What do you think of the Kirov

[row72]

After i had the svietlana i was hoping the Kirov would be a better ship. I really liked the svietlana with its high firerate and fast manouvres, but the Kirov is really the opposite of this turns like a BB and has slow firerate. The good thing on the Kirov though is the distance your guns reach and i think with this ship it is better to stay out of range for other cruisers while you are in range, when you come in range with a high fire rate cruiser or even dd you are probably going to die unless teammates are helping you out. In the svietlana i could easily defeat other ships alone. Other thing on the Kirov i can easily hit citadels with it the other day i sunked a konigsberg with 75 percent health in one salvo including 2 citadel hits that was nice. But what do you think of this ship and do you have any tips maybe how to play it and the most important survive a battle in it.

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

Nice ship , good guns , lack of armor play smart

[Tyrendian89]

Nice ship , good guns , lack of armor play smart

 

that. not much to add.

[lankylad11_lankylad]

glorious guns, stupidly fragile all in all a very frustrating ship to drive

[robihr]

i think there was thread about kirov recently...

[Spellfire40]

Big unagile Floating Citadel that makes a Nürnberg Looks like a Yamato in comparison armor wise. Good guns thogh.

[Ferry_25]

I kind of like the ship. Good guns and acceptable AA. Indeed: keep moving and don't go solo in the frontline. I have been one shot last week for the first time in months in the Kirov. Was focussing on a DD and didn't check the MM enough so I missed the BB to which I was laying full broadside. He also got a dev strike... (-;

[Cosseria]

Poor handling and glass armor, you'd better get your lifeboats ready as anything but DDs can smash you in seconds. Anyway this is the soundtrack for the whole line it seems, a major blunder IMO. You can't carry a game in them, if you have smart BBs to support you may win, otherwise you're condemned to defeat and/or a quick sinking. Totally unenjoyable so far.

[ColonelPete]

Its a good ship. But I will probably not keep her as I like the Koenigsberg better.

[GioIonutz]

Love it, if you know how to play with it, you can do a lot of dmg... just like in my last battle last night

 

[ShuggieHamster]

sounds like a bigger version of the issue I had with the gnevny. had a nightmare with this T5 Ru DD until I learned its not really a destroyer (well not a US or IJN destroyer) ... its a very small and frail CL that needs to sit back, support other ships and chill till the later stages when it can go surprise enemy ships roughly from behind.

Am due to move up to the Kirov fairly soon so will be engaging kite and snipe mode and see what happens.

[havaduck]

I like Kilrah so far. Guns can damage anything. Doesnt need anti detonation flags ( -_- ) although my damage in it is still below other T 5 cruiser (except FU-Taka - I played and hated it pre-buff and now am to traumatised to allow that thing back in my port)

 

On the other side not to surprising considering this was before the continuous nerf to cruiser so I guess It would be well in line with them .... or even better.

 

 

shitty useless AA in combination with no torpedo defence (takes as close to the full damage rating of the torp as possible -_- ) and no ability to oh-crap-manoeuvres against air borne- or DD-Torps are my biggest gripe.

 

.... that and that a BB can citadel you with HE which is simply unacceptable for a cruiser.

 

 

.... In total: yeah a little bit situational ship that goes from near-Kraken to died-early in a blink. Those fluctuation-games are the rule not the exception.

[Gefreiter_Fritz]

It is Ok.

[Kruzenstern]

 

 

shitty useless AA in combination with no torpedo defence (takes as close to the full damage rating of the torp as possible -_- ) and no ability to oh-crap-manoeuvres against air borne- or DD-Torps are my biggest gripe.

 

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The AA on the Kirov with the second Hull is amazing for a tier5. Especially if you put the 4th commander skill in the AA thingy. I got me Clear Skies the other day with 34 plane kills. By far the best AA any tier5 ship has.

[havaduck]

 

The AA on the Kirov with the second Hull is amazing for a tier5. Especially if you put the 4th commander skill in the AA thingy. I got me Clear Skies the other day with 34 plane kills. By far the best AA any tier5 ship has.

 

 

great for you. (no sarcasm)

 

 

So far I was only able to really reap random floatplanes or carrier aircraft after the parrent carrier was sunk and their planes roaming aimlessly in circles.

 

In attack situations this shitty AA is completely inadequate even against the CVs one tier below you, and that the thing with "best AA on T 5" (which I agree upron) -> Its the same kind of remark like "Kami R has better AA than Arkansas Beta" (wich is also true). 

 

 

 

[Gojuadorai]

awesome ship keept it.

hard to play cause you have to do unusual things, i  can see why most people dont get it.

[Aldramelech]

I'm playing her atm and I think I've figured her out finally. Be a coward seems the best advice, skulk around the back and try and provide AA support or make sure there is a more inviting target between you and the enemy. Trying to fight equal tier cruisers one on one seems to be the best way to get killed and hunting DD's seems an even better way.

 

Can't wait to see the back of it frankly.

[ColonelPete]

 

 

great for you. (no sarcasm)

 

 

So far I was only able to really reap random floatplanes or carrier aircraft after the parrent carrier was sunk and their planes roaming aimlessly in circles.

 

In attack situations this shitty AA is completely inadequate even against the CVs one tier below you, and that the thing with "best AA on T 5" (which I agree upron) -> Its the same kind of remark like "Kami R has better AA than Arkansas Beta" (wich is also true). 

 

 

 

 

But the AA IS really good.

[_Orbital_Supra_]

a bit fragile but a nice ship with powerful guns.

can even citadel a BB.

[Babykim]

Nice ship , good guns , lack of armor DONT play smart

 

[row72]

So what i was already thinking is stay in the back with it and when you hit do it hard. I will see if that works or maybe have to move to german cruiser line now because i am not ready yet for tier 6 us line i think.

[Admiral_noodle]

So what i was already thinking is stay in the back with it and when you hit do it hard. I will see if that works or maybe have to move to german cruiser line now because i am not ready yet for tier 6 us line i think.

 

Grinding all the lines does make you a better player. 

 

For the record I love the Kirov guns and hate the ship. I've seen people (friends) get great results one game followed by appalling ones with no real reason due to being citadelled. 

 

Against them I've hit Kirovs for 5k damage with AP, heavily angled... In a Murmansk. 

 

If a Kirov is in range I load AP and farm damage. It almost feels wrong. 

[Talladega_Night]

i one shot a Kirov with full hp in my Wyoming tonight. its was amazing

[Procrastes]

Question: How would the Kirov compare to the Murmansk?

[Gojuadorai]

Question: How would the Kirov compare to the Murmansk?

 

its the complete oposite

 

while the murmansk survives cause its nimble, the kirov survives by not getting shot at, or beeing angled so heavily it is just hard to hit.

 

overall i think a decent player can do better in the murmansk cause it has a more active role, and thereby can influence the game more.

but the kirov can just "win" games cause you can dish out a lot of dmg over the time of the game, althoug youre unlikey to cap something in the kirov.

 

for now ive keept he kirov (63% winrate @52 games) despite  owning a murmansk (64% winrate @133 games)

but i might sell it if i see that i dont play it sometimes.