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Im desesperate, for the last month or so, i had a great time playing bbs, 

I'm mostly a nagato and fuso player, and i had like 60 avg dmg in each one with 400 games played.

So in last 30 or 40 days i improved my performance with then so significantly that i was able to reach 67k avg

damage.

Considering the amount of games that i had already played that was no easy to do.

But watching http://wows-numbers.com/player/502231205,PzAbteilung/   i realised that i was doing 80k avg damage with both ships for the last 200 battles in nagato and fuso.

Now, since april fools more or less, im unable to do nothing, seems that i forget the way to aim or something, or the guns doesnt hit where are supposed, now i make noob damage, below average, i dont even hit perfect broadside enemies.
 

my question is: im having a bad time? or something in accuracy has changed??

 
 
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I'm having such times also. But its more like daily changes.

One day - superb fights, citadels all over. Next day - it just sucks, dispersion is from here to mars.

 

I'm very suspicious about Win Ratio - why for over 3 months I have always about 54-56% of wins?

 

So I always telling WG - the game is great but I get a feeling that the win/lose or a battle performance is not up to me.

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Hi all,

 

Argh... today was... ahh... :(

 

r2ozk5.jpg

 

The level on incompetence I saw today (see the results above) was extreme... and in every single game 1-2 AFKers in my team...

 

I simply can't believe that people in Tier VII / VIII / IX still don't know the basics of tactics and strategy... I literally had to tell members of my team to defend base... in one game there was even one Kongo division that rushed forward and died in first few minutes (regardless of our pleads not to do that)... oh my...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

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yeah, this happens to me a lot, i always go back to my 'ol painless, The Fuso, or my 'ol faithful Myoko, to vent some rage, they are beautifully balanced and very fun, that i forget and get over my dry period 

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Dispersion can be a a [edited] in this game,,, Shooting at a tirpitz and amagi sailing in line with each other i managed to put a shot from 1 turret from the North Carolina at 19,5km ish range when fired,  one shot landed half an amagi in front and one landed about a quarter of the length of the tirpits behind. and the 3rd landed short and somewhat centerd.  The listed dispersion for NC is 271m but it doesnt feel like the dispersion in game is right,,, Even if the distances in game are ''weird''

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We all have periods. Where we are bad. The reasons can be many. Maybe you had a few bad games and you were getting stressed or bad tempered, and not focusing so much on the game.

Maybe you were just unlucky with getting poor teammates for a while. Maybe you took a break for a class of ship and now returned to it, unable to repeat the previous results untill you get back in the rythm.

 

I used to be rather good in Kongo and Fuso (60k and 70k avg), but then I took a break to play more CV and DD, and not I can't hit the broadside of a barn, have to relearn them again.

Also yesterday, me, Babykim and Havaduck were getting really bad results, barely doing anything. Many times on of us would die within a min of the start. We still one 5 out of the 7 games we played.

 

Short version: We all have bad streaks occasionally, they can happen for many reasons. The best way to deal with them is to take it slow and not let it get to you. If it does, take a small break and then return. Letting your temper go high or the game stress you out will just make you play really bad. So keep calm, and carry on. :)

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Hi all,

 

We all have periods. Where we are bad. The reasons can be many. Maybe you had a few bad games and you were getting stressed or bad tempered, and not focusing so much on the game.

Maybe you were just unlucky with getting poor teammates for a while. Maybe you took a break for a class of ship and now returned to it, unable to repeat the previous results untill you get back in the rythm.

 

I used to be rather good in Kongo and Fuso (60k and 70k avg), but then I took a break to play more CV and DD, and not I can't hit the broadside of a barn, have to relearn them again.

Also yesterday, me, Babykim and Havaduck were getting really bad results, barely doing anything. Many times on of us would die within a min of the start. We still one 5 out of the 7 games we played.

 

Short version: We all have bad streaks occasionally, they can happen for many reasons. The best way to deal with them is to take it slow and not let it get to you. If it does, take a small break and then return. Letting your temper go high or the game stress you out will just make you play really bad. So keep calm, and carry on. :)

 

 

I know... and I am trying to... :)

 

But in one of the loses yesterday my team lost (I was already sunk at that time - but I managed to have 3 kills I think) by just few points because our 40% HP "New Mexico" simply run away from enemy 30% HP "Pensacola" (at range of 10 km no less) and enemy cruiser took away from us one of the 4 CAPs (it was "Domination" game)... I simply can't explain enough how furious I was (and others who watched that)... we tried to persuade him to fight and not to run away but it was worthless... he was total coward (and at the bottom of the board at the end of the game)... <SIGH> :(

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

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We all have periods. Where we are bad.

So care to explain what happened here?

http://wowreplays.com/Replay/3698

http://wowreplays.com/Replay/4004

 

Argh... today was... ahh... :(

 

r2ozk5.jpg

 

The level on incompetence I saw today (see the results above) was extreme... and in every single game 1-2 AFKers in my team...

Had near 96k average damage in Wednesday's eight matches in most of them enemy team very fast after start...

Only half were wins.

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for teamplay problems i will just say... weekend...

 

Yup.... tends to go a bit titts up on weekends...its just the sheer diversity of people playing. As For Dispersion you have to remember the camo the player has on their ship your aiming at...accuracy is diminished by 4-5% depending on the camouflage you use.. ahem... sorry pay for!:)

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We all have periods. Where we are bad. The reasons can be many. Maybe you had a few bad games and you were getting stressed or bad tempered, and not focusing so much on the game.

Maybe you were just unlucky with getting poor teammates for a while. Maybe you took a break for a class of ship and now returned to it, unable to repeat the previous results untill you get back in the rythm.

 

I used to be rather good in Kongo and Fuso (60k and 70k avg), but then I took a break to play more CV and DD, and not I can't hit the broadside of a barn, have to relearn them again.

Also yesterday, me, Babykim and Havaduck were getting really bad results, barely doing anything. Many times on of us would die within a min of the start. We still one 5 out of the 7 games we played.

 

Short version: We all have bad streaks occasionally, they can happen for many reasons. The best way to deal with them is to take it slow and not let it get to you. If it does, take a small break and then return. Letting your temper go high or the game stress you out will just make you play really bad. So keep calm, and carry on. :)

 

This, I had a 75k average damage on my Warspite a few days ago, granted I'd only played about 20 matches in it but still I thought it was pretty good.  Last few days I've seen that drop to 61k.  I know why it happens, when I get a couple of bad games instead of saying 'that's enough for tonight' I press on always assuming that the next match will be better, it never is but that's because at this time I'm stressed at how I'm playing.  

My best advise therefore would be, if you have a couple of bad games switch ships to something comfortable in lower tiers and come back to the 'bad' ship another day.

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My Kongo have a dispersion of 221 meters and some times you can't hit a cruiser from 6 km away 

 

that has nothing to do with dispersion.. that is all you :trollface:

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Hi all,

 

Hi all,

 

Argh... today was... ahh... :(

 

r2ozk5.jpg

 

The level on incompetence I saw today (see the results above) was extreme... and in every single game 1-2 AFKers in my team...

 

I simply can't believe that people in Tier VII / VIII / IX still don't know the basics of tactics and strategy... I literally had to tell members of my team to defend base... in one game there was even one Kongo division that rushed forward and died in first few minutes (regardless of our pleads not to do that)... oh my...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

 

Another "great" day yesterday... :(

 

qnmm9l.jpg

 

I am absolutely stunned / flabbergasted by the level of incompetence at Tiers VII / VIII / IX lately... <SIGH>

 

 

Just two shot notices about two losses from above:

 

#1 "Two Brothers" - 4 point Domination

"New Mexico" went into the narrows between "Two Brothers" despite pleads not to do that - he dies immediately of course. Two minutes later one of our cruisers follows the same path - we again plead no to do that but in wain (he dies instantly as well). After 2 more minutes another our cruisers goes same way (at that time I almost have no words) - we again plead but he continues (saying that this is not dangerous at all) and dies immediately... our "Yorck" even made "Kraken Unleashed" in that game but because of those 3 suicide players we lost (I can only imagine what he felt)...

 

#2 "Bees to Honey" - 3 point Domination

Our Tier IX "Kagero" didn't think that his job is to CAP... I simply don't understand how such players managed to climb that high up the tiers...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

 

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well i had bad experiences with my team whenever i took colorado out. games where i did 100k damage were mostly lost...

 

whenever you see 2x expect 10x morons ingame...

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Hi all,

 

So care to explain what happened here?

http://wowreplays.com/Replay/3698

http://wowreplays.com/Replay/4004

 

Had near 96k average damage in Wednesday's eight matches in most of them enemy team very fast after start...

Only half were wins.

 

I finally managed to watch both replay on my laptop... oh my... not for the faint hearted... <SIGH>

 

The 1st one is much more heartbreaking (I felt frustrated watching it you lose the game in last seconds - I can only imagine how you felt) than the 2nd one but both are paining the true picture of the level of incompetence... :(

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

 

 

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Hi all,

 

well i had bad experiences with my team whenever i took colorado out. games where i did 100k damage were mostly lost...

 

whenever you see 2x expect 10x morons ingame...

 

I had surprisingly high 65% WinRate in my Colorado until (those above) few days ago... ah well...

 

And yes - every time there is "x2" or "x3" it seems as the the player base sinks to new depths each time around... :(

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

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When  it comes to bb's we have been  hammered so hard by RNG it is almost impossible to remain consistent, and it is a known  fact WG does not want our win ratio to be very hi, they do that with  match making. This past weekend I played a lot for a change and only won a hand full of games. No matter what ship I played, BB or CA types. last weekend it seemed like anyone could citadel my nagato regardless of the angling i was doing. I have come to accept that for every 1 good game you have you will have at least 5 to 7 bad games and half of those due to shitty match making. 

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RNG is ruining this game.

 

sadly no. it is braindead players who are ruining the game. they either cant read/understand english/or just dont care about teamplay and basic tactics.

had lots of times that my team lost a won game cause of idiots not listening to simple instructions. e.g. tell a last surviving player (dd) not to show himself cause we have massive point lead, he shows himself and dies 2 seconds before the end. or tell one benson to concentrate fire on one ship cause we dont have time and they had a slight point lead, he doesnt listen and continues firing on his target. game ended and that ship survived with 800hp and benson was 6-7km away from it...

 

have lots of examples where stupidity of players ruined the game and not rng.

 

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Im desesperate, for the last month or so, i had a great time playing bbs, 

I'm mostly a nagato and fuso player, and i had like 60 avg dmg in each one with 400 games played.

So in last 30 or 40 days i improved my performance with then so significantly that i was able to reach 67k avg

damage.

Considering the amount of games that i had already played that was no easy to do.

But watching http://wows-numbers.com/player/502231205,PzAbteilung/   i realised that i was doing 80k avg damage with both ships for the last 200 battles in nagato and fuso.

 

Now, since april fools more or less, im unable to do nothing, seems that i forget the way to aim or something, or the guns doesnt hit where are supposed, now i make noob damage, below average, i dont even hit perfect broadside enemies.

 

my question is: im having a bad time? or something in accuracy has changed??

 
 

 

Few days ago i had that same problem, and honestly its from us, why?

 

By simple fact we mastered the Aim system in this game and now try to be more precise at shoting agains the enemy parts such ammunations, engine for the citadels, and honestly what i have experience the harder you try the more RNG will hammer you down. Just try playing normaly and not try to have "precise aim" for the boat and stop aiming directly for the citadels, it rarely works lol RNG loves to screw with that.

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I look at the stats from the very top players and have a WTF moment. I would love to watch them or have them teach me what im doing wrong. I have some games where ill get 4 kills (even 6 in the Monty) and then others where I play like a total noob. I guess im just average although my Monty stats are not to shabby at 77.908 dmg but still way off the leader boards.

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To combat that helpless feeling:

 

-Pick a ship not affected too badly by RNG. Nothing sucks more than aiming correctly just to get 7 splashes and an overpen. This way you're in control of how much damage you do rather than hoping that this is the game where it let's you get triple citadels every time instead of only over pens.

 

-pick a ship that can influence anywhere on the map when needed. A destroyer or cruiser can relocate easily. A kongo is fast enough to relocate AND it's guns can reach far. A colorado on the other hand is too slow to relocate and too short range to influence anywhere else. Similarly an AS carrier is nice enough but you then.rely on your team actually killing things, while a strike CV can just get the kills themselves. 

 

-assume you have to do everything yourself. So if your Base is being capped, go back. Don't rely on team mates to go back, or to succeed even if they do. If you're too slow to get back then see point 2

 

- don't go to stupid places. The island chain on 2 brothers on the far west of the map seems highly popular. It's however completely useless, and even if you kill everything there you're miles out of position to do anything else. Basically avoid the 1/2 and 9/10 line because you wouldn't be able to.respond to anything from there.

 

-do what's useful for the team, even if it isn't very glamorous or rewarding. If you're a destroyer and one cap is totally ignored, go cap it even if it means you won't get to shoot anyone for 5 mins. Similarly although that AFK BB will net you some nice XP, concentrate on players that are active first. Yes this does mean sometimes you sail backwards for several minutes just to flush a DD out of your Base. 

 

-don't die. Sometimes can't be avoided, but this is quite important. Not only does dying lose your team points and give points to the enemy, but as soon as you're dead you're 100% relying on your team to win. This is where the most frustration comes in, you've done loads of work, your team is in the lead but they manage to snatch defeat from.the jaws of victory by doing something utterly derpy. If you're not dead then you're not relying on them.

 

 

Generally by applying the above you can.get through randoms on your own without losing too much and without tearing your hair out

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RNG is ruining this game.

 

Without trying to exaggerate I've had numerous games where I've been fired upon by BB's where all except one for their shells miss badly...and that single last shell happens to hit my citadel of my cruiser of even detonate me in my dd. RNG in this game is indeed far too much of a factor but the more we miss the more we pay for ammo right? The more we're damaged the more we pay in repair costs right? RNG is needed to help keep credit values down....it's all part of the game mechanism. Helps noobs live longer too if better players are subject to a little negative rng now and then too. Noobs live longer the more inclined they are to play longer and enjoy themselves. If the bad players died too fast the playerbase might be lower, haha. Belrusian conspiracies, except this time most of it is true.
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It comes down to this - if RNG is the main factor who will win between 2 players, then there is no chance that WOWS will become eSports game. RNG factor must be minimized.

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