The Ship that suffered the most from AFT Nerf

[Tuuletar]

Hey

 

I been wondering if the developers have even noticed / cared about what happened to Marblehead.

AFT nerf has hit hard to many ships but i think Mablehead suffered the most of it.

 

They buffed some ships like Albany and Kutuzov for the loss of range.

But i think Marblehead needs 1-2km more range for the compensation.

 

It will be spotted before it can shoot.

Only way now to fix this issue is having Concealment Expert but i think its kinda harsh.

 

Marblehead has always been in "not so good ship category" with alot of flaws.

 

But dont get me wrong, I love this ship and thats why i made this thread because i care  : ) 

[Comrad_StaIin]

lol that thing still wrecks crap

[Ze_Reckless]

If Marblehead were russian it would be buffed. (see range of M Kutuzow, Murmansk)

As we all know from history Russian ships were always better than Americans.

 

Joke aside, yes. Marblehead suffers really hard. You have to be more offensive to be able to do anything, yet any BB can one-hit-kill you at any angle from any range.

I always try to run after a DD and support him. When I have killed the enemy DDs which this ship is excellent for, I consider my mission complete.

[Comrad_StaIin]

Murmansk didnt got a range buff

 

Marblehead has that range because it is an Omaha B-Hull

[JapLance]

No need to buff Marblehead. I played most of my 142 Omaha battles with B hull and no AFT skill and it was perfectly playable.

[Lin3]

Omaha with B hull and no AFT may well have been "perfectly playable". With AFT it was elevated into a really good tier 5 ship.

 

With AFT you had the option to whittle down BB's at long range. Especially whilst being mostly stern on. With the C hull or no AFT the Omaha is significantly worse at this.

 

 

I'd expect Wargaming to have a look at the post AFT nerf statistics of all ships, including the Marblehead, and to rebalance them accordingly.

[Azalgor]

And nothing about Koningsberg and Nurnberg... Says a lot about the comunity that only wants a buf to something only they play. 

[xCaptainObviousx]

But the Marblehead isn't just a plain clone of the Omaha's B hull, it's got far worse rudder shift time and nerfed gun traverse arcs which forces it to expose more broadside to fire all it's guns and takes way longer to "wiggle"

[KaraMon]

Mogami was hit hard by the nerfbat

[waxx25]

Hey

 

I been wondering if the developers have even noticed / cared about what happened to Marblehead.

AFT nerf has hit hard to many ships but i think Mablehead suffered the most of it.

 

They buffed some ships like Albany and Kutuzov for the loss of range.

But i think Marblehead needs 1-2km more range for the compensation.

 

It will be spotted before it can shoot.

Only way now to fix this issue is having Concealment Expert but i think its kinda harsh.

 

Marblehead has always been in "not so good ship category" with alot of flaws.

 

But dont get me wrong, I love this ship and thats why i made this thread because i care  : ) 

 

umm going out on a limb here and, but......you own a Marblehead and think the nerfbat hit it the hardest and ships like the Mogami, Cleveland and Omaha didnt do as bad?....Regardless of facts and spreadsheets done by other players and WG showing otherwise. Yes OP, I commend your level of ignorance....otherwise, good troll you got me.

Edit: I just checked your stats.....wow man just wow, how someone can play the Blyska so much is just scary.

[xCaptainObviousx]

Mogami was hit hard by the nerfbat

 

True, the Mogami needed a buff, more so than the Marblehead or the damn MK.

[von_chom]

mind you, Marblehead has lower MM weight (dont confuse with limited MM)

[Kurbain]

I agree that the Marblehead could use a range buff. Currently it gets spotted before it can shoot and due to bad rudder shift time it is more difficult to dodge shells than it is for the Omaha, which means you should be further away and not closer.

 

 

Azalgor, on 17 April 2016 - 08:01 AM, said:

And nothing about Koningsberg and Nurnberg... Says a lot about the comunity that only wants a buf to something only they play. 

 

The Königsberg and Nürnberg got 16,5 KM range. Why would they need a range buff?

Shooting at targets past 16,5 KM with them is silly anyway since their shells lose penetration power and speed very quickly over distance due to the light weight.

[Tuuletar]

Oh wow, did i hurt someones feelings.

 

umm going out on a limb here and, but......you own a Marblehead and think the nerfbat hit it the hardest and ships like the Mogami, Cleveland and Omaha didnt do as bad?....Regardless of facts and spreadsheets done by other players and WG showing otherwise. Yes OP, I commend your level of ignorance....otherwise, good troll you got me.

Edit: I just checked your stats.....wow man just wow, how someone can play the Blyska so much is just scary.

 

You are a troll or you dont respect others opinions at all.

The fact is your loved Cleveland or Omaha still has superior stats compared to Marblehead.

You are the ignorant one.

 

[waxx25]

Oh wow, did i hurt someones feelings.

 

You are a troll or you dont respect others opinions at all.

The fact is your loved Cleveland or Omaha still has superior stats compared to Marblehead.

You are the ignorant one.

 

 

No I just accept the changes as they are and hate cry babies who want their ships the way they used to be.

[Spellfire40]

Mogami was hit hard by the nerfbat

 

You could live without AFT but that Turet rotation is what really kills the 155mm config.

[Trigger_Happy_Dad]

I'd vote for Kuma, Omaha and Mogami....    

 

[ColonelPete]

Hey

 

I been wondering if the developers have even noticed / cared about what happened to Marblehead.

AFT nerf has hit hard to many ships but i think Mablehead suffered the most of it.

 

They buffed some ships like Albany and Kutuzov for the loss of range.

But i think Marblehead needs 1-2km more range for the compensation.

 

It will be spotted before it can shoot.

Only way now to fix this issue is having Concealment Expert but i think its kinda harsh.

 

Marblehead has always been in "not so good ship category" with alot of flaws.

 

But dont get me wrong, I love this ship and thats why i made this thread because i care  : ) 

 

Yes, poor Marblehead. She even gets outperformed by the Murmansk! That outrage!

 

Player Average for Ships [ at 2016/04/09 ]

Nation Class Tier Name Win Damage Kills/Battle Survival JP CA 5 Furutaka 48.48 17.958 0.49 22.29 KM CA 5 Koenigsberg 48.62 21.371 0.59 24.10 SN CA 5 Kirov 50.43 28.406 0.76 25.39 SN CA 5 Murmansk 51.93 29.171 0.83 27.91 US CA 5 Omaha 48.97 20.023 0.56 20.40 US CA 5 Marblehead 51.07 28.437 0.93 28.07

[Tuuletar]

Marblehead is mostly used by Veteran players.

That is only reason it has nice stats.

Also because its not owned by masses so there is not so mutch games so the old days still pump up the stats.

 

 

Reality is that its bad ship but users know how to play so they can counter every flaw it has.

[Gudgeon]

I have the Marblehead.....It is hard to play due to the concealment and range of guns, but I am hoping WG will buff it....but I guess there is no way it can be allowed to almost match the Murmansk.....

[t3h3th32]

And don't forget Cleveland, guns turn with similar speed to my Atago, lol.

 

For more info on AFT, check out: http://bringbackaft.tk/

 

Cheers,

~t3h'Pâr4d0x

[ColonelPete]

Marblehead is mostly used by Veteran players.

That is only reason it has nice stats.

Also because its not owned by masses so there is not so mutch games so the old days still pump up the stats.

 

 

Reality is that its bad ship but users know how to play so they can counter every flaw it has.

These are weekly stats.

Nothing from the old days.

[aboomination]

Thought this was going to be about the St. Louis....sigh, good times.

[Tuuletar]

These are weekly stats.

Nothing from the old days.

 

http://warships.today/vehicle/4248745968/eu/Marblehead

 

Well this are and they look mostly the same

[ColonelPete]

I do not base my argument on these flawed statistics.