WestyII Players 335 posts 3,365 battles Report post #226 Posted April 28, 2016 Not likely, Caroline for Jutland 100 is far more likely. One can dream... So Caroline is expected for July/August Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNAF] HMS_Worcester Beta Tester 1,609 posts Report post #227 Posted April 28, 2016 Hood was a very nice looking ship, and she may have achieved greater things if she had had a slight design flaw.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,524 battles Report post #228 Posted April 28, 2016 Hood was a very nice looking ship, and she may have achieved greater things if she had had a slight design flaw.... Funny thing is she is always described as the pride of the RN and she was indeed used a lot to show the flag! As you say she was a Pretty ship and this is the reason she went on those World tours! They Kept the more usfull ships at home 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Trainspite Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster 1,920 posts 4,621 battles Report post #229 Posted April 28, 2016 One can dream... So Caroline is expected for July/August May/June if WG want to be on time. Maybe they will do a better job with it than Campbeltown, Caroline should not be too hard to balance at tier 3. My Birthday is also at that time, gib present WG! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WestyII Players 335 posts 3,365 battles Report post #230 Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) Never quit understood the fascination with the Hood!!! Just about all she did is blow up very early in a Battle Highlighting the flaws that were well known to the RN in battlecruiser design!! All she achieved was to kill many RN sailors (including my Grans first husband) I think the fascination is less about her prowess at BoDS, but the fact she was the 'Mighty Hood'. She is a stunning looking ship, with a tragic end. her loss was a huge blow to the Admiralty and British pride. I wish we treated the Hood in a similar way to how the Americans treat Arizona. I stand by my July/August prediction Trainspite ;) Edited April 28, 2016 by WestyII Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #231 Posted April 28, 2016 Hood is ******* epic. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr3awsome Alpha Tester 3,769 posts 58 battles Report post #232 Posted April 28, 2016 Never quit understood the fascination with the Hood!!! Just about all she did is blow up very early in a Battle Highlighting the flaws that were well known to the RN in battlecruiser design!! All she achieved was to kill many RN sailors (including my Grans first husband) Hood did a lot of peacetime service, and was known across the globe for it. Hood didn't actually sink because of any innate battle-cruiser flaw, she sank because of poor deck armour, an issue that was known, but nothing was done prior due to the fact that prior to the commissioning of the new battleships of the late 1930s, she was one of the most powerful warships afloat. Funny thing is she is always described as the pride of the RN and she was indeed used a lot to show the flag! As you say she was a Pretty ship and this is the reason she went on those World tours! They Kept the more usfull ships at home On the contrary, Hood was probably the most useful ship in the RN prior to the KGVs (Capital ships, anyway). They could do this because there was peace, and little sign of any sudden escalation. May/June if WG want to be on time. Maybe they will do a better job with it than Campbeltown, Caroline should not be too hard to balance at tier 3. My Birthday is also at that time, gib present WG! We'll be lucky to get Campbeltown for our birthdays Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DUDS] Crooq_Lionfang Beta Tester 1,999 posts 6,434 battles Report post #233 Posted April 28, 2016 We'll be lucky to get Campbeltown for our birthdays At some point in the last days I also thought I´d get lucky if Campbeltown comes out for my birthday March next year 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CKBK] Pupu_prpr Players 252 posts Report post #234 Posted April 28, 2016 Here's a commentary on the ship. Very underwhelming. It will be in stores in May. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #235 Posted April 28, 2016 Why have no reviewers tried to ram stuff yet? Come on Flamu, ram that Myogi ya big noob! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNAF] HMS_Worcester Beta Tester 1,609 posts Report post #236 Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) Here's a commentary on the ship. Very underwhelming. - Irrelevant, it's the Campbeltown. It will be in stores in May. - Do you know that for sure? Why have no reviewers tried to ram stuff yet? Come on Flamu, ram that Myogi ya big noob! It is quite disappointing no one has, it is the first thing I will do with her! Edited April 28, 2016 by HMS_Dauntless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #237 Posted April 28, 2016 It seems everyone has missed the point of this ship. You get ripped off for buying a piece of crap American destroyer, then you ram the bugger into the largest thing you can find out of spite. No ship represents Britain better 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DUDES] Z_OnkelE WoWs Wiki Team, Privateer 1,795 posts 19,868 battles Report post #238 Posted April 28, 2016 Why have no reviewers tried to ram stuff yet? Come on Flamu, ram that Myogi ya big noob! I think there should be a +X perk to ramming damage with this ship as a particular gimmick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,524 battles Report post #239 Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) T0byJug, on 28 April 2016 - 02:11 PM, said: Never quit understood the fascination with the Hood!!! Just about all she did is blow up very early in a Battle Highlighting the flaws that were well known to the RN in battlecruiser design!! All she achieved was to kill many RN sailors (including my Grans first husband) Hood did a lot of peacetime service, and was known across the globe for it. As i said in a post (marked in bold below) Hood didn't actually sink because of any innate battle-cruiser flaw, she sank because of poor deck armour, an issue that was known, but nothing was done prior due to the fact that prior to the commissioning of the new battleships of the late 1930s, she was one of the most powerful warships afloat. A design Floor. the battlecruiser design was proven floored due to lack of Armour. The class suffured in big ship battles and was not rely suited to chasing Cruisers. It was a design floor T0byJug, on 28 April 2016 - 02:20 PM, said: Funny thing is she is always described as the pride of the RN and she was indeed used a lot to show the flag! As you say she was a Pretty ship and this is the reason she went on those World tours! They Kept the more usfull ships at home On the contrary, Hood was probably the most useful ship in the RN prior to the KGVs (Capital ships, anyway). They could do this because there was peace, and little sign of any sudden escalation. MM more powerfull than the Queen Elizabeth-class Not sure about that. Same main armament. Less secondary Less armour every where except turret front about the only things she had over the Queen Elizabeth-class was looks and speed. More capable than the previous Battlecruisers like the Renown yes. But better the Queen Elizabeth-class sorry that i don't agree. The desighn even in 1918 when commissioned was just not capable of going up against a full BB So in conclusion she was the most Us full Large warship for peacetime but not for wartime.. A Warship!! see my point We'll be lucky to get Campbeltown for our birthdays Edited April 28, 2016 by T0byJug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMoon51 Beta Tester 951 posts Report post #240 Posted April 28, 2016 I don't think it would be correct to say there was a design flaw with regards to Battlecruisers it would be more correct to say that they where used in roles what they where not intended for, which I guess brings up another point, was the original role realistic and while on paper and in peacetime its easy to ring-fence things during a war when the main naval threat you face moves do you send a Battlecruiser and an unfinished Battleship after it or not?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEA] Robber_Baron Players 1,322 posts 7,981 battles Report post #241 Posted April 28, 2016 Wasn't Hood supposed to get additional armour but the world trips prevented this? She surely is beautiful, so design flaws or not, I have to get her if she becomes available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMoon51 Beta Tester 951 posts Report post #242 Posted April 28, 2016 Wasn't Hood supposed to get additional armour but the world trips prevented this? She surely is beautiful, so design flaws or not, I have to get her if she becomes available. That is correct although also I think its worth considering that the British government was strapped for cash/space in docks and was also trying frantically to rearm post-1936 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,524 battles Report post #243 Posted April 28, 2016 Wasn't Hood supposed to get additional armour but the world trips prevented this? She surely is beautiful, so design flaws or not, I have to get her if she becomes available. If she had been refited she would probably been a Verygood warship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Trainspite Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster 1,920 posts 4,621 battles Report post #244 Posted April 28, 2016 Hood did a lot of peacetime service, and was known across the globe for it. Hood didn't actually sink because of any innate battle-cruiser flaw, she sank because of poor deck armour, an issue that was known, but nothing was done prior due to the fact that prior to the commissioning of the new battleships of the late 1930s, she was one of the most powerful warships afloat. I would disagree that Hood was sunk due to her deck armour, the range was really too short for that, hence why Holland had starting turning at that point. MM more powerfull than the Queen Elizabeth-class Not sure about that. Same main armament. Less secondary Less armour every where except turret front about the only things she had over the Queen Elizabeth-class was looks and speed. More capable than the previous Battlecruisers like the Renown yes. But better the Queen Elizabeth-class sorry that i don't agree. The desighn even in 1918 when commissioned was just not capable of going up against a full BB So in conclusion she was the most Us full Large warship for peacetime but not for wartime.. A Warship!! see my point Hood was just as well armoured as QE in practice, Hood only sacrificed size for her attributes, making her the largest Warship afloat, and thus famous, perfect for showing the flag during the wars, where she acquired her reputation. Due for refit in Late 1941, which would have rectified some of the known flaws with the original design, and which made the ship increasingly vulnerable as times progressed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr3awsome Alpha Tester 3,769 posts 58 battles Report post #245 Posted April 28, 2016 Battlecruisers weren't proven flawed due to lack of armour. One can argue that they weren't proved flawed at all. And yes, they could chase cruisers, as Spee's experience showed. And they suffered against big guns, because that is what big guns do. Battleships suffered the same, but were much less involved in the action, as a whole. Same main armament, but greater range. Fewer secondaries, but ones that are drier, and can work in almost all weathers as a result. A belt that protects as well as the QEs. Thicker barbettes. More deck armour. Hood outclasses all but about 9 battleships up for a long time. (That being the Big Seven and the Tennessees) Wasn't Hood supposed to get additional armour but the world trips prevented this? She surely is beautiful, so design flaws or not, I have to get her if she becomes available. She was originally planned to go in in 1938, but Abyssinian Crisis precluded such. Later events meant that the later date of 1941/42 was also untenable. I would disagree that Hood was sunk due to her deck armour, the range was really too short for that, hence why Holland had starting turning at that point. Its just outside the range where it would hit her belt rather than deck. Couple of minutes or so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Trainspite Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster 1,920 posts 4,621 battles Report post #246 Posted April 28, 2016 Its just outside the range where it would hit her belt rather than deck. Couple of minutes or so. That is contrary to what I have read before, although looking at the sources I had before, it could be possible in terms of passing just above the main belt 12", through the 7" section. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RN-R] Vistulus [RN-R] Beta Tester 129 posts 6,682 battles Report post #247 Posted April 29, 2016 Another week has passed and still no sign of HMS Campbelltown on the EU server... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TAITO] Tuuletar Players 325 posts 4,917 battles Report post #248 Posted April 29, 2016 Another week has passed and still no sign of HMS Campbelltown on the EU server... But you can buy the Legendary Manila Galleon. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drunken_Jedi Players 849 posts 2,954 battles Report post #249 Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) I was hoping they would announce it on the EU store in conjunction with the new 5.5 update - alas it appears that is not the case. When Campbeltown rammed into the dock wall at St. Nazaire Beattie said "only four minutes late"... Wargaming are a month late now . Edited April 29, 2016 by Drunken_Jedi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMoon51 Beta Tester 951 posts Report post #250 Posted April 29, 2016 But you can buy the Legendary Manila Galleon. I wish WG would not make such ridiculous claims I have been playing the game over a year and had never heard of the "Manila Galleon" pack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites