HMS Campbeltown

[HMS_Worcester]

 

EsaTuunen (think I just butchered his name - sorry!) is really the guy to speak to about it - he sent me a load of advice a while back.  I was also struggling massively with it to the point I hadn't taken it out for months but I had specced it as a torp destroyer when it is actually a gunboat so I swapped the modules and retrained the captain and I've never looked back.  Expert marksman for the lvl 2 skill is essential because the turret rotation is horribly slow and gets something like a 50% boost from it.

 

It has decent concealment meaning you can pick anc choose engagements and can invisi fire from about 11km away and that is without the level 5 concealment expert skill which means you can sit and annoy slow BBs and even CAs that can't even see you.  This is quite easy because it has nice firing arcs (much better than the USN DDs).

 

Mainly it is a case of using HE - you use it against DDs, BBs, CVs, angled CAs and most things above about 12km, I say angled because if a CA is 10km or less away from you then you can really punish it with AP because you are accurate and have a fearsome RoF - Just last night I killed a Phoenix in 3 salvoes (so about 12-15 seconds from when I opened fire) because it is citadel after citadel.

 

Whilst you need to be a little wary of some of the other gunboat DDs (nicholas, farragut etc) it is perfectly capable of taking on any DD it meets really.

 

And the torps - it might be a gunboat but it has great torps for its tier with decent range - you can easily stealth fire them and you can wreck lumbering BBs with them but it is situational.  I use them defensively against DDs and then I decide whether I will shoot at a BB or close in and torp... and then shoot.

 

So that is what it can do, but how best to do it?  Well, I still haven't perfected it - too often I get caught out fighting a DD I shouldn't as once you learn what it can do then you sometimes find it gives you too much confidence.  Often it depends on the map and team compositions.  If they have lots of IJN DDs then I will head to their likely locations so that I can bully them and then take it from there.  As I say ambushing cruisers at sub 10km range is a favourite pastime of mine as they think they are hunting you when they really are not.  But if there is too much 'heat' then you can just retreat and annoy them with accurate 10-13km fire.

 

 

I don't want to derail this thread further but I have added my full captain skills on there to explain what I've done - AFT for example gives +20% range which is very useful since it can use the range - USN DDs have such crap high shell arcs it is hard to be effective at those ranges).

Brilliant, thanks for the info. Judging by what you have said I am definitely playing her wrong. I will try out you suggestions next time I play.

[ilhilh]

I don't want to derail this thread further but I have added my full captain skills on there to explain what I've done - AFT for example gives +20% range which is very useful since it can use the range - USN DDs have such crap high shell arcs it is hard to be effective at those ranges).

[T0byJug]

 

Agreed with the first, but not the second.

There were many important naval battles in the European theater of war, from the Battle of the Atlantic and the sinking of the Bismarck to the Battle of the North Cape. One battle, the Battle of the Barents Sea, almost proved the end of the line for the entire German surface fleet! So why not celebrate that? Far more ironic is that we are celebrating this while hardly any European ships are in the game, but that is just the result of the release schedule.

 

He was agreeing with a comment i stated! Please dont get me wrong the War at Sea was very significant in t Europe Theater: But the war at sea was pretty much over Just after June 6 1944. In fact RN was already Proposing to send a large portion of its ships to the Pacific quite early in 1944 as they new that after D-Day and the capitulation of the Italians in 1943 there was not rely a need for Larger Surface navy units. Lets celabrate the actions you mention on the centenary of the day the happened/ended. The next significant Naval Action in Europe that will be celebrated in game i guess will be 100years since Jutland on May 31st

[T0byJug]

 

EsaTuunen (think I just butchered his name - sorry!)  Wall of text

 

EsaTuunanen knows nothing about this ship..

 

 

Sorry but a 74% win rate in her and an average damage of 60K at tier 5 is quit frankly Pathetic!!!!!   

 

God he has only played 2886 games in her!!

 

 Basicly what EsaTuunanen douse not know about this ship is not worth knowing!!!! he is also a rely good chap to talk to. Just not division with!! Well unless you want to play tier 5 that is

 

@ HMS_Dauntless you should come and join us on in game Chat channel Forumites (password play4fun) and or Teamspeak voice over IP

 

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Teamspeak World of warships server

 

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You will find many of the regular Forum people there

 

[TheCinC]

 

Oh no I did not mean we should not celebrate the great naval victories/campaigns of the European theatre, I just agreed that VE Day itself was a long time after the great naval battles. I think it is more appropriate to celebrate them on their individual dates.

 

Since VE day and related holidays are major events in all European countries that I know, it would seem weird to me NOT to do anything.

Think of it more as an extra chance to celebrate, which I think is exactly what it is, an excuse to have an event, not the other way around.

I'm pretty sure they will celebrate the individual things in some way, shape or form, although I am not sure at what date they would celebrate the Battle of the Atlantic and even then, it was mostly fought by u-boats, escort ships and aircraft.

[HMS_Worcester]

 

EsaTuunanen knows nothing about this ship..

 

 

Sorry but a 74% win rate in her and an average damage of 60K at tier 5 is quit frankly Pathetic!!!!!   

 

God he has only played 2886 games in her!!

 

 Basicly what EsaTuunanen douse not know about this ship is not worth knowing!!!! he is also a rely good chap to talk to. Just not division with!! Well unless you want to play tier 5 that is

 

@ HMS_Dauntless you should come and join us on in game Chat channel Forumites (password play4fun) and or Teamspeak voice over IP

 

https://www.teamspeak.com/downloads for software

 

Teamspeak World of warships server

 

tss.my-eth0.de:9988

 

You will find many of the regular Forum people there

 

 

I will try to do that more often.

 

 

Since VE day and related holidays are major events in all European countries that I know, it would seem weird to me NOT to do anything.

Think of it more as an extra chance to celebrate, which I think is exactly what it is, an excuse to have an event, not the other way around.

I'm pretty sure they will celebrate the individual things in some way, shape or form, although I am not sure at what date they would celebrate the Battle of the Atlantic and even then, it was mostly fought by u-boats, escort ships and aircraft.

 

Discounts on DDs maybe? Or they could put "ahem" Campbeltown "ahem" on sale as she was a convoy escort ship.

 

[Vistulus]

I have heard quite mixed reviews of her, some bad, some quite positive. When I divisioned with Ectar and Deserte the other night, they said she was quite a fun, capable little ship. So I really don't think she is as bad as a number of people are making out.

 

Which is really the point of this thread....

 

There are a whole bunch of people in the EU who would like to BUY this "fun, capable little ship" and we are STILL trying to understand why here in the EU we are not being allowed to.....

 

Just seen the weekly premium shop offer has been posted..... No Campbelltown...... seriously WG what is your issue with the EU or is just an issue with the UK?

[Vistulus]

Another morning and another FU to those of us in the EU/UK who would like to be able to buy HMS Campbelltown.

 

Seems it was more important to rush out a reskinned New York class US BB.

 

So again repeating my previous question:

 

"This is getting ridiculous, with the greatest of respect can someone from WG PLEASE tell us why you are unwilling to sell us HMS Campbelltown? "

[BlueMoon51]

I think its quite clear at this point that it will be part of this months event (in some form) and then be offered for sale after its over

[Vistulus]

I think its quite clear at this point that it will be part of this months event (in some form) and then be offered for sale after its over

 

​I've not seen any information to suggest that's the case, can you share?

 

If you are suggesting it is the "surprise" for collecting 12M diamonds I'm not sure that will be very well received by the community?

 

March 28th (2016) was the original date WG implied HMS Campbelltown would be released, we are told it was delayed due to balancing issue, then it was "released" in the patch on the 22nd of April.... and put on sale in Asia..... Since then silence......

 

Sorry but I would like WG to tell us why they have decided that we cant buy this ship in the EU (where they is a significant demand) whilst they are quite happy to sell it in other regions.

 

 

 

[Solo_Wing_Potato]

Regarding the role of the Campbeltown and its effectiveness as a DD, Notser has an excellent video on her which showcases what the ship can be capable of with the right playstyle.

 

Well worth a watch if you haven't already seen it.

[BlueMoon51]

 

​I've not seen any information to suggest that's the case, can you share?

 

If you are suggesting it is the "surprise" for collecting 12M diamonds I'm not sure that will be very well received by the community?

 

March 28th (2016) was the original date WG implied HMS Campbelltown would be released, we are told it was delayed due to balancing issue, then it was "released" in the patch on the 22nd of April.... and put on sale in Asia..... Since then silence......

 

Sorry but I would like WG to tell us why they have decided that we cant buy this ship in the EU (where they is a significant demand) whilst they are quite happy to sell it in other regions.

 

 

 

 

Sorry I should have said the fact that as you point out it has been available on the other servers for some time and we have even......... had a week without any special in the shop(in terms of ships) would indicate to me that there is a reason it's not here. I don't disagree I think at the heart of this is the fact that WG don't communicate very well

[Vistulus]

 

Sorry I should have said the fact that as you point out it has been available on the other servers for some time and we have even......... had a week without any special in the shop(in terms of ships) would indicate to me that there is a reason it's not here. I don't disagree I think at the heart of this is the fact that WG don't communicate very well

 

​I think you hit the nail on the head it's a communication issue, which can only be addressed by WG.

[Todger_Fairmile]

I find it inexplicable that Campbeltown has not been offered on either the EU or NA servers. Since it was an American ship traded to the Royal Navy, you would expext that it would sell fairly well. Not to mention that it is only the second British ship in the game.

[Crooq_Lionfang]

I still hope it'll be the secret reward at the end of the GNB event

[piet11111]

I still hope it'll be the secret reward at the end of the GNB event

 

If the project R template is anything to go by then i would suspect a tier 5 ship like the kamikaze as the end reward.

As such i think a ship like the profintern (aka krasny krim) is more likely (and probably a better ship overall)

 

I suspect that for most players the enthusiasm for the Campbeltown has bled out already and because of it wargaming will get a lot of negative commentary should they choose to use it as the prize because if you take away the royal navy flag and its history what is left will be a underwhelming tier 3 ship.

[T0byJug]

 

If the project R template is anything to go by then i would suspect a tier 5 ship like the kamikaze as the end reward.

As such i think a ship like the profintern (aka krasny krim) is more likely (and probably a better ship overall)

 

I suspect that for most players the enthusiasm for the Campbeltown has bled out already and because of it wargaming will get a lot of negative commentary should they choose to use it as the prize because if you take away the royal navy flag and its history what is left will be a underwhelming tier 3 ship.

 

Give a tier 5 ship to every one that took part. that I very much doubt. Remember Kamikaze was only rewarded in a Lottery and to people that achieved a High volume of Pearls. Also many more people got that max Pearls than wargaming expected. I dont think they will make that mistake again.

 

If Xmas and Easter Free tanks?ships are any thing to go buy tier 3 is the best we can expect

[piet11111]

 

Give a tier 5 ship to every one that took part. that I very much doubt. Remember Kamikaze was only rewarded in a Lottery and buy people that achieve a High volume of Pearls. Also many more people got that max Pearls than wargaming expected. I dont think they will make that mistake again.

 

If Xmas and Easter Free tanks?ships are any thing to go buy tier 3 is the best we can expect

 

Hmm good point i actually had not considered that they might change the requirements.

I simply assumed that it would be another get X amount of diamonds and get the ship kind of deal again.

[T0byJug]

 

Hmm good point i actually had not considered that they might change the requirements.

I simply assumed that it would be another get X amount of diamonds and get the ship kind of deal again.

 

Just Imagen what would happen if they announced right at the end this surprise for reaching the goal was a free ship for people that took part in the event but only if they achieved a certain amount of Diamonds. The community would be in Uproar as  all the people that did not reach the set number of diamonds would complain (Quite rightly) that they should have been informed they must reach the goal in order to get the surprise at the end even if they were not told what the surprise was.

[piet11111]

 

Just Imagen what would happen if they announced right at the end this surprise for reaching the goal was a free ship for people that took part in the event but only if they achieved a certain amount of Diamonds. The community would be in Uproar as  all the people that did not reach the set number of diamonds would complain (Quite rightly) that they should have been informed they must reach the goal in order to get the surprise at the end even if they were not told what the surprise was.

 

True but it would not be outside my line of expectations actually :-/

[Sonic_157]

 

Hey guys.

I have few thoughts regarding the last milestone and the secret reward.

 

Let's take a closer look at the milestones.

Firstly, there are 12 in total. These 12 can be divided in 4 groups according to what reward they give.

 

There two groups that give XP benefits for the first weekend after GNB and two groups that initiate and deal with two extra missions for that specific weekend.

 

The 1st mission is to destroy 15 ships with a tier IV+ ship. The 2nd is to deal 1.000.000 points of damage to enemy ships with a tier IV+ ship.

 

 

Lets look a little deeper.

The 1st group (milestones #1,# 5, #7 and #10) adds an increasing percentage of XP for every battle played during the first weekend after GNB.

 

The 2nd group (milestones #2 and #4) adds an increasing percentage of XP for the first victory during the first weekend after GNB.

 

The 3rd group (milestones #3, #8 and #11) adds upgrades to the 1st extra mission.

The 4th group (milestones #6 and #9) adds upgrades to the 2nd extra mission.

 

 

Now, looking at this pattern, it is logical to assume that the last milestone (#12) is also tied to the second extra mission and that it too will add a bonus to the mission.

Having in mind that this last bonus is kept as a secret (meaning it is something bigger than an amount of credits), it is not too far fetched to think that the final reward (if you complete the 2nd mission during that weekend) could indeed be a low-tier premium ship in parallel with the Kamikaze R event.

 

 

 

 

 

p.s. I will also post this to the GNB thread to see what others think.

 

 

 

[HMS_LIVERPOOL]

I know the reviews for this ship is not that good. But hey I still want her.... 

HMS Campbeltown

 

[HMS_Worcester]

I know the reviews for this ship is not that good. But hey I still want her.... 

HMS Campbeltown

 

We have to let her go, it will be less painful in the long run....she's gone man

[Solo_Wing_Potato]

 

We have to let her go, it will be less painful in the long run....she's gone man

 

 

I don't know, I'm beginning to agree that she may be the reward for the 'secret' 12th milestone.  Otherwise why let Jingles and Flamu upload their reviews (not to mention those on the NA server).

[piet11111]

 

 

I don't know, I'm beginning to agree that she may be the reward for the 'secret' 12th milestone.  Otherwise why let Jingles and Flamu upload their reviews (not to mention those on the NA server).

 

Because its being sold in RU and Asia so trying to keep their more valuable youtubers muzzled would be a great way to anger them.