their way up tiers in coop, and then gets surprised that their coop tactics doesn't work against people. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJ_Die Players 930 posts 9,329 battles Report post #3 Posted May 21, 2016 Does anybody else think Destroyers have been given to much advantage in this game or is it just me, have had countless battles of late where they just sit hidden the entire match while firing off torps left right and center makes it impossible to hit them if you can not see them. And they are not hidden in smoke before some destroyer driver chirps in. Well the problem is that you play coop a lot and thats competely different from PvP especially because youre not a great player.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FTR] Krizmuz Players 780 posts 24,247 battles Report post #4 Posted May 21, 2016 nah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richydog Players 57 posts Report post #5 Posted May 21, 2016 The problem is not in co-op they do not sit hidden the entire game in there. Only noticed it in PvP they can see my Cruiser as I keep getting the detection warning but the first you know that there is a Destroyer there is when you get the 2 second warning about torps and the destroyer stays hidden how can this be fare. So you are saying it is fine for it to sit hidden firing at me but I am not allowed to fire back, hmmm interesting. I think as soon as any weapon is fired they should be instantly visible unless in smoke of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #6 Posted May 21, 2016 Start playing destroyer and find out. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Ictogan Players 1,841 posts 7,432 battles Report post #7 Posted May 21, 2016 Without stealth DDs would be ridiculously underpowered. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richydog Players 57 posts Report post #8 Posted May 21, 2016 Without stealth DDs would be ridiculously underpowered. I get that, I have no problem with them being hidden, they can hide all they like for me, the point I am making is they should not be able to sit hidden while firing off torps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JG4] JG4_sKylon Players 1,133 posts 20,992 battles Report post #9 Posted May 21, 2016 Yes, they should. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ZES] Glyndis Players 5 posts 2,395 battles Report post #10 Posted May 21, 2016 Yes, a lot of new, bad, whiny and/or biased players think like that. And they're in most cases from 99% wrong to 99.9% wrong. Especially those buying their way up tiers before learning the basics. Or that farms their way up tiers in coop, and then gets surprised that their coop tactics doesn't work against people. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJ_Die Players 930 posts 9,329 battles Report post #11 Posted May 21, 2016 I get that, I have no problem with them being hidden, they can hide all they like for me, the point I am making is they should not be able to sit hidden while firing off torps. Why shouldnt they? you can dodge torps easily... Try playing them yourself and youll see...and for gods sake stop playing Coop and learn how to play properly in PvP... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richydog Players 57 posts Report post #12 Posted May 21, 2016 Why shouldnt they? you can dodge torps easily... Try playing them yourself and youll see...and for gods sake stop playing Coop and learn how to play properly in PvP... So you are saying it is Ok for me to come to your house and sucker punch you a couple of times while invisible because you should be able to dodge it ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #13 Posted May 21, 2016 So you are saying it is Ok for me to come to your house and sucker punch you a couple of times while invisible because you should be able to dodge it ? If the person in question had the ability to change his house instantly at will whenever he wanted, then yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Mayv Players 1,952 posts 7,021 battles Report post #14 Posted May 21, 2016 So you are saying it is Ok for me to come to your house and sucker punch you a couple of times while invisible because you should be able to dodge it ? You already said that your CA is being detected without other ships in range. That is the first sign a DD is there not the torpedoes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richydog Players 57 posts Report post #15 Posted May 21, 2016 If the person in question had the ability to change his house instantly at will whenever he wanted, then yes. But the person does not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richydog Players 57 posts Report post #16 Posted May 21, 2016 You already said that your CA is being detected without other ships in range. That is the first sign a DD is there not the torpedoes. Yes but pointless being told it is there if you can do nothing about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #17 Posted May 21, 2016 But the person does not Fortunately for you, you have a power of that magnitude when facing destroyers so I suggest you use it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Mayv Players 1,952 posts 7,021 battles Report post #18 Posted May 21, 2016 Yes but pointless being told it is there if you can do nothing about it Let me introduce you to the best torpedo dodging tools in the game. The keys "W, A, S, D". Torpedoes take a long time to reach a target, especially when compared to shells. Use these before the torpedoes are spotted and you will dodge most torpedoes. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Ictogan Players 1,841 posts 7,432 battles Report post #19 Posted May 21, 2016 Yes but pointless being told it is there if you can do nothing about it Just make sure you change course a bit occasionally. It will throw of the aim of the torps and thus you will have dodged them, often without ever even seeing the torps you dodged. And also consider locations where DDs probably are - they can't just teleport wherever they want to and thus is often possible to predict which direction the torps are coming from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimdorf Beta Tester 97 posts 1,294 battles Report post #20 Posted May 21, 2016 Yes, a lot of new, bad, whiny and/or biased players think like that. And they're in most cases from 99% wrong to 99.9% wrong. Especially those buying their way up tiers before learning the basics. Or that farms their way up tiers in coop, and then gets surprised that their coop tactics doesn't work against people. THIS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richydog Players 57 posts Report post #21 Posted May 21, 2016 Let me introduce you to the best torpedo dodging tools in the game. The keys "W, A, S, D". Torpedoes take a long time to reach a target, especially when compared to shells. Use these before the torpedoes are spotted and you will dodge most torpedoes. Erm I think somebody needs to go back and read the question rather than being facetious, I have no problem dodging torps getting pretty good at it actually. The point I was making is it would be nice to be able to fire back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fighting_falcon93 Alpha Tester 194 posts 1,638 battles Report post #22 Posted May 21, 2016 The point I was making is it would be nice to be able to fire back. DDs have no HP nor armor, that's why they gain the ability to have good concealment instead. And if the DD fires his gun at you he'll get spotted. I don't really see the problem here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Mayv Players 1,952 posts 7,021 battles Report post #23 Posted May 21, 2016 Erm I think somebody needs to go back and read the question rather than being facetious, I have no problem dodging torps getting pretty good at it actually. The point I was making is it would be nice to be able to fire back. Well you said that the problem was not being able to do anything about it. If not being able to shoot at the target is the problem are ships with a greater range a problem for you? How about CVs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJ_Die Players 930 posts 9,329 battles Report post #24 Posted May 21, 2016 So you are saying it is Ok for me to come to your house and sucker punch you a couple of times while invisible because you should be able to dodge it ? If you came into my flat I'd shoot you in the face ....but thats off topic Anyway you can easily dodge most if not all the torpedoes just by changing speed or direction from time to time which you would know if you played at least a couple destroyers capable of stealth torpedoing.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #25 Posted May 21, 2016 Erm I think somebody needs to go back and read the question rather than being facetious, I have no problem dodging torps getting pretty good at it actually. The point I was making is it would be nice to be able to fire back. So basically, you want destroyers to be visible as soon as they do anything. Nice. Amount of destroyer games played : 15. Only in PvE, and with US gunboats at tier2 and 3. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
