Tirpitz Owners :)

[cro_pwr]

Well, first of all, i don't want to shame anyone, i won't post names etc, but had this gem in last game...

Start of the game, Tirpitz say "my first game in Tirpitz", and im like, so what, its same as other BBs, so I'm like, you played other BBs? and his answer is NO. Ok, i tought he is trolling, checked his stats, and he has 79 games overall, all in cruisers, highest tier is 5

So, we proceed into the game, I'm in nagato, beaten down to a pulp (got dreadnought from that game), and I came behind the island running into the enemy Tirpitz

So I'm like oh sh!t oh sh!t (I'm giving him broadside), but, I survived...  then that guy parked his tirpitz 12km broadside from me (full stop), and proceeded to fight me like that (BTW, seriously, does Tirpiz even have a citadel??? cause I've never EVER hit one)

Anyway, as i said, i survived, so i was like wtf, and i checked his stats. He has astonishing 116 battles, from which 13 are in tirpitz, rest are in cruisers up to tier 5 (I'm starting to see a pattern here xD)

 

 

So, point of this topic? Well done WG for allowing everyone and their mothers too to install the game and jump into t8-10 games next day.

Since obviously screw logic, screw your gameplay experience, screw everything, just give us money.

 

*sidenote: when i started to play this game, i mainly played IJN DDs, and i was ALWAYS targeting Tirpiz with torps first (never failed )... guess its time to dust off my fubuki

 

*sidenote 2: in attached files there are SS of chat and that guys stats

[Ictogan]

It has always been like that with premiums and it will always be like that. Btw, Tirpitz has a very small citadel combined with very good armor, but it's not quite as good as it sounds because it can stilll take lots of damage from regular penetrations in situations where other ships would be overpenetrated.

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

Bellow 100 battles - check

Max tier 5 - check

Tier 8 peremium - check

25k avg. dmg and 0 frags on Tirpitz - check

 

Working as intended.

[herrjott]

Today, I've seen a player with 2 T1 games in PvE  and 14 PvP in the Tirpitz, nothing else...

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

Today, I've seen a player with 2 T1 games in PvE  and 14 PvP in the Tirpitz, nothing else...

 

Even better. Latest Tirpitz premium shop offers are finally enough to cover the expenses of building the wg lunar base.

[cro_pwr]

It has always been like that with premiums and it will always be like that. Btw, Tirpitz has a very small citadel combined with very good armor, but it's not quite as good as it sounds because it can stilll take lots of damage from regular penetrations in situations where other ships would be overpenetrated.

 

as I said, when i started playing, Tirpitz was my favourite target when playing IJN dds

and yes, I'm dealing good dmg to it, but I never hit a citadel... tried shooting under the chimneys, under the turrets, under anything jesus, never hit a citadel... (even against a parked guy 12km away from me -.-')

[Aotearas]

(BTW, seriously, does Tirpiz even have a citadel??? cause I've never EVER hit one)

 

 

Citadelus Tirpitzium is a very elusive and shy creature that will hide within its protective shell as soon as it perceives any form of danger. Maritime experts suggest imitating its mating call to lure them out. It sounds like a series of rythmic knocks in a roughly thirty second interval, however results indicate a remarkable variation in Citadelus Tirpitzium's oral repertoire as calls with eight, nine, ten and even twelve knocks per period have reportedly led to success. Current leading scientific theory implies that several subspecies exist, indistinguishable by appearance and only seperable via their calls. Noted subspecies are Citadelus Tirpitzium Aurum, Citadelus Torpetzium Maximus and Citadelus Tirpitzium Virgo. The latter appears to have a distinct behavioural pattern to flush its side to rivals and potential mating partners alike. There is however dissentous opinions floating around that regard the Virgo subspecies behaviour as a mark of adolescency instead, though empiric evidence has yet to provide a significant basis for that theory.

[LilJumpa]

Does "Löwe" in WoT ring a bell? Same thing and the game survived even more T8 Premium vehicles.

 

Just because it's hillarious although different WG game:

 

 

 

 

[cro_pwr]

 

Citadelus Tirpitzium is a very elusive and shy creature that will hide within its protective shell as soon as it perceives any form of danger. Maritime experts suggest imitating its mating call to lure them out. It sounds like a series of rythmic knocks in a roughly thirty second interval, however results indicate a remarkable variation in Citadelus Tirpitzium's oral repertoire as calls with eight, nine, ten and even twelve knocks per period have reportedly led to success. Current leading scientific theory implies that several subspecies exist, indistinguishable by appearance and only seperable via their calls. Noted subspecies are Citadelus Tirpitzium Aurum, Citadelus Torpetzium Maximus and Citadelus Tirpitzium Virgo. The latter appears to have a distinct behavioural pattern to flush its side to rivals and potential mating partners alike. There is however dissentous opinions floating around that regard the Virgo subspecies behaviour as a mark of adolescency instead, though empiric evidence has yet to provide a significant basis for that theory.

 

did you...

did you just write that thing down?

[Srle_Vigilante]

Tirpitz unfortunately has that reputation of being f.... bad a..  which ofc makes it a target for them wallet warriors. I wish that wasn't the case but, i like my Tirpitz  plox dont into nerf

[Vaderan]

Tirpitz is very vulnerable above 11km range. Even tier 6 356mm guns can penetrate it´s citadell at that range. Well, in theory. Because, RNGesus has to let your shells go where you aimed them...

[Brett50]

I like people like that, means that when I take my Tirpitz out people think i'm just going to be an idiot until I angle, bounce everything coming at me and torp cocky CA's and BB's

I only wish I could make the Warspite work

[fnord_disc]

Tirpitz is very vulnerable above 11km range. Even tier 6 356mm guns can penetrate it´s citadell at that range. Well, in theory. Because, RNGesus has to let your shells go where you aimed them...

 

The areas where you get those plunging shots are annoyingly small though, it's more likely you get a bunch of superstructure or casemate penetrations.

[Tyrendian89]

I've once found a profile with a Tirpitz below 10k avg. damage over 90 games iirc... how anyone can keep playing like that is beyond me.

[Unintentional_submarine]

BTW, seriously, does Tirpiz even have a citadel??? cause I've never EVER hit one

 

Yes, and unlike what has been indicated here, her citadel isn't particularly small. It is however supremely well armoured.

 

There are really only a few, and special circumstances where you will citadel her. And getting closer is just about the least successful way to get a citadel as it actually decreases the chances of doing so.

However, her forward magazine area is perhaps the most common 'surprise' citadel people will get on her. In that area, while in theory the armour is the strongest, the turtleback deck is sloped at a less steep angle. This means that you can, if lucky and at a bit of range, not only penetrate the belt, but also the turtleback deck. However, even there it is a reasonably uncommon occurrence.

The second most common 'surprise' citadel is from really far away with high angle guns, like those on a North Carolina. Flat trajectory guns like Tirpitz' own guns won't achieve this outside of the most favourable circumstances. Tirpitz protection from plunging fire is not as bad as some make it out to be, in fact her central weather deck is better than all but Yamato (50mm vs 57mm). But her rear deck, covering the access to the rear most part of Tirpitz' citadel is reasonably weak and if you can get above the auto-bounce angle (30 degrees downward angle) you have a chance. This is generally only possible at extreme ranges with ships like North Carolina. And generally only agianst the rear deck, so look for a Tirpitz running away, but not perfectly so.

 

Those citadels are rather hard to specifically aim for. Especially the latter one. And the first one invites a lot of water splashes, so for the relatively small chance of getting it, I don't think it is worth it to fish for it.

However, Tirpitz does have one very significant weakness. And it is one that ties into her very nature. Because she is fast and turns fair for her size, she heels over a lot in a turn. So let's say you catch a Tirpitz broadside on, he knows it is the bad position so he turns. At shorter ranges he is likely to try and close the range even more, to get to use the torps. So he turns in. At full speed Tirpitz will 'show her red', and the red part of her ship isn't that well protected, and can easily be citadelled, provided it is hit of course. So look for a Tirpitz turn in towards you.

At longer ranges the Tirpitz is more likely to turn away. Again, this is good for you. Because when turning away she will increase the angle of fall onto her deck, or allow incoming shells to hit her upper belt and then hit the turtleback deck with more power than anticipated, again potentially allowing for a penetration. Both of these situations are great for you.

[creamgravy]

Derpy Derpitz owner checking in. It's a great ship for derping about in 

 

Hey, who pays for all these lovely new tech tree lines? Umikaze seal clubbers?

 

I only wish I could make the Warspite work

 

No idea why I love playing Warspite but she always manages to find Tirpitz (and Cleveland) citadels for me.

 

 

 

[RUSSIANBlAS]

Most reliable Tirpitz citadel location is under the front turrets I've found. Either at close range to power through it or really long range with plunging fire.

 

You can do 10k+ damage per salvo to it with other BB as almost nothing will overpen it because of it's armour pattern. 

 

Still though, if others choose to derp with expensive ships they've got no idea how to use then it's their problem not really anyone elses....

[fnord_disc]

You don't even need to hit the citadel - a well-aimed salvo from 13-14km often does 15-20k damage because nothing overpenetrates.

[Aotearas]

 

did you...

did you just write that thing down?

 

Aye.

 

On a different note, yesterday I managed to couble-citadel a Tirpitz from ~8km in my New Mexico. Including some normal pens that was a 29k damage salvo. Naturally I proceeded to laud that unprecedented feat in TeamSpeak and channel chat.

 

Main battery magazines do not take kindly to AP below 10km if you can hit them.

[Syrchalis]

Why complain? Easy food. Sure, you get them on your team too, but see it this way, 3 BBs per side. 3 chances for a noob Tirpitz. But one slot on your team is always taken - by you - which cannot be a noob Tirpitz. So on average you will have more on the enemy side. Credits and XP piñatas.

 

Just let them soak all the damage - that's not just good thinking, it's actually a proper tactic, because with their powerful citadel armor they can take it, you probably can't.

[Tyrendian89]

 

 

Just let them soak all the damage - that's not just good thinking, it's actually a proper tactic, because with their powerful citadel armor they can take it, you probably can't.

 

sadly, that's now how it works... A good Tirpitz will soak the damage. A bad one will sit at 21km trying to not get shot.

[Syrchalis]

You can always talk to them. Noobs are more likely to listen to "charge at them, you have good armor!" than mediocre players who are firmly convinced sniping from far is the best tactic. Just be smart about it and you can make use of them.

 

But even if not, enjoy the free XP/credits from enemy noob Tirpitzes. I loved them back when Midway/Essex had 2 torpedo squads. Gave me some nice record numbers.

[Xerkics]

Its their money if they want to donate to support the game to make this a successful project more power to them. And as long as they are courteous and dont team damage you cant blame someone for being bad realistically.  its the nature of the game monetization model

[Syrchalis]

Yes, you can look at them like smokers. THEY pay money, so you don't have to pay (or at least not as much).

[Xerkics]

The game is designed with this in mind . Its better to try to be helpful and work around them Tirpitz is here to stay and not going anywhere so its better to learn to deal with having inexperienced players driving it . Its also very forgiving ship . Its my only tier 8 BB and i enjoy it a lot.