0ldfield Beta Tester 14 posts 9,815 battles Report post #1 Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) For average / slightly below average players like me, playing high tiers leads to a standstill in ship progression due to lack of silver: If I had 50 million silver I could buy a Shimakaze, a Fletcher and a Roon. Currently I only have like 8 million silver. Does buying a premium ship and using a premium account for farming silver help? Not really: I am on a premium account, and my Warspite has more than 1 million xp on it, approaching Captain perk 17 (30k xp away or so). I guess the only thing I can do is either cough up some more real money, or just keep accumulating more xp on Elite ships that I will never use for anything (the xp, not the ships), until I earned the money. OR: Wargaming improves the economy so much, that the lower 40% of players still keep playing instead of quitting. UPDATE: now I need 65 million silver: could buy the Ibuki in addition to the Roon, the Fletcher and the Shimakaze... - (currently I have 10 million silver). Edited April 16, 2016 by 0ldfield Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurbain Players 1,976 posts 2,773 battles Report post #2 Posted April 14, 2016 In the US and RU region high-tier (T8+) repair costs are reduced by 20% during this month as a test. If WG/Lesta are happy with the results, high-tier repair costs may be reduced permanently across all regions. In that case it will be a lot easier to afford your new ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #3 Posted April 14, 2016 Do not buy ships that quickly. Playing on a premium account should earn a lot of silver. Must have made over 13 million silver in roughly 100 games when using premium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0ldfield Beta Tester 14 posts 9,815 battles Report post #4 Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) I guess part of the problem is not only that I'm not good enough in this game, but that DDs survive the match less often than other ships, and since I played mostly Japanese and US DDs (- not to talk about the survivability of german cruisers who get citadelled often)... - I lost more money than someone who played ships that usually survive the battle. P.S.: Maybe it's only just, that after dying all the way up to Tier X, then it requires even more dying to get the silver, so that bad players have more time to learn the game before reaching Tier X ;-) P.P.S.: being the only one who rushes in / pushes forward often leads to dying first - no matter what ship I use: If I go in first as DD I get spotted by enemy gunboats or planes and get sunk by cruisers or said planes / enemy DDs. If I go in first as cruiser, I get spotted by DDs and sunk by BBs from far away; if I go in first as BB (which is hard to do, because of slow ship, but still happens) I get sunk by DDs and planes. P.P.P.S: on a last thought: I better give up on the whole "ship advancement" thing - all the premium players and Tier X players are playing for the fun of it and nothing else - why can't I do it in Tier iX or VIII... Edited April 14, 2016 by 0ldfield 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #5 Posted April 14, 2016 Play more careful. DD get more deadly if they survive untill mid or even endgame of the match. Dying early is disappointing and seriously cuts in to your profits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TWWLA] XDukenukemX Players 142 posts 9,423 battles Report post #6 Posted April 14, 2016 In the US and RU region high-tier (T8+) repair costs are reduced by 20% during this month as a test. If WG/Lesta are happy with the results, high-tier repair costs may be reduced permanently across all regions. In that case it will be a lot easier to afford your new ships. Why US and RU? Why not RU only or all at once? Things like this is really turnoff for playing my Iowa... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Pekoe_Darjeeling Weekend Tester 2,385 posts 10,008 battles Report post #7 Posted April 14, 2016 Not really: I am on a premium account, and my Warspite has more than 1 million xp on it, approaching Captain perk 17 (30k xp away or so). Buy a tier 8 premium and farm credits there. There's a big difference between tier 6 and tier 8 premium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNAF] HMS_Worcester Beta Tester 1,609 posts Report post #8 Posted April 14, 2016 Do not buy ships that quickly. Exactly, I had that problem in CBT. It is best to just concentrate on one goal at a time in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
__Katniss__ Players 790 posts 2,278 battles Report post #9 Posted April 14, 2016 For average / slightly below average players like me, playing high tiers leads to a standstill in ship progression due to lack of silver: If I had 50 million silver I could buy a Shimakaze, a Fletcher and a Roon. Currently I only have like 8 million silver. Does buying a premium ship and using a premium account for farming silver help? Not really: I am on a premium account, and my Warspite has more than 1 million xp on it, approaching Captain perk 17 (30k xp away or so). I guess the only thing I can do is either cough up some more real money, or just keep accumulating more xp on Elite ships that I will never use for anything (the xp, not the ships), until I earned the money. OR: Wargaming improves the economy so much, that the lower 40% of players still keep playing instead of quitting. https://eu.wargaming.net/shop/wows/specials/1560/ Problem solved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0ldfield Beta Tester 14 posts 9,815 battles Report post #10 Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) Play more careful. DD get more deadly if they survive untill mid or even endgame of the match. Dying early is disappointing and seriously cuts in to your profits. That is easier said then done: if I don't go for the cap as DD I'm yelled at, and if I do, the enemy spotterplanes are already waiting for me there - or the russian gunboats, who are faster than my japanese or even US DDs... - but you are right: the games where I survive longer are the better ones^^ - and since I started playing the Hipper as dedicated AA I actually DO survive longer, since I stay back with CV... - but sometimes the enemy planes don't come and then I can only contribute too late, when 80% of the game is over / lost already... - well I'll stop whining now: everyone has a good game every now and then - even me ;-) Edited April 14, 2016 by 0ldfield 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0ldfield Beta Tester 14 posts 9,815 battles Report post #11 Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) https://eu.wargaming.net/shop/wows/specials/1560/ Problem solved. Hehe thanks, but no thanks. I already paid 70 € for 1 year of premium, and 90 € for 30k dubloons (so I can play around with captain skills and modules a bit more and retrain captains etc.), and 50€ for the Warspite (I bought when there was only the bundle), and 20€ to get into Beta (useless Yubari...). (Which reminds me that I actually used some of that gold to get free xp, so my ships would start out with all upgrades instead of stock - so yes: I didn't "fully" play my Tier VII and VIII german and japanese cruisers to Elite,which would have given me some more silver... - on the other hand: that converted xp actually did come from somewhere I actually played with Elite ships beforehand). Edited April 14, 2016 by 0ldfield Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #12 Posted April 14, 2016 well yes premium account will help with credit very much. on t8+ you either earn very little or are even in negative, and that 50% credit will make games much more profitable. with premium ship(30% more credit) along with premium account you can get lots of credit. btw try playing kamikaze for cash cow. i usually get average between 150-250k credits per game in it without premium. with premium you could easily earn 250-400k per game.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] black_falcon120 Beta Tester 1,693 posts 4,658 battles Report post #13 Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) Boy, I thought I was rolling in it with 9 million. But on a serious note, play tier 5/6 to earn silver. Edited April 14, 2016 by black_falcon120 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0ldfield Beta Tester 14 posts 9,815 battles Report post #14 Posted April 14, 2016 Boy, I thought I was rolling in it with 9 million. But on a serious note, play tier 5/6 to earn silver. I'll play Warspite again after I'm done with that "Captain Extraction"-Mission,which requires Tier VII+. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feign_Death Beta Tester 81 posts Report post #15 Posted April 14, 2016 With premium it was around 50-60 millions I raked in when doing the arp missions with loads of premium consumables . getting that amount ain't that hard. Problem is when buying a fully decked tier 9 for example. It cost around 30 millions and with these prices I too struggle with buying all the ships I want. On wot I keep them all. Can't do it in this game though. Have to sell ship's to afford the grind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cpt_Kawa Players 26 posts Report post #16 Posted April 14, 2016 Well same goes for me. I have some measly 6.5 Mio credits and could buy Ranger and Baltimore and soon Iowa....:/ and I do suck at playing internet ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] triumphgt6 Players 1,870 posts 22,641 battles Report post #17 Posted April 14, 2016 Have 63 Million - saving up for RN! Probably be 63 Billion by then! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cpt_Kawa Players 26 posts Report post #18 Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) Have 63 Million - saving up for RN! Probably be 63 Billion by then! I trade 3 Kongos for 20 Mio. ^^ All in shiny colors. Edited April 14, 2016 by Cpt_Kawa 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0ldfield Beta Tester 14 posts 9,815 battles Report post #19 Posted April 14, 2016 With premium it was around 50-60 millions I raked in when doing the arp missions with loads of premium consumables . getting that amount ain't that hard. Problem is when buying a fully decked tier 9 for example. It cost around 30 millions and with these prices I too struggle with buying all the ships I want. On wot I keep them all. Can't do it in this game though. Have to sell ship's to afford the grind. Just for clarification: I sell my old ships. I once kept Minekaze for making money, but then they lowered torp range from 10 to 7km (- and I bought Warspite, which is my preferred Tier V / VI ship now). Well I guess it just shows, that you are a better player than me consistently, which I'm ok with, but doesn't really grant my wish. (And @ triumpghgt6: Yes, I'm also waiting for additional RN BBs to put my captain to a different use.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNAF] HMS_Worcester Beta Tester 1,609 posts Report post #20 Posted April 14, 2016 I've just been looking at my credits situation and realised I can sell my Mikhail Kutuzov and all it's equipment for 9.6 million credits.....which I am tempted to do as I just don't like the ship. It is the one premium I regret buying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PANEU] kfa Beta Tester 1,975 posts 13,875 battles Report post #21 Posted April 14, 2016 1) With Atago, you can have good games 450-500k credits and excellent games 7-800k credits. I even had 920k once, but my point is, the Tier8 premiums print a lot more money. 2) Buy a murmansk and play with the Warspite together. Its really cheap and one of the strongest premiums. 3) Or you know just have fun and play your favourite Minekaze/Nürnberg for a week or so... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0ldfield Beta Tester 14 posts 9,815 battles Report post #22 Posted April 14, 2016 I've just been looking at my credits situation and realised I can sell my Mikhail Kutuzov and all it's equipment for 9.6 million credits.....which I am tempted to do as I just don't like the ship. It is the one premium I regret buying. I wouldn*t do that: 9 million silver is 6000 dubloons which is about 22 € (or more - depending how you buy the dubloons) - which is probably a lot less than you bought it for... - and while I don't have it, I think it's probably a good ships, because it's annoying to play against (- as long as you are not in a BB shooting at it's broadside with AP). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] triumphgt6 Players 1,870 posts 22,641 battles Report post #23 Posted April 14, 2016 Just for clarification: I sell my old ships. I once kept Minekaze for making money, but then they lowered torp range from 10 to 7km (- and I bought Warspite, which is my preferred Tier V / VI ship now). Well I guess it just shows, that you are a better player than me consistently, which I'm ok with, but doesn't really grant my wish. (And @ triumpghgt6: Yes, I'm also waiting for additional RN BBs to put my captain to a different use.) I have trained another RN captain in the Warspite and have been practising with the Wickes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNAF] HMS_Worcester Beta Tester 1,609 posts Report post #24 Posted April 14, 2016 I wouldn*t do that: 9 million silver is 6000 dubloons which is about 22 € (or more - depending how you buy the dubloons) - which is probably a lot less than you bought it for... - and while I don't have it, I think it's probably a good ships, because it's annoying to play against (- as long as you are not in a BB shooting at it's broadside with AP). I know I would be losing money, but I REALLY don't like using it.....so right now it just sits there and I feel like I've lost money anyway. I'm not going to rush and do it, but the option is always there if I ever get desperate for credits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0ldfield Beta Tester 14 posts 9,815 battles Report post #25 Posted April 14, 2016 1) With Atago, you can have good games 450-500k credits and excellent games 7-800k credits. I even had 920k once, but my point is, the Tier8 premiums print a lot more money. 2) Buy a murmansk and play with the Warspite together. Its really cheap and one of the strongest premiums. 3) Or you know just have fun and play your favourite Minekaze/Nürnberg for a week or so... Sounds like about double the amount I get in the Warspite (most games I think 150k-350k depending on how well I'm doing). Guess I should have bought the Atago or the Tirpitz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites