[FO] Todger_Fairmile Players 494 posts 17,582 battles Report post #1 Posted May 2, 2016 https://na.wargaming.net/shop/wows/specials/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNAF] HMS_Worcester Beta Tester 1,609 posts Report post #2 Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) https://na.wargaming.net/shop/wows/specials/ inb4 the torrent of "Ugh it's OP, it's pay2win" whines start. I'm looking forward to when we can get our hands on it. It makes sense for the NA server to get it first. Edited May 2, 2016 by HMS_Dauntless 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aldramelech Beta Tester 1,753 posts Report post #3 Posted May 2, 2016 inb4 the torrent of "Ugh it's OP, it's pay2win" whines start. I'm looking forward to when we can get our hands on it. It makes sense for the NA server to get it first. Like it would make sense for the Campbeltown to be on EU first............................wait..................... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #4 Posted May 2, 2016 inb4 the torrent of "Ugh it's OP, it's pay2win" whines start. I'm looking forward to when we can get our hands on it. It makes sense for the NA server to get it first. Yeah, it does. Campbeltown on RU server on sale atm, and a collection/bundle of rare tanks on SEA. They better put that stuff soon in the EU shop. I need moar OP/pay2win ships/ tanks in my port/ garage. You can't have enough OP/ pay2win stuff. Which reminds me to take my OP/ pay2win Atlanta out for a ride.^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gatt Players 509 posts Report post #5 Posted May 2, 2016 22 Euros, not bad. It will be very interesting with a 14 skills captain (+20% AA range & manual super-AA, that is). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #6 Posted May 2, 2016 I think it is a bit expensive. The naked Ishizuchi costs 9 to 12 Euros (depending on sale) and the Blysca 19 Euros. For 22 Euros I expected a package. The naked ship should be around 15 to 18 Euros, especially if it is just a variant of an existing ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #7 Posted May 2, 2016 22 Euros, not bad. It will be very interesting with a 14 skills captain (+20% AA range & manual super-AA, that is). 22€ actually is bad, considering the other t5 ship currently on offer is roughly 13€ (Murmansk). I had hoped the Texas' price would be similar (up to 15€) ... but then again it might just be WG having infalted the price specifically for NA because they know they can squeeze a couple more bucks out of an audience they know is looking forward for more US premium ships specifically. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSSHI] Kazomir Players 1,566 posts Report post #8 Posted May 2, 2016 inb4 the torrent of "Ugh it's OP, it's pay2win" whines start. I'm looking forward to when we can get our hands on it. It makes sense for the NA server to get it first. But you know it IS op right? Basically a tad more sluggish new york that is immune to most CV attacks. (one of the classes that is supposed to counter BBs, remember? ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNAF] HMS_Worcester Beta Tester 1,609 posts Report post #9 Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) But you know it IS op right? Basically a tad more sluggish new york that is immune to most CV attacks. (one of the classes that is supposed to counter BBs, remember? ) Being able to effectively counter air attacks in a BB does not make it OP. EDITED because people like to take things the wrong way.... Edited May 2, 2016 by HMS_Dauntless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #10 Posted May 2, 2016 ... and is more vulnerable to DD that are more numerous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSSHI] Kazomir Players 1,566 posts Report post #11 Posted May 2, 2016 Finally being able to counter air attacks in a BB does not make it OP. Lets introcude a premium cruiser that counters battleships then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNAF] HMS_Worcester Beta Tester 1,609 posts Report post #12 Posted May 2, 2016 ... and is more vulnerable to DD that are more numerous. Apparently CAs spamming HE and DDs torping is NOT a counter to BBs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSSHI] Kazomir Players 1,566 posts Report post #13 Posted May 2, 2016 ... and is more vulnerable to DD that are more numerous. About 5% less maneuverability does not warrant +100% protection against air attacks from same tier CVs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSSHI] Kazomir Players 1,566 posts Report post #14 Posted May 2, 2016 Apparently CAs spamming HE and DDs torping is NOT a counter to BBs. Oh god a BB captain complaining about HE and fires. I'll sort myself out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #15 Posted May 2, 2016 About 5% less maneuverability does not warrant +100% protection against air attacks from same tier CVs. I doubt the 100%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNAF] HMS_Worcester Beta Tester 1,609 posts Report post #16 Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) Oh god a BB captain complaining about HE and fires. I'll sort myself out. Oh dear go I am not complaining about HE. Fires have never bothered me in a BB. Edit: And if you honestly think I am, you might want to read some of the other posts I have made in the past about HE & fires. Edited May 2, 2016 by HMS_Dauntless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSSHI] Kazomir Players 1,566 posts Report post #17 Posted May 2, 2016 I doubt the 100%. Has more self-defence AA DPS than a Cleveland. And we all know what a Cleveland does to tier 5 CVs trying to attack it. Not even talking about tier 4 CVs or even Tier 4 CVs with 4-plane squadrons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #18 Posted May 2, 2016 No defensive fire... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNAF] HMS_Worcester Beta Tester 1,609 posts Report post #19 Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) No defensive fire... Exactly, so it's not like the planes are going to get "shaken". Any competent CV captain will be able to take down a Texas, they will just lose more planes doing it. Edited May 2, 2016 by HMS_Dauntless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSSHI] Kazomir Players 1,566 posts Report post #20 Posted May 2, 2016 You know what, We shall check the statistics in two months time to reveal which one is the better ship, Texas or NY. Deal? IMO its better to release a mediocre premium and then buff it if needs be than to release a borderline OP premium then be unable to nerf it if it turns out OP. Especially next to its copy-paste researchable ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #21 Posted May 2, 2016 If they release a mediocre premium ship and it gets reviewed as being mediocre, they will probably only sell a mediocre amount of it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNAF] HMS_Worcester Beta Tester 1,609 posts Report post #22 Posted May 2, 2016 Good or bad, OP or not....I don't really care. I collect ships regardless of their stats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #23 Posted May 2, 2016 Some ships are simply a must, even though they are significantly worse in-game than their counterparts. The in-game Emden vs. Dresden comes to mind. On that note, Captain Dauntless, might we hope that your Mikasa Appreciation Society can badger Wargaming to put the Mikasa on sale again? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #24 Posted May 2, 2016 Exactly, so it's not like the planes are going to get "shaken". Any competent CV captain will be able to take down a Texas, they will just lose more planes doing it. To be entirely fair here: low tier CVs don't come with an abundance of replacement aircraft. It's not like they can just throw their planes into the grinder to strong-arm an attack because they have a hundred more aircraft ready to refill the squadrons thereafter. And whilst the Texas AA doesn't look like it can completely stop a dedicated CV strike dead before it hits, it will certainly munch through the aircraft in all the time they approach, drop and retreat from the drop which WILL cost the CVs a dear amount of planes and the strike is not guaranteed to sink the ship, which is a poor trade-off for potentionally crippling oneself by losing a good chunk of your limited aircraft numbers. T7 CVs and possibly t6 ones may have less problems (I don't play CVs much at all so I wouldn't know for sure), but equal tier or less are looking for a Pyrrhic strike at best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNAF] HMS_Worcester Beta Tester 1,609 posts Report post #25 Posted May 2, 2016 Some ships are simply a must, even though they are significantly worse in-game than their counterparts. The in-game Emden vs. Dresden comes to mind. On that note, might we hope that your Mikasa Appreciation Society can badger Wargaming to put the Mikasa on sale again? I am actually going to ask a member of the WG-EU community team some questions about her tonight. Mainly about organising something but I will make sure to mention that we want her to be sold again. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
