SBS Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 2,556 posts 1,924 battles Report post #1 Posted April 6, 2016 Okay, I just saw this on the NA forum and it seems there is going to be no restriction to buy the Saipan, at least on NA. http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/74789-where-is-the-saipan-update/page__pid__1833200#entry1833200 I jsut hope it is an april fools joke and not true, what do you think? True or not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilJumpa Beta Tester 4,603 posts 7,488 battles Report post #2 Posted April 6, 2016 Well, the planned restriction of 20 wins and have a T5 CV was not really that big of a hurdle. It would have ensured, that the player has at least seen the different UI for carriers but not much more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Devantejah Alpha Tester 1,049 posts 2,356 battles Report post #3 Posted April 6, 2016 I'm guessing that we will soon see a post with some staff apologizing for jumping the gun and that the Saipan will indeed be sold with requirements after all. Wouldn't be the first time. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon93 Sailing Hamster 3,124 posts 1,275 battles Report post #4 Posted April 6, 2016 I think it's better with the requirements, at least there's the hope whomever buys them isn't a clueless player. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Devantejah Alpha Tester 1,049 posts 2,356 battles Report post #5 Posted April 6, 2016 I think it's better with the requirements, at least there's the hope whomever buys them isn't a clueless player. Well if the Saipan gets sold without the requirements (which could be higher in my mind) I think the main buyers will be good CV players and a lot of the crowd that screams "CV OP!!!111" because they got sunk by one while tunnelvisioneering or something in that fashion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] Fafniroth Beta Tester 47 posts 12,962 battles Report post #6 Posted April 6, 2016 Okay, I just saw this on the NA forum and it seems there is going to be no restriction to buy the Saipan, at least on NA. http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/74789-where-is-the-saipan-update/page__pid__1833200#entry1833200 I jsut hope it is an april fools joke and not true, what do you think? True or not? Yes, it's an official statement. There will be no requirements for Saipan. Requirements where only being discussed as a rumor on the RU server, and in a leak at that (which means it's a work in progress, which means it's subject to change at any time). The RU server, by the way, has always been the most vocal about CV restrictions, and that's why the actual unrestricted first release is happening on NA. EU might get restrictions if the NA release proves to be problematic. Or not. We might not get Saipan at all, since EU has shown disinterest on premium CVs and Saipan is just there to test the impact of those on the game (since it was already modeled and could be deployed fast). If Saipan turns out to be Nikolai-level OP, it will likely be buried and forgotten and a better attempt will be made until they get it right in time for historically important ones like Akagi and Enterprise. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery_Kathy Beta Tester 1,022 posts 3,947 battles Report post #7 Posted April 6, 2016 Would be a bit weird, since there is no requirement to buy the Tirpitz which is a tier VIII. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #8 Posted April 6, 2016 well there is no requirement for brain on t10, so why should there be any requirement for any other ship 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister_Greek Supertester 1,046 posts 4,551 battles Report post #9 Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) Hmmm,if this is true,its an excellent time to take a long break from this game... The last thing i want is scores of low IQ people buying a prem CV.... My experiences are really bad from the "Tirpitz Plague"..... Edited April 6, 2016 by Mister_Greek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #10 Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) Hmmm,if this is true,its an excellent time to take a long break from this game... The last thing i want is scores of low IQ people buying a prem CV.... My experiences are really bad from the "Tirpitz Plague"..... I think there was 2 big issues when Tirpitz was released. One game was new and there was new players playing a ship tiers above there experience. Two on the first weekend there were Lots of tier 8 BB (Tirpitz) starting with at most a 3 skill commander as players had had no opertunity to train a commander on lower tier ships as she was the first German ship in game fighting against ships that probably have 10-14 skill points I would think the bulk of players buying the Saipan will have played CV's before and have experienced Commanders . Edited April 6, 2016 by T0byJug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Kenjiro_ [THESO] Players 991 posts 12,433 battles Report post #11 Posted April 6, 2016 Hmmm,if this is true,its an excellent time to take a long break from this game... The last thing i want is scores of low IQ people buying a prem CV.... My experiences are really bad from the "Tirpitz Plague"..... Brace for impact. Soon "everything will eventually even out" people will come and say their line: "Yes but half the time those low IQ people will be on enemy team. Everything will eventually even out" It seems you can't complain about anything in here because "eventually everything will even out" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BSB] Sake78 Players 546 posts Report post #12 Posted April 6, 2016 Like anyone had any shadow of a doubt that when money is involved, the old idea of gameplay can crash and burn. Welcome to Free To Play games and the Race For The Almighty Dolla. By all means, keep preaching about free stuff and how ships even out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FIFO] ilhilh [FIFO] Beta Tester 2,451 posts 7,514 battles Report post #13 Posted April 6, 2016 Will have to see how it goes. I was never going to fall foul of any requirements and was always planning on buying it. The only thing that might have delayed it would have been its presentation through personal offers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Ictogan Players 1,841 posts 7,432 battles Report post #14 Posted April 6, 2016 Will have to see how it goes. I was never going to fall foul of any requirements and was always planning on buying it. The only thing that might have delayed it would have been its presentation through personal offers. IIRC it was being delayed due to some rebalancing. The change from the 320 setup to either 220 or 201(with the db squadron having 8 planes). I guess they just want to get enough data to make sure that it's balanced before they sell it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ishiro32 Alpha Tester 2,303 posts 1,149 battles Report post #15 Posted April 6, 2016 Guys, really? You think that, because of lack of those "requirments" Saipan will be a plague?Those rumored requirments were 20 wins in CVs and tier V carrier (which you will get by winning 20 times anyway). It was laughable and wouldn't do jack to stop Saipan from poisoning the game on it's release. First two weeks will be rough as it always is when big premium ship hits the server, but it always calms down with time.I honestly don't care wheter there is this laughable requirment or not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BSB] Sake78 Players 546 posts Report post #16 Posted April 6, 2016 Guys, really? You think that, because of lack of those "requirments" Saipan will be a plague? Those rumored requirments were 20 wins in CVs and tier V carrier (which you will get by winning 20 times anyway). It was laughable and wouldn't do jack to stop Saipan from poisoning the game on it's release. First two weeks will be rough as it always is when big premium ship hits the server, but it always calms down with time. I honestly don't care wheter there is this laughable requirment or not. At least the old requirements asked a player to have played even that small amount of games, versus this new "pick up and play and ruin your team" no requirement. I sincerely hope I am wrong, but the least we needed right now was a premium carrier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #17 Posted April 6, 2016 i have already seen ppl buy atagos with 30-40 battles.... guess how that worked out for them.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ishiro32 Alpha Tester 2,303 posts 1,149 battles Report post #18 Posted April 6, 2016 At least the old requirements asked a player to have played even that small amount of games, versus this new "pick up and play and ruin your team" no requirement. I sincerely hope I am wrong, but the least we needed right now was a premium carrier. And how many people with 0 CV games will do this? Carriers are scary, have different gameplay and stuff like that. Oh I am sure there will be some 0 games CVs, but it will not be enough for you to really feel it. Players who will generate majority of the issues will pass that rumored requirment. Tier V CVs is still tutorial one and for exmple for it took me about 200 games to start thinking "Well, at least I don't suck horribly, now I need to git good". From my perspective proposed requirment was as good as none, but having anything higher would be not beneficial to WG, too few potential buyers. Will see how US server handles Saipan, but I really don't think it will be as bad as tirpitz. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #19 Posted April 6, 2016 It will also depend on the price of the Saipan. There will be folks like me who'll get her even if the ship costs 50-60€ unbundled. But a lot of players wont shell out that amount of money for a class they rarely if ever play. And since the Saipan is the first CV and at Tier VII, it may be very well above 40€ unbundled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FTR] Krizmuz Players 780 posts 24,247 battles Report post #20 Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) Why would there a restriction? That never happened and will never happen Edited April 6, 2016 by Wootanklan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BSB] Sake78 Players 546 posts Report post #21 Posted April 6, 2016 And how many people with 0 CV games will do this? Carriers are scary, have different gameplay and stuff like that. Oh I am sure there will be some 0 games CVs, but it will not be enough for you to really feel it. Players who will generate majority of the issues will pass that rumored requirment. Tier V CVs is still tutorial one and for exmple for it took me about 200 games to start thinking "Well, at least I don't suck horribly, now I need to git good". From my perspective proposed requirment was as good as none, but having anything higher would be not beneficial to WG, too few potential buyers. Will see how US server handles Saipan, but I really don't think it will be as bad as tirpitz. I surely hope you`re right and forced mirror won`t bring more "CV badness" than it already is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 2,556 posts 1,924 battles Report post #22 Posted April 6, 2016 The way that I saw it, the requirement at least meant that people would have played matches in CV and at least learned or become somewhat familiar with how to use manual drops, strafing and so on. Other than that, the 20 battle requirement doesn't really prevent anything. Besides, what people really need to watch out for are the tier X CV captains coming in Saipans wrecking all the new CV players who buy it. Better hope you get the good player on your team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] Spellfire40 Beta Tester 5,330 posts 13,776 battles Report post #23 Posted April 6, 2016 The way that I saw it, the requirement at least meant that people would have played matches in CV and at least learned or become somewhat familiar with how to use manual drops, strafing and so on. Other than that, the 20 battle requirement doesn't really prevent anything. Besides, what people really need to watch out for are the tier X CV captains coming in Saipans wrecking all the new CV players who buy it. Better hope you get the good player on your team The requirement was more a protection for the buyer not the larger comunity so they dont feel cheated when they find out that playing CV is not just making 4 clicks then go afk and get a cup of coffe. There are enogh bad normal CV players out there or some who give up when they find out thir beloved stike ranger has a fighter Hiryu as oponent instead of a nuke or be nuked ranger vs ranger match with a butload of damage done when you come out on top. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EW_YK] Barkyro Players 439 posts 13,829 battles Report post #24 Posted April 8, 2016 Hy guys. Saipan videos have started appearing. e.g. I thought it had 2/3/0 set up not 2/2/0 WTF? Any other opinions? all the best , Barky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #25 Posted April 8, 2016 Hy guys. Saipan videos have started appearing. e.g. I thought it had 2/3/0 set up not 2/2/0 WTF? Any other opinions? all the best , Barky i will just say... wtf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites