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So T4 game - 1 min onto the game, I launch a full triple of torps at an Enemy Nicholas at 5km....... TEAM Member (another DD) sails round the island (not spotted or showing on Mini map), engages warp factor 60 and sprints to get the Nicholas & sails right into my full spread of torps. Result - I get turned Pink.....

 

I have 3.5k games approx, Yes over the time playing I have ACCIDENTALLY  caused team damage - I defy ANY player 1k games + to say they have NEVER team damaged..... EVER

 

So I get penalised for another [edited] actions - OK, I get it - new system - [edited] happens....

 

How long does it last?

What are the effects on me continuing to play? There is a lot of confusing crapon these forums about what the mechanics really are.....

 

Appreciate any constructive informative comments in reply, Flamer's etc can kiss my [edited]

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so in the time it took your torps to go 5km another dd got in the way? and you didnt see him? seems legit.......also you tried to torp another dd??????? sounds like you got what you deserved.

Edit: not flaming just pointing out that this may have been your fault on many levels.

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How can a team member disappear from the mini-map (and still be within sailing range of your tier 4 torps)?

 

BTW, you do have it as large as it will go? The mini-map - that is.

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To be honest its not the end of the world. So you are pink for a bit, you can still play right? Sure some players are gonna grief you and make snide comments, just play well and you will be fine.

 

On the torpedo mater though:

 

Why do you try to torp a nicholas at 5k range? They will NEVER hit if that dd driver has half a brain. Either stealth torp or engage it in a knifefight under 3k range. Depending on the dd you are sailing yourself.

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Your torps, your responsibility. Don't call other people dickheads because of your mistakes.

 

Not entirely sure how long it lasts, but I've heard from between a few games or a few hours up to a day or two. Depends on how much you play and what you do in the matches. Effect of it probably isn't as much as it should be for TKers, so I wouldn't worry too much.

Why do you try to torp a nicholas at 5k range? They will NEVER hit if that dd driver has half a brain. Either stealth torp or engage it in a knifefight under 3k range. Depending on the dd you are sailing yourself.

 

They might not hit, but they will give her something to think about. It's not a bad idea to throw some torps in the general direction. And you could get lucky. I recently torped a Wickes to the sea bed with three separate torpedo salvos from an Umikaze at ~6 km range.

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[...]TEAM Member (another DD) sails round the island (not spotted or showing on Mini map), engages warp factor 60 and sprints to get the Nicholas & sails right into my full spread of torps. Result - I get turned Pink.....[...]

 

 

Maybe I get something wrong here, but your own team members are always shown on the minimap if they are this close. Further away, outside your viewing range, the image gets hollowed out but should be still there on the map.

Regardless of this, I'd call it an accident and move on. Your torpedos would have also been visible for him so it seems to me, you both didn't check your surroundings carefully enough ;)

Happens to everyone from time to time

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I can always see all members of my own team, and they're on the minimap.

 

Only time I can't is when they're so far away that they're out of my ships acquisition range.

 

So I don't see how a team member (that is somewhere nearby since the torps are only going 5km) can be unseen and not on minimap.

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I have turned pink once in my short career. A DD desides to start firing at me right from start, i catch fire, repairs. when repair is out he sets me on fire again, and this time , no mercy, i sank the [edited]. was pink for 4-5 battles afterwards

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this is why the teamkiller discussion thread should've stayed.

 

The problem with all game forums is the high level of immaturity among it's users. 

Unfortunately, the majority of threads turn into flame wars among people who really should know better. 

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The problem with all game forums is the high level of immaturity among it's users. 

Unfortunately, the majority of threads turn into flame wars among people who really should know better. 

 

mine actually lasted for suprisingly long before what I can only assume was a deliberate troll trying to get it locked (defending teamkillers)
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if OP defines "team damaged" as inflicting some damage to a teammates then I'd have to agree with me being guilty somehow of this, as it is pretty common that people of my team decided to attempt to park in my ships side....

 

as for actuall teamkills there are only two tks noted in my career of "i forgot how many battles", one being my clear mistake and full responsibility [tried to torp DD i na close range DD fight, didn't notice allied BB behind him - 100% my fault was noob at a time :P]

 

and the other was in ranked battles being clear suicide of cruiser in our team who besides multiple warnings decided to go alone to the point where all enemy fleet assembled [KM cruiser btw] at some point seemed to get "some" brain and started retreating from them only to turn around for 180 degrees again into a suicidal run against literally all enemy team once my torps was already in water, his suicide run ended earlier than he anticipated and I've got my precious lesson of assuming people being in fact suicidal - since then I do not fire torpedoes if there is any chance of ally being even remotely in a way and fr OP - I'd advice the same - be 3x more cautious and assume everyone is blind suicidal maniac wanting to get into your torpedos line of travel and you'll be fine

 

as for the details on how that being pink factually works I'd love to now myself :P

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Thanks for the reply's - reverted back after 4 games, 2 wins, fair comment on the map size....

 

  • Yes it was frikkin embarrassing
  • I started every game by saying "yes I accidentally T.K's in a T4 match"
  • Was not "griefed" by team members in anyway - well received & actually got a few compliments post game

Overwhelming number of comments of team mates who don't play lower than T5 because of previous similar experiences

 

Thanks to all for the support in game..... Yes it has been a learning curve, final thought

 

Be nice to your "pinkies", it may/maynot be their fault, they can still contribute

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So T4 game - 1 min onto the game, I launch a full triple of torps at an Enemy Nicholas at 5km....... TEAM Member (another DD) sails round the island (not spotted or showing on Mini map), engages warp factor 60 and sprints to get the Nicholas & sails right into my full spread of torps. Result - I get turned Pink.....

 

I have 3.5k games approx, Yes over the time playing I have ACCIDENTALLY  caused team damage - I defy ANY player 1k games + to say they have NEVER team damaged..... EVER

 

So I get penalised for another [edited] actions - OK, I get it - new system - [edited] happens....

 

How long does it last?

What are the effects on me continuing to play? There is a lot of confusing crapon these forums about what the mechanics really are.....

 

Appreciate any constructive informative comments in reply, Flamer's etc can kiss my [edited]

 

It is always the responsibility of the player launching the torpedoes to make sure that friendlies are not or can not be at some point in the near future in the danger zone of the the torpedoes. As a friendly player you have no way to know who on your team is launching torps unless the player tells them that torps are about to be launched therefore it is always the launching players responsibility to make sure that friendlies are not in danger from the player's torps. You got pink learn from it and move on.
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The only time you can fire torps when someone is in potential range is if you're already chatting with them about what you're doing. If you don't know they're paying attention to chat, don't torp, even if you warn them.

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Launching torps is a bit like firing the KV-2 derp gun in a confused brawling situation in WoT.

 

It's all down to weighing up the risks and the benefits.

 

Sometimes it makes sense to fire, even though there's a risk you'll do a teamkill. In the unlucky event that that happens, you just have to swallow the punishment.

 

It's only a game.

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So T4 game - 1 min onto the game, I launch a full triple of torps at an Enemy Nicholas at 5km....... TEAM Member (another DD) sails round the island (not spotted or showing on Mini map), engages warp factor 60 and sprints to get the Nicholas & sails right into my full spread of torps. Result - I get turned Pink.....

 

I have 3.5k games approx, Yes over the time playing I have ACCIDENTALLY  caused team damage - I defy ANY player 1k games + to say they have NEVER team damaged..... EVER

 

So I get penalised for another [edited] actions - OK, I get it - new system - [edited] happens....

 

How long does it last?

What are the effects on me continuing to play? There is a lot of confusing crapon these forums about what the mechanics really are.....

 

Appreciate any constructive informative comments in reply, Flamer's etc can kiss my [edited]

 

You did not get penalised, going pink is just a warning to be careful or you will get banned. It's annoying the amount of people on here crying about getting a warning. Also you are 100% responsible for your own torpedos so stop expecting team mates to be able to read you mind when you spam your torps

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You did not get penalised, going pink is just a warning to be careful or you will get banned. It's annoying the amount of people on here crying about getting a warning. Also you are 100% responsible for your own torpedos so stop expecting team mates to be able to read you mind when you spam your torps

 

News flash stud - there is a thing called situational awareness, that EVER player - tanks or boats should have 1st & foremost fixed in their heads - Mea Maxima Culpa - I accept I screwed up,  I also EXPECT other team mates to play without their ANAL-OPTICAL interconnect live & functioning.

 

Responsible for Torps YES - totally agree, but I cannot change the direction of them in a close quarter / tight land situation with the target distraction to help out ANOTHER TEAM MATE.

 

TO ALL THOSE BANGING ON ABOUT "YOUR TORPS YOUR FAULT" - Another news flash - they are not wire-guided, I have ZERO control after firing them & unfortunately my highly skilled telepathic ability doesn't work with psychopathic decisions taken  in the hope of stealing someone else's target.

 

Again, my thanks for the P.M's of support & agreement - there is hope in this community forum......

 

I need a shower.....

 

Warthog out

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Doesn't matter if they're wire-guided or not. You're the one who fired them. They wouldn't be there if it weren't for you.

 

Players usually don't expect torps to come from behind. They usually don't expect allies will fire at them, or put them at risk. As such, they pay less attention to that as opposed to, you know, the ships who're supposed to be the enemies.

 

Most of the time players have a reason for turning as they do. Maybe they need a better angle for shooting. Maybe they're trying to avoid detection. Maybe they're trying to not get killed. Maybe they're strategically relocating to a different area of the battlefield. Destroyers in particular sail more in S and U shapes than in I shapes.

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TO ALL THOSE BANGING ON ABOUT "YOUR TORPS YOUR FAULT" - Another news flash - they are not wire-guided, I have ZERO control after firing them & unfortunately my highly skilled telepathic ability doesn't work with psychopathic decisions taken  in the hope of stealing someone else's target.

 

That is why we tell you to not fire them, when there is a risk to hit a teammate. They can't read your thoughts either and don't know when to evade your torpedos while they are concentrating on the enemy.

 

You have absolut control over the trigger that releases your torps. Because of that they are your responsiblity for the whole time they are running.

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I bow to your superior knowledge and skill after 133 games - wow...

 

I don't know how you came up with that number (it is false btw), as my stats are hidden, but... well... actually, there is no but... I don't care anyway. My number of battles has nothing to do with the fact that if you fire your torpedos, you need to be aware of any friendly that might drive into them. You can not push that responsibilty on another player.

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Heh actually something funny. Shot an enemy Mahan, when a friendly Kiev comes up on him. Kiev took hits from mahan, was almost dead going for a ramkill after my shots were in the air. I hit the mahan and the splash damage kills the Kiev in the split second he rammed him, making me go WHAT THE....?????. In my defense, I only took the shot because I never expected him to go for the ramkill. Well, never been pink before until this week, now twice already. Sucks, but it'll go over soon.

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So T4 game - 1 min onto the game, I launch a full triple of torps at an Enemy Nicholas at 5km....... TEAM Member (another DD) sails round the island (not spotted or showing on Mini map), engages warp factor 60 and sprints to get the Nicholas & sails right into my full spread of torps. Result - I get turned Pink.....

 

I have 3.5k games approx, Yes over the time playing I have ACCIDENTALLY  caused team damage - I defy ANY player 1k games + to say they have NEVER team damaged..... EVER

 

So I get penalised for another dickhead's actions - OK, I get it - new system - *&^$ happens....

 

How long does it last?

What are the effects on me continuing to play? There is a lot of confusing crapon these forums about what the mechanics really are.....

 

Appreciate any constructive informative comments in reply, Flamer's etc can kiss my #$@!

Team member not spotted? every member of the team is visible to the same team on the minimap. spotting mechanics are for the enemy team only. you should know this with 3.5k games under your belt. also is it not 2 kills to turn pink? either way if you didn't know a team member was that close you aren't paying enough attention and I will be steering clear of you if you are on my team

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