How does the accurasy buff of North Carolina feels?

[HipHopHippopotamus]

As the title says,can someone(from the pt) tell me if he/she noticed a significant difference playing NC,considering the buffs she received?Thank you.

[SBS]

When did she recieve buffs? The patch for today was a hot  fix, not a new update.

[chib1977]

Buffed in 5.6 ,which is currently on player test ,so he was asking if anyone tried it ,the hotfix wasn't even mentioned ! ,as for if its an improvement ,sorry no idea as yet ,after the hipper first too see the atlantic bow

[SBS]

Buffed in 5.6 ,which is currently on player test ,so he was asking if anyone tried it ,the hotfix wasn't even mentioned ! ,as for if its an improvement ,sorry no idea as yet ,after the hipper first too see the atlantic bow

 

Then why not check the Feedback section for the test on the forum? There are entire threads there for discussing such things.

[robihr]

cause it is easier to open a new thread than actually search information yourself

 

[chib1977]

 

Then why not check the Feedback section for the test on the forum? There are entire threads there for discussing such things.

Then why not tell him that instead of making out he's a clueless idiot ,it was a legititamate question which you shot down as being made up ,seems you need to keep up with the news so you dont come across as another inconsiderate [edited],which this forum seems to have plenty of ,manners cost nothing ,an a simple polite response isn't too much to ask for is it ! 

 Frankly im also somewhat suprised ,im pretty sure i remember you from WoWp forums where you seemed like a decent guy/girl ,so maybe i read it out of context ,if so my apologies.

[albinbino]

I dont know how NC is now with accuracy buff but let me tell that even with old gun accuracy i never had problems to make damage and to delete ships. Actualy i realy enjoyed grinding NC to Iowa. Played some 150 battles in it and it was fun. It is real power BB. Also credits income is buffed on NC in comparison to amagi,  probably due to expensive amminition for NC. This was my observation from both ships, no one said this to me officialy but it proven to me.

[HipHopHippopotamus]

Yeah seriously guys,i checked the public test feedback section and searched at google but i didnt find anything thats why i opened a thread here.No need to be a smartass....

[M8ii]

only secondary + AA gets buff from 4,5 km to 5 km

[N00b32]

Ok, why exactly does NC get the buffs ? I'm so confused about some of the things Wargaming is doing lately. I have a NC and i am perfectly happy with the way she performs (although the gun arcs and speed needed under 10 games to adapt to). So. Huh ?

 

I would be far more happy with carrier fun or DDs that actually are allowed to do anything. Like kamikaze. Only in high tier. I mean seriously, Kamikaze has a higher average damage than Kagero. Anyone ? No ? I need more skill and decrease my NC skill ? Yes, thanks. i assumed that much. 

[SpicierCptBB]

I tested the US BB's on the test server and I didn't notice any difference. Dispersion is exactly the same, its something in the code they changed but to me it feels exactly the same as on live. Its only a 0.1 or 0.2 increase, whatever that means.

 

The only real change I noticed are the gun arcs, you can have a better angle on your ship when you fire broadside.

 

 

[Unintentional_submarine]

I tested the US BB's on the test server and I didn't notice any difference. Dispersion is exactly the same, its something in the code they changed but to me it feels exactly the same as on live. Its only a 0.1 or 0.2 increase, whatever that means.

 

The only real change I noticed are the gun arcs, you can have a better angle on your ship when you fire broadside.

 

 

 

The sigma value has been improved, which relate to the dispersion pattern rather than the dispersion area. A higher sigma value means a tighter grouping in general.

[N00b32]

 

The sigma value has been improved, which relate to the dispersion pattern rather than the dispersion area. A higher sigma value means a tighter grouping in general.

 

Really ? This obviously has absolute top priority. 

[SBS]

Then why not tell him that instead of making out he's a clueless idiot ,it was a legititamate question which you shot down as being made up ,seems you need to keep up with the news so you dont come across as another inconsiderate [edited],which this forum seems to have plenty of ,manners cost nothing ,an a simple polite response isn't too much to ask for is it ! 

 Frankly im also somewhat suprised ,im pretty sure i remember you from WoWp forums where you seemed like a decent guy/girl ,so maybe i read it out of context ,if so my apologies.

 

Sorry if I came of a bit rude. Was not my intention. Was just trying to make sure if I understood correct, if he meant the public test or if I somehow had missed a patch/buff, as the accuracy buff has been rumored for a while.

 

Sadly can't say that I ever posted on the WoWp forum, as I only played that game a small amount in CBT. 

 

Yeah seriously guys,i checked the public test feedback section and searched at google but i didnt find anything thats why i opened a thread here.No need to be a smartass....

 

To give you an answer, but take it with a grain of salt as I have yet to play public test myself.

I saw Ichase stream the public test, and from what I could see with the dispersion, the Iowa and North Carolina had MUCH better dispersion. It was far more reliable at longer ranges and close ranges as well.

The shells seemed to land a lot closer together. Ichase also seemed impressed by the buff, so it doesn't seem to just have been me.

 

Ofcourse there is also the fact that NC now has secondary range of 5km while Iowa has 6km, and the AA got buffed as well. Never really got to see the AA in action, only saw it shread a Rangers planes, but that was to be expected. Overall, it seems like the 2 ships have become rather good ships, if not really good ships.

 

Hope this helped 

 

[Henning77]

Yes I can confirm both N Carolina and Iowa is very much improved.

Fired a salvo in N Carolina at a roon 20km away and got double citadel

 

In Iowa I fired the two front guns on Amagi and got double citadel again.

Maybe I got lucky but it feels very good compared to 0.55.

Seems the accuracy have improved.))

And if Iowa and N Carolina could get some actual armor we would be happy.

[OopsIPennedYouAgain]

Tbh there was no need for an AA buff on the NC.. not even in the slightest.

The dispersion feels really good now and makes it even more enjoyable to play. (from a guy that has over 500 battles on the live server in it).

[T_H_0_R]

Tbh there was no need for an AA buff on the NC.. not even in the slightest.

The dispersion feels really good now and makes it even more enjoyable to play. (from a guy that has over 500 battles on the life server in it).

 

Seconded. What was the reasoning behind buffing their AA?! Dispersion and turret arcs yes. AA - why???

 

Also, Iowa got a speed buff, but her loss of speed in turns was not changed. Still drags like a snail.

[Gojuadorai]

only secondary + AA gets buff from 4,5 km to 5 km

 

nope its dispersion varriance got changed

[M8ii]

 

nope its dispersion varriance got changed

 

in 0.5.7 maybe

now only secondary from 4,5 to 5 km in base

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Henning 77

its proof that accuracy was changed in v 0.5.3 (8.3.2016)? =)

last 3 pictures: citadel on 21,4 km with NC

 http://imgur.com/a/mvKYf

 

 

[robihr]

i am not satisfied with AA on NC. it needs more AA so it can kill off any squad before it gets closer to 6km

 

[SBS]

i am not satisfied with AA on NC. it needs more AA so it can kill off any squad before it gets closer to 6km

 

They might as well do it by this point. It feels like their attempts to make ships able to fend of tier 10 CV just wrecks any attempts made by tier 7 and 8 CV.

 

 

[SpicierCptBB]

The T8+ US BB's had their AA nerfed months back cause the highest tier of CV was only 8.

 

Now that CV's go up to T10 the US BB's are simply getting their old AA back.

 

Yes the AA might be strong but those ships had the most AA of any ship in WW2, its the only strong point they have in this game, except for speed maybe.

 

If you would give them their legendary accuracy and proper effect of the Mk8 (which IMO they deserve), it would break the game due to the insane damage potential per AP shell.

 

The design philosophy of the fast battleships doesn't work with the game, these ships are not meant to close distances and slug it out at close range.

They are designed to stay at range and utilize their superior speed, maneuverability and fire control to avoid fire and return fire with superior accuracy.

 

This is why in the game Yamato will always be the superior battleship.

 

 

[Gojuadorai]

 

in 0.5.7 maybe

now only secondary from 4,5 to 5 km in base

 

nope in 0.5.6

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/51753-056-patchnotes-anyone/page__pid__1035371#entry1035371

kotkiller, on 17 May 2016 - 09:00 PM, said:

Stolen from NA ;)
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North Carolina: secondary range buffed (4.5 > 5km), main gun turret arcs buffed, main gun sigma increased (1.8 > 2, basically more accurate), AA buffed (twin oerlikons changed to singles, 40mm duals changed to quads)

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[SBS]

The T8+ US BB's had their AA nerfed months back cause the highest tier of CV was only 8.

 

Now that CV's go up to T10 the US BB's are simply getting their old AA back.

 

Yes the AA might be strong but those ships had the most AA of any ship in WW2, its the only strong point they have in this game, except for speed maybe.

 

If you would give them their legendary accuracy and proper effect of the Mk8 (which IMO they deserve), it would break the game due to the insane damage potential per AP shell.

 

The design philosophy of the fast battleships doesn't work with the game, these ships are not meant to close distances and slug it out at close range.

They are designed to stay at range and utilize their superior speed, maneuverability and fire control to avoid fire and return fire with superior accuracy.

 

This is why in the game Yamato will always be the superior battleship.

 

 

 

I do not argue that the ships need to be able to withstand tier 9 or 10 planes, but a Shokaku and especially a ranger or hiryu, not to mention any poor tier 6 allready had a hard time dealing with a NC. Same with with tier 7 and 8 against an Iowa. Not to mention Nagato and many other ships are getting AA buffs as well. What is the point of the CV if their primary target the BB's, are just getting buffed to the point that engaging a lone BB can be difficult if not worth it, let alone when ships are together.

At tier 8+ going after the CV are no longer viable either due to AA ability, same with most CA. Does this mean that CV main target are now going to be DD only?

 

I would much more prefer them changes all AA and CV's (planes stats/amount of squadrons in the air), so that the progression is more flued and does not make big jumps from tier to tier. 

This way a high tier would not be able to seal club and a low tier would not be useless. Both CV and none CV would benefit from this.

After all, they allready changed planes once to make the jump from one tier to another as a CV is not that big. Why not go futher?

[N00b32]

A DD like the Fletcher has no problems with planes from Hiryu. ^^ 

 

So we have mirror matchmaking already and despite of this special aircraft carrier delivery service the carrier still gets in T +2 games at T VII/VIII. That is very special when you know the AA increase at high tier. Oh yes, I forgot, he is only allowed to play with his carrier buddy and should not influence the game in any other way unless he is top tier, in which case everybody freaks out again.