[MAASS] th3freakie Beta Tester 420 posts 7,746 battles Report post #1 Posted May 13, 2016 Ever since 5.5 hit and destroyer players were all hit with mass hallucinations, there have been many posts about strategies and methods on how to deal with the non-changes. Unfortunately, these are a bit scattered around several threads and sub-forums, some focusing on DDs, others on the general Smoke and/or Detection mechanics, others still designed only for IJN DDs, which were finally re-balanced in a way that made absolute sense and left everyone happy. So I figured we could use a thread to concentrate all the strategies to adapt to our own deranged perception, because obviously nothing changed and you'd have to be a crazy person to say otherwise. Personally, I bought Stellaris. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAVOC] Niibler Players 723 posts Report post #2 Posted May 13, 2016 I adapted by trying out Overwatch, ended up buying it instead of a discounted Atago. I'd rather hallucinate in a different game it seems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SYTHE] _Flyto_ Players 623 posts 7,167 battles Report post #3 Posted May 13, 2016 I adapted it by stopping playing high-tier destroyers. And putting more of my time into XCOM 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
44smok Players 4,367 posts 16,858 battles Report post #4 Posted May 13, 2016 Mounting torpedo acquisition perk on my Chapayev captain to increase radar range to 14,5 km and troll DD even more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cosseria Players 1,064 posts 4,944 battles Report post #5 Posted May 13, 2016 Quitting T 8 DDs and buying back some T 2 instead. However I'm not using smoke anymore as a viable tactic, I just camp more and hug islands instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #6 Posted May 13, 2016 I think ppl are using smoke wrong now. I think you need to start turning away and put the smoke behind you so you don't keep sliding out and keeping your detection on. Theory tho. I don't DD. I just face them a lot Those that smoke and slow up now give you 3-8s to shoot them depending on how quickly they slow up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ENUF] Ze_Reckless [ENUF] Players 2,532 posts 23,427 battles Report post #7 Posted May 13, 2016 I think ppl are using smoke wrong now. I think you need to start turning away and put the smoke behind you so you don't keep sliding out and keeping your detection on. Theory tho. I don't DD. I just face them a lot Those that smoke and slow up now give you 3-8s to shoot them depending on how quickly they slow up. Have fun doing that with the amazing turning rate of russian DDs. Or when there is a plane above your head (you might not even see). I'm fine with nerfs, but do they have to be ninja? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #8 Posted May 13, 2016 In russian DD you're spotted anyway so there is little difference. And I'd even say if you're not spotted when pissing as many people off as possible, you do it wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #9 Posted May 13, 2016 i play a lot less dd now. also less wows. you know stellaris is rather nice... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #10 Posted May 13, 2016 Playing as always... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Mayv Players 1,952 posts 7,021 battles Report post #11 Posted May 13, 2016 Slowing down to nearly a stop before using offensive smoke. Trying not to rely on defensive smoke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNAF] HMS_Worcester Beta Tester 1,609 posts Report post #12 Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) Personally, I bought Stellaris. Stellaris really is the best remedy for the current stresses of this game, it is getting me through the GNB event nicely (by me only playing Stellaris!). Edited May 13, 2016 by HMS_Dauntless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KOKOS] MaxxyNL [KOKOS] Beta Tester, Players 3,418 posts 11,878 battles Report post #13 Posted May 13, 2016 Not experiencing any problems when i play my DD's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ENUF] Ze_Reckless [ENUF] Players 2,532 posts 23,427 battles Report post #14 Posted May 13, 2016 In russian DD you're spotted anyway so there is little difference. And I'd even say if you're not spotted when pissing as many people off as possible, you do it wrong True, but you would rather like to be unspotted when getting into position or when you discover two cruisers at 9 km. Defensive smoke doesn't help you, it's like all ships have radar at all times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gr0pah Players 1,168 posts 9,822 battles Report post #15 Posted May 13, 2016 Mounting torpedo acquisition perk on my Chapayev captain to increase radar range to 14,5 km and troll DD even more Huh? That doesn't work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Mayv Players 1,952 posts 7,021 battles Report post #16 Posted May 13, 2016 Huh? That doesn't work. I think he is talking about the UI bug. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azrael_Ashemdion Beta Tester 360 posts 17,480 battles Report post #17 Posted May 13, 2016 I adapted it by stopping playing high-tier destroyers. And putting more of my time into XCOM 2. I've seen a few of Jingles' vids on that...is it worth the $$? Az Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SYTHE] _Flyto_ Players 623 posts 7,167 battles Report post #18 Posted May 13, 2016 I've seen a few of Jingles' vids on that...is it worth the $$? Az It's not as good as the first of the reboots, but it's still good. Probably worth it now, if you like that sort of game, definitely it worth it once discounting starts :-) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Unintentional_submarine [SPUDS] Beta Tester 4,052 posts 8,765 battles Report post #19 Posted May 13, 2016 Well, aside from various snide comments I could make, I have decided to stop using the stop-in-smoke when detected. Instead I use it as a cover wall in retreating. If I can be sure the incoming fire is limited, then the stop-in-smoke is still applied. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HALON] Amon_ITA Players 708 posts 13,072 battles Report post #20 Posted May 13, 2016 At least the "BB Mafia" doesn't talk of switching to other games when their ships are nerfed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Ictogan Players 1,841 posts 7,432 battles Report post #21 Posted May 13, 2016 At least the "BB Mafia" doesn't talk of switching to other games when their ships are nerfed. So when were BBs last nerfed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OlFson Beta Tester 455 posts 17,629 battles Report post #22 Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) At least the "BB Mafia" doesn't talk of switching to other games when their ships are nerfed. Praise them on topic: didnt adapt yet. Edited May 13, 2016 by OlFson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #23 Posted May 13, 2016 but you have to admire the wg. they nerfed torpedoes so you must close distance to enemy fleet, and then they nerfed smoke so enemy fleet can actually kill you. SNAFU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Mayv Players 1,952 posts 7,021 battles Report post #24 Posted May 13, 2016 So when were BBs last nerfed? Didnt you hear that Ap has been nerfed every second patch and BB dispersion nerfed every third patch? Now BBs are lucky to land a hit and when they do 97% if them are over pens. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #25 Posted May 13, 2016 Didnt you hear that Ap has been nerfed every second patch and BB dispersion nerfed every third patch? Now BBs are lucky to land a hit and when they do 97% if them are over pens. Well, every mine battle in Iowa starts with prayer to RNGesus for blessing to at least be able to hit water, because at times even that isn't that easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites