#GrandNavalBattles Grand Naval Battles event thread (post your stuff here! instead of openening multiple threads)

[Sebsen]

 

But announcing the reward for the 12mill diamonds "top secret" and then beeing surprised by the saltyness of the players is beyond making mistakes..... i would call it ignorance, disinterest and totally incompetence of the person in charge.

 

Felt overall like they did not even follow the event thread. The speculations were building up so fast, they had more than enough time to intervene and just calm the situation down by letting us know what the "secret" is.

Instead, they dropped the bomb on a side note. "Btw, everyone recieves 10 GNB camos for the 12 million goal. YAY!"

I am not that unhappy, but the way the event ended (or will end) will leave a bitter aftertaste for a long time on my side.

 

 

[aboomination]

Btw, I didn't receive those 10 gnb camouflages, yet - should I (380 diamonds)?

[JG4_sKylon]

Btw, I didn't receive those 10 gnb camouflages, yet - should I (380 diamonds)?

 

AFAIK everyone who earned at least 1 diamond should get them.

[Sebsen]

Btw, I didn't receive those 10 gnb camouflages, yet - should I (380 diamonds)?

 

 

Will probably be awarded once the event is over on the 8th.

 

[fighting_falcon93]

you'll realize that the amount of prizes we distributed with this event is substantial. 

 

Yes, that's true, but I think that this is also one of the reasons why some players are annoyed. Basicly we worked quite hard to complete all missions, but instead of getting something that's valuable from a personal point of view, we get something that's valuable for some players and worthless for others.

 

And what I really can't understand is, since it doesn't matter for WG from an economical point of view, why not give your players the possibility to choose all prizes for themselves? I mean from an economical point of view, it doesn't really matter what WG gives out, does it? From an economical point of view you gave each player the potential to earn prizes for X amount of diamonds. So why not let each player choose all of their prizes?

 

One example is that we where only allowed to open each crate once - why? For instance, in my case, I wanted to stack up with port slots for upcoming branches. I still earned the value equivalent to multiple slots from an economical point of view, but I where still not allowed to open the crate more than once. That makes no sense to me.

 

Another example is that there where only low tier ships aviable - why? For instance, a player could afford to pick alteast 3 low tier ships, and in total these 3 ships propably even exceed the value of a tier 5 or 6 ship, so from an economical point of view, this shouldn't matter either. If some players would prefer to use all of their diamonds to get a tier 5-6-7-8 premium ship (whatever 1000 diamonds is equivalent to), it makes no sense to not allow them to.

 

I know that some players go by the motto that "hey it's free", but I doubt that all of us think that way. After all, we didn't get it for free, we actually had to play to earn it, and in that case we want something that is of worth to us personally, not something that might be valuable to another player.

 

So my advice for future events is this:

 

- Don't give away prizes for the sake of showing that you're giving away free stuff. Do it order to make players happy.

- Allow us to open each crate multiple times.

- Either make the 12/15 million diamonds goal reward all participants with a tier 6/8 (depending on difficulty) ship, or allow players to get a tier 6/8 ship as an individual prize.

[Diabolik__]

Well secret is revealed and secret is:"Players are fools."

 

They fooled me into this one as I wouldn't have spent this much time playing for 10 lousy  camos. 

 

If there were not "It's a secret" thing I would  participate but not this much and through regular playing I would gather things I need and that is Premium time and combat and commercial flags.

 

And please dont say that "It's a secret" was unintentional mistake, it was planned to fool players into more gaming like you have fooled me. It's like that joke in my country: A: Do you know how I keep my monkey doubtful? B: How? A: I'll tell you later.

 

 

 

[G01ngToxicCommand0]

A happy customer is a loyal customer and the customer is always right; two basic mercantile truths needed to conduct a succesful and prospering business - remember that Wargaming.

 

Having worked my [edited]of to gain the 1000 diamonds I still hope there is a reward ship as the final 'secret' otherwise this event have all been for nothing, I mean those 3 tier II premium ships they got me (Smith, Tachibana and Albany which was sold again as it is utterly worthless) are all signifcant worse than their standard techtree equivalents and can be used for their collection value only and could have been sold for 5 euros in the premium shop to collectors while their ingame value is only their selling cost in silver which isn't much and certainly not the time worth spent collecting all those diamonds.

 

 

[praetor_jax]

I am actually very surprised how many people played primarily for the "secret" - i never even took that into account. Funny how things go

 

[Nechrom]

I am actually very surprised how many people played primarily for the "secret" - i never even took that into account. Funny how things go

 

^ This

[Gojuadorai]

 

But do we really want to cater to the lowest common denominator every event?

In the Project R event we got basically a premium copy of a DD which can produce good results. Not that interesting, but a useful tool for those who don't already have something better for that purpose.

Now in GNB we could get a combination of a few unique collector ships, premium time, a port slot, signals, lottery entries for a bunch of physical goods etc. It all scaled based on how much time and effort we put in.

The only way to continue to satisfy even more people is giving more and more options.

 

well about the lowest denominator.

thats why i said the posibility to choose from rewards was a good thing about the event. (with multiple rewards you diminish the problem to a degree that is negelectable)

but what would be diffrent with a "main prize" , either aditional in the "secret" as people assumed or just as a 800-1000 diamond prize?

you just have more happy players, happy players who love the game will spend money more easily, therefore compensating for the "loss" wg makes giving away free stuff. (debateable size of effects but not a unreasonable assumption)

 

the mistake i and a lot of people made to assume is that such a thing exsists. (i too assumed the flags might have some small propertys after seen the uber flag NA recived, which was another disapointment)

i still dont think it was unreasonable to think so.

 

That's setting an unrealistically high standard for events, which would probably result in less events overall.

Every event isn't going to be perfect for everyone. The important thing is to identify which event is worth your time.

 

i have to agree to that with the slight correction:

The important thing is beeing able to identify which event is worth your time.

 

if i could have known what i know now, i now would not be dissapointed.

[XbodzioXplX]

Felt overall like they did not even follow the event thread. The speculations were building up so fast, they had more than enough time to intervene and just calm the situation down by letting us know what the "secret" is.

 

Yes - and I tried to find a post when one of us said:

- The 12 mln secret will be a mission for 20 camos (or 20 repair party or something like that)

And the other replied:

- I don't think so - just imagine that sh*tstorm about that.

 

Well.... 

 

 

Btw, I didn't receive those 10 gnb camouflages, yet - should I (380 diamonds)?

 

I've got mine yesterday.

 

 Cause if you would offer tier V vessel for example, not even going into tier VI VII and VIII as was in WoT for example, people would actually use this ship for it's job - earning creds and stuff. Ships that were offered "in substantial quantity" are just thrashy items. 

 

Yes, the tier 2 is basically for collectors. I've took them, played them 2-3 times, spam some nice torpedo with Smith, laugh about it and return to higher tiers.

[SFCGunny313]

GNB event = grind and grind and grind so you can redeem diamonds for tier 2-4 ships, flags, etc.

 

Now look at the current event.  Took 3 days to unlock the ARP Kirishima Commander and ship (a tier 5 ship)

And WG still doesn't quite understand why everyone is so salty and still believes the "rewards were substantial"....wow

[Vanhal]

GNB event = grind and grind and grind so you can redeem diamonds for tier 2-4 ships, flags, etc.

 

Now look at the current event.  Took 3 days to unlock the ARP Kirishima Commander and ship (a tier 5 ship)

And WG still doesn't quite understand why everyone is so salty and still believes the "rewards were substantial"....wow

 

Noted. Next (if there will be next that is) ARP event you will need to do 50.000.000 damage in month for ARP Chikuma.

[txtspeak]

 

Noted. Next (if there will be next that is) ARP event you will need to do 50.000.000 damage in month for ARP Chikuma.

 

ARP chikuma?

[DanRO]

I also don't understand why all the fuss. The event was very, very fair. It offered everyone a chance to win something without having to sacrifice real life. It was fairly easy to obtain enough diamonds to collect one premium ship and for those who invested more time, even two premium ships... for free! Then the diamonds that you could collect by participating on the challenges arranged by the YouTubers which also open further chances and options.

Honestly, I didn't like the Kamikaze R event much but WG learned much and this event was very cool, with many possible awards depending on your play style and time and, what I also appreciate very much: the possibility to actually pick the prizes you want. May that be port slots, doublons, premium ships, real model ships and what not. 

 

And the milestones? I beg you. The milestones are just bonuses that you get for the collective investment of the players, bonuses that you get from doing nothing. You could sign in, not play the game, and you'd still get your milestone awards. If you take that into consideration, you must realize how naive it would be to expect juicy rewards from it.

 

War Gaming, thank you so much for making such a balanced event with so many possibilities!

[General_Kunde]

I also don't understand why all the fuss. The event was very, very fair. It offered everyone a chance to win something without having to sacrifice real life. It was fairly easy to obtain enough diamonds to collect one premium ship and for those who invested more time, even two premium ships... for free! Then the diamonds that you could collect by participating on the challenges arranged by the YouTubers which also open further chances and options.

 

But honestly, what did we get?

 

- two useless com. flags (americans got a nice flag for almost nothing with 5% ©XP/Cedits - not GNB related though)

- low tier prem ships (i took them just for the port slots + sell, most people don't care about low tier prems - i would have never spent dubloons on such)

- chances to win a few models/pins (chances were lower than 0,1%)

- a few consumables (flags, repair) - decent

- 10 days of prem time (the only useful IMHO)

 

That's basically nothing of interest. I mean, if someone throws rocks at you, u wouldn't cheer, right?

All this was worth a normal weekend event, nothing more.

 

Additionally the Jutland Anniversary was totally ignored...

 

I can live with a shitty event, no problem, but ignoring the most important naval battle in history...jeeez, you gotta be amateurish not to honor this by giving out something special like the flag as the NA boys got..

 

I'm aware that it's impossible to fulfill the expectations of everyone, but it's simply not that difficult do proper event business.

[Gojuadorai]

quick reminder for all the people who havnt seen it  pleas  post your constructive feedback here :

 

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/53102-events-r-vs-gnb/#topmost

[NyronGT]

Well...since i won't have an opportunity to effectively write anything here for some time I guess that i could make a small summary of my impressions on the event.

First and foremost - 'the secret'. An effect of miscommunication. Surely, it will be revealed regardless of the 15kk goal being reached or not...I think. Whatever this 'secret' will end up being, i hope it won't require logging in. I'd hate losing the 'grand prize' in a similar fashion as i did with Project R. Damned Kamikaze salts me every time i see it in battles!

 

Back to the topic...

The only actual coal sink i saw were the premium ships. Granted, they won't earn much in terms of credits and xp, but they were still a better investment than expirable premium time or one-use-only flags, or any material prizes (Let's be honest, those are (or were, depending on when one reads this post...If at all) pretty much impossible to get).That's, of course, only my personal view and should not be considered general image of every aforementioned matter. That said, I do consider GNB to be a rather reasonable event. Was it better than Project R? I'd say that both of those events had their (dis-)advantages. For the latter one it was Kamikaze itself and for GNB - relative 'freedom' of choice in terms of coal's allocation and small, side rewards for reaching coal thresholds. (At least i got to reacquire Tachi <<put smiley face here>>)

 

Again, i really hope that logging in won't be necessary to 'secure' the 'secret' on one's account.

K, enough spamming. Just ignore what i said and move along.

[SFCGunny313]

I also don't understand why all the fuss. The event was very, very fair. It offered everyone a chance to win something without having to sacrifice real life. It was fairly easy to obtain enough diamonds to collect one premium ship and for those who invested more time, even two premium ships... for free! Then the diamonds that you could collect by participating on the challenges arranged by the YouTubers which also open further chances and options.

Honestly, I didn't like the Kamikaze R event much but WG learned much and this event was very cool, with many possible awards depending on your play style and time and, what I also appreciate very much: the possibility to actually pick the prizes you want. May that be port slots, doublons, premium ships, real model ships and what not.

 

And the milestones? I beg you. The milestones are just bonuses that you get for the collective investment of the players, bonuses that you get from doing nothing. You could sign in, not play the game, and you'd still get your milestone awards. If you take that into consideration, you must realize how naive it would be to expect juicy rewards from it.

 

War Gaming, thank you so much for making such a balanced event with so many possibilities!

 

Again, let's examine this.

"enough diamonds to collect one premium ship" - true, albeit low tier premium ships (tiers 2-4), and again, I'll compare that with the current ARP event, which only took me three days to unlock both the commander and tier 5 battleship.

"with many possible awards" - not so true.  Port slots, limited premium time - those are limited awards.  Premium ships, again low tier.  Flags? Nothing you can't earn through normal play.  The others were lottery - so miniscule chance.

Sorry, but your entire post makes you sound like a delusional fanboy.

[DanRO]

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Sorry, but your entire post makes you sound like a delusional fanboy.

 

Perhaps my expectations are more moderate or I am less spoiled in what kind of prizes I expect to get from a free to play game.

[Nechrom]

Sorry, but your entire post makes you sound like a delusional fanboy.

 

No, that's what's called "a different opinion".

[SFCGunny313]

 

Perhaps my expectations are more moderate or I am less spoiled in what kind of prizes I expect to get from a free to play game.

 

Again, let's compare with the current event.  A chance to earn a tier 5 and a tier 7 ship.  Event runs through 1 August, and the description, and mission requirements, as well as the reward, are all very CLEARLY stated.  It's not open to interpretation, guesswork or conjecture.

The GNB event, in comparison, was rife with issues, yet you come across as defending the entire event, without any issues - hence, why I called you a delusional fanboy.

The GNB event had rewards - yes.  All extremely insignificant rewards, and because of the poorly stated and communicated event, it led many players to guess and interpret what the true "secret mission" rewards would entail.

Now, go back to your land of utopia and unicorns and let the adults talk.

[Elo_Naj]

I do not understand why low tier ships are not liked. I mean sometimes you want to take a ship out for fun and that is even possible in T1.

[Gojuadorai]

I do not understand why low tier ships are not liked. I mean sometimes you want to take a ship out for fun and that is even possible in T1.

 

most people want ships that the can play on a regular basisi and retrain captains on them.

 

but ships till tier 5 (one could argue about tier 4) do not make sufficient credits/Xp to be worth playing for any reason other to enjoy them once in a while.

and most people have some 1-2 ships for that already or dont even want that cause they rather take a break from the game if they dont want to play a efficient ship right now.

[DanRO]

 

Again, let's compare with the current event.  A chance to earn a tier 5 and a tier 7 ship.  Event runs through 1 August, and the description, and mission requirements, as well as the reward, are all very CLEARLY stated.  It's not open to interpretation, guesswork or conjecture.

The GNB event, in comparison, was rife with issues, yet you come across as defending the entire event, without any issues - hence, why I called you a delusional fanboy.

The GNB event had rewards - yes.  All extremely insignificant rewards, and because of the poorly stated and communicated event, it led many players to guess and interpret what the true "secret mission" rewards would entail.

Now, go back to your land of utopia and unicorns and let the adults talk.

 

I am glad I am talking to an adult.

What if I hit three birds with one stone and also want the stone?