They are Back - TX

[Crusherheads]

Finaly, never saw so many montanas and yamatos straigh on each TX match, finaly...the BBs are back Also enjoying driving my Yamato in this lastes matches!  So far been a good Update imo.

[Fonfalks]

Yeah, now that WG has nerfraped poor Shimmy, all the straight line sailing captains with disabilities for pressing A or D can now proudly walk out of the shadows and sail wast oceans of WoWs with using just A key and trying to citadel cruisers. 

You moaned, you cried, you begged and now you have it, shima is dead, long live sailing in straight line. 

[MudMonkey]

The Shima is still stronk as ever. But perhaps I should shut up and don't spill any secrets.

[Ictogan]

Yeah, now that WG has nerfraped poor Shimmy, all the straight line sailing captains with disabilities for pressing A or D can now proudly walk out of the shadows and sail wast oceans of WoWs with using just A key and trying to citadel cruisers. 

You moaned, you cried, you begged and now you have it, shima is dead, long live sailing in straight line. 

 

So having 76 knot torps is a nerf?

[Drunken_Jedi]

 

So having 76 knot torps is a nerf?

 

Of course it is! Did you not know that what people wanted most was Shimikaze's armed with Mk 48 ADCAP torpedoes that track their targets with active sonar and actively spot for the team? God sake! Noobs! 

 

Of course, it just means that the "spam from 20km" type of players will actually have to play something and learn to play the game better. Good DD captains will use ambush tactics and give their prey absolutely no room for maneuver. It will be glorious 

[Crusherheads]

Honestly... if you think shimikaze was nerfed... u a "layback" player no diferent from those moaning BB players(with a good reason)...

 

Shimikaze its still deadly and honestly a good shimikaze player can wreck anything at his range with those zaos torpedos. 

 

If you wana have a good performance with shimikaze, perform the best play u can do with the ship advandges instent of slacking behinde of ur friendlys.

 

 

[TheCinC]

Were they ever gone?

[ghostbuster_]

Yeah, now that WG has nerfraped poor Shimmy, all the straight line sailing captains with disabilities for pressing A or D can now proudly walk out of the shadows and sail wast oceans of WoWs with using just A key and trying to citadel cruisers. 

You moaned, you cried, you begged and now you have it, shima is dead, long live sailing in straight line. 

Dont do drama here. Its dead for long range torp spammers like you. Its time for you to show some skill, to press some more a ,d to escape. Get close, take some risks like other ships do, you will get even better results. But there is no need to cry about new torpedos.

[Fonfalks]

Dont do drama here. Its dead for long range torp spammers like you. Its time for you to show some skill, to press some more a ,d to escape. Get close, take some risks like other ships do, you will get even better results. But there is no need to cry about new torpedos.

 

Sure sure lets not do any drama, fear not my topic is already deleted by busy bee mod and everything is fine. WG killed ship that i farmed for god knows how long and in 1 nice patch made it unplayable, where is the harm in that. Why you try to label me in all kinds of terms like "long range torp spammers" is a bit beyond me as is your insistence that slow, poorly armed DD should go withing 8 km range in all battles eve thou he will get killed in vast majority of situations after first spot ( as i have seen today with many shimas while playing Amagi) beyond me. 

[Comrad_StaIin]

my Yamato/Montana wrecks again...as they did before

 

[aboomination]

Yeah, now that WG has nerfraped poor Shimmy, all the straight line sailing captains with disabilities for pressing A or D can now proudly walk out of the shadows and sail wast oceans of WoWs with using just A key and trying to citadel cruisers. 

You moaned, you cried, you begged and now you have it, shima is dead, long live sailing in straight line. 

 

I don't see how the Shima is dead, the Minekaze still requires more skill.

[C4PT41N_0BV10US]

Well, if BB's are back, time to abuse boosted invisifire and try to get that 300.000 damage game on Des.

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

 

Of course it is! Did you not know that what people wanted most was Shimikaze's armed with Mk 48 ADCAP torpedoes that track their targets with active sonar and actively spot for the team? God sake! Noobs! 

 

Of course, it just means that the "spam from 20km" type of players will actually have to play something and learn to play the game better. Good DD captains will use ambush tactics and give their prey absolutely no room for maneuver. It will be glorious 

I think you can say its actually Status Quo right now. The first thing i did today was equip my Shima with Zao torps because they fit my aggressive playstyle better then anything and i can tell you, it is NO dodgeing 15 Zao torps traveling at 76knots fired from stealth at 6-8k away from youre BB, you are dead,

But then again you will get rid of all them 20k teamkiller torpspammers that just got luckyhits on ships they didnt even know were there. They are gonne be easy to dodge in the future. But if you meet a good Shimacaptain, well, say youre prays.

Sure their is gonna be some cruisers that can screen for youre BB but they will never be able to dodge those torps aswell so just hope he uses radar at right moment. And with module and captskills you get some really short reload on those Zao torps.

[Fonfalks]

I think you can say its actually Status Quo right now. The first thing i did today was equip my Shima with Zao torps because they fit my aggressive playstyle better then anything and i can tell you, it is NO dodgeing 15 Zao torps traveling at 76knots fired from stealth at 6-8k away from youre BB, you are dead,

But then again you will get rid of all them 20k teamkiller torpspammers that just got luckyhits on ships they didnt even know were there. They are gonne be easy to dodge in the future. But if you meet a good Shimacaptain, well, say youre prays.

Sure their is gonna be some cruisers that can screen for youre BB but they will never be able to dodge those torps aswell so just hope he uses radar at right moment. And with module and captskills you get some really short reload on those Zao torps.

 

I really want to play in same matches you play "mr aggressive shima" with no cariers planes, no gunboats, no cruisers, no radars, no DDs, no scout planes, etc. 

What i saw today playing with Amagi was that shimas died like flies as soon as they got spotted. Like in 5 seconds shima was dead. Second shima later died within about 10 seconds because it popped smoke fast enough after getting spotted, but was killed by MR radar. At 8 kms ( and usually its much closer because 8 km is max torp range, as you know you need to adjust for travel time/distance of target ship) you cant do anything to survive if there is carrier with brain or gunboat that isnt asleep or cruiser that can hit something, especially with radar. You are just DEAD. 

[Elenortirion]

 

I really want to play in same matches you play "mr aggressive shima" with no cariers planes, no gunboats, no cruisers, no radars, no DDs, no scout planes, etc. 

What i saw today playing with Amagi was that shimas died like flies as soon as they got spotted. Like in 5 seconds shima was dead. Second shima later died within about 10 seconds because it popped smoke fast enough after getting spotted, but was killed by MR radar. At 8 kms ( and usually its much closer because 8 km is max torp range, as you know you need to adjust for travel time/distance of target ship) you cant do anything to survive if there is carrier with brain or gunboat that isnt asleep or cruiser that can hit something, especially with radar. You are just DEAD. 

 

I'd point it out as a skill issue of last of shima players you've seen, look at it this way - people were used to pretty easy gameplay of never being spotted, and now they had a shock therapy [and lesson] on what they can possibly do when they actually get spotted, those who'll not abandon class and will take their lesson and learn how to play as a DD under fire will in long term turn into even deadlier captains than they ever were.....

 

I myself might even consider going back to ranking those IJN DDs with those changes in place

 

as for more BBs surfacing according to OP - I only wonder how long it will take for cruisers to again put forums on flames on how they are unplayable because of just too many of battleships around.....

[Noobsplatter]

Dont do drama here. Its dead for long range torp spammers like you. Its time for you to show some skill, to press some more a ,d to escape. Get close, take some risks like other ships do, you will get even better results. But there is no need to cry about new torpedos.

 

I just cannot let this chance to toss fuel on the fire go to waste.

 

*Ahem* Why should he(or I) have to "show skill" when straightsailing captains won`t? Check bait mate 

[Seaman_Staines1]

Yeah, now that WG has nerfraped poor Shimmy, all the straight line sailing captains with disabilities for pressing A or D can now proudly walk out of the shadows and sail wast oceans of WoWs with using just A key and trying to citadel cruisers. 

You moaned, you cried, you begged and now you have it, shima is dead, long live sailing in straight line. 

 

[Crusherheads]

 

I just cannot let this chance to toss fuel on the fire go to waste.

 

*Ahem* Why should he(or I) have to "show skill" when straightsailing captains won`t? Check bait mate 

 

I dont understand you people, why does everyone thinks that every BB player sails straigh line? Seriously... With my yamato i usely dancing with him(even thouth it screws the turret rotation) and play with the Speed, although trying to escape from 15 torpedos u can dogde a few although u will get hit by 4-6 or maybe more if you are alone, reasons either Team aint working togeter or not doing their work.

 

So between those torpedos you think was a BB on those few seconds become useless, a good thing? Seriously? If u say yes, then u are freaking arrogant for whoever crying about the BB captains for crying.

 

Sure DD are counters of BB, but not to a point that shimikazes stays behinde every Cruiser or BB and spamming torpedos and forget? Ofc they deserve somekind of nerf or some form to bring some dificult playing with the Shimikaze gameplay.

[Noobsplatter]

 

I dont understand you people, why does everyone thinks that every BB player sails straigh line? Seriously... With my yamato i usely dancing with him(even thouth it screws the turret rotation) and play with the Speed, although trying to escape from 15 torpedos u can dogde a few although u will get hit by 4-6 or maybe more if you are alone, reasons either Team aint working togeter or not doing their work.

 

So between those torpedos you think was a BB on those few seconds become useless, a good thing? Seriously? If u say yes, then u are freaking arrogant for whoever crying about the BB captains for crying.

 

Sure DD are counters of BB, but not to a point that shimikazes stays behinde every Cruiser or BB and spamming torpedos and forget? Ofc they deserve somekind of nerf or some form to bring some dificult playing with the Shimikaze gameplay.

 

It`s ok, I scream at shimas myself when in yamato. But the 20km torps never felt overpowered in any way, the borderhugging mentality of the average T10 player and lack of cv`s just made it to tempting for the masses and to easy to keep doing so. I did not play mine so often and found it more fun to hunt it in my khab. It should be said though that most people were quite good at dodging torps but there were some potatoes that had permanently destroyed A and D turrets 

 

I am not opposed to the new shima though since it gives more options in terms of playstyle, but I do think that the 20km detection nerf + speed nerf was overkill (second option is still nice though).

[miho11]

Finaly, never saw so many montanas and yamatos straigh on each TX match, finaly...the BBs are back Also enjoying driving my Yamato in this lastes matches!  So far been a good Update imo.

 

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[ghostbuster_]

 

I just cannot let this chance to toss fuel on the fire go to waste.

 

*Ahem* Why should he(or I) have to "show skill" when straightsailing captains won`t? Check bait mate 

 

all other players have to show skill too. but now the shimakaze players also should show skill. and this afraids people like him because he wont be able to sit in the safe one and spam torps without ay skill. 

[Crusherheads]

 

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meh... you a tiers 9... if u had a yamato u did notice what i mean also was during the evening

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

 

I really want to play in same matches you play "mr aggressive shima" with no cariers planes, no gunboats, no cruisers, no radars, no DDs, no scout planes, etc. 

What i saw today playing with Amagi was that shimas died like flies as soon as they got spotted. Like in 5 seconds shima was dead. Second shima later died within about 10 seconds because it popped smoke fast enough after getting spotted, but was killed by MR radar. At 8 kms ( and usually its much closer because 8 km is max torp range, as you know you need to adjust for travel time/distance of target ship) you cant do anything to survive if there is carrier with brain or gunboat that isnt asleep or cruiser that can hit something, especially with radar. You are just DEAD. 

You can play with me anyday, i like company! Sure, i didnt say it didnt take any skill to have success with those Zao torps, and sure you will meet some radarcruisers, some spotterplanes and other stuff, but how often do you really see a CV in T10 games anymore? I see them maybe 1 out of 12 games. And spotterplanes and radar are so fast over. The only way to kill of a full health DD in 20 seconds is if he [edited]up and fires or have skilled out of last stand.

 

Otherwise you will spot all cruisers and BBs long before they can spot you and about 80% of torpattacks you will have youre target heading straight towards you which means that you can fire those 15 76knots torps about 10k away from target which is almost borderrange for radar, and as i said their is no dodging those. And IF you would miss that salvo you vill have a new salvo of 15 torps in about a minute with skills and modules.

 

So i can only speak for me here but these changes to Shimakaze was the best that ever happened to me in this game. Suddenly my Shimagames are fun again. And im not saying that i dont die, i sure do but often i take 2-3 with me and thats a good trade. 

[ghostbuster_]

 

Sure sure lets not do any drama, fear not my topic is already deleted by busy bee mod and everything is fine. WG killed ship that i farmed for god knows how long and in 1 nice patch made it unplayable, where is the harm in that. Why you try to label me in all kinds of terms like "long range torp spammers" is a bit beyond me as is your insistence that slow, poorly armed DD should go withing 8 km range in all battles eve thou he will get killed in vast majority of situations after first spot ( as i have seen today with many shimas while playing Amagi) beyond me. 

 

its not unplayable. tell me, why should shima not take any risks while everyone else taking so many risks in every single battle? it is playable bu people are used to spam torps and let them travel 16-20 km and get some lucky hits. its not like that anymore. shimas need also show some skill and thats how it should be. 

 

and today i had 2 tier 10 battles. and in both of them shimas were at the top of the scoreboard. even in the first one i was second with high calibre, confederate, 182k damage. as you see, skilled player doesnt have any trouble. they actually got benefts from that patch. and i suggest you not to whine further more because you started being funny.

[Crusherheads]

 

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