[NLD] Genie_of_the_Lamp Players 160 posts 37,001 battles Report post #1 Posted March 27, 2016 Hi I already submitted a ticket; but perhaps this works quicker. I put in the ARP Haruna the new captain with 16 perks from the mission. Maxed out all what can increase the range of the secundairy guns and started playing. However my range is 5.8 on these guns. It didnt go off at all. guns just kept silent even at a range of 2 km from enemy vessels. Is there a way to make it work....or is there a button to press.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EXCEL] Ginger_General Players 46 posts 7,297 battles Report post #2 Posted March 27, 2016 You have to focus fire. That's what the skill says. Have a quick read of it again. It's a balance issue so you don't fire on multiple targets with that accuracy. Next time someone is in range hold control and click their ship to target them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Ictogan Players 1,841 posts 7,432 battles Report post #3 Posted March 27, 2016 Do you have the 5th row captain skill to make the secondaries more accurate when manually targetting ships? If you have it, you need to target ships manually by pressing ctrl and clicking on the ship you want the secondaries to shoot at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #4 Posted March 27, 2016 Did you put the 5 point secondary skill on it? In the skill description it says that you need to mark a target (left click on it) in order for your secondaries to fire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NLD] Genie_of_the_Lamp Players 160 posts 37,001 battles Report post #5 Posted March 27, 2016 I did put the fifth skill yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NLD] Genie_of_the_Lamp Players 160 posts 37,001 battles Report post #6 Posted March 27, 2016 Did you put the 5 point secondary skill on it? In the skill description it says that you need to mark a target (left click on it) in order for your secondaries to fire. Well what I experienced was that a ship only 2 km from me didnt receive any sec gunfire from me though that ship was even focussed, naturally also because it was the only vessel in range. Well, in any case thanks for the answers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett50 Beta Tester 236 posts 3,050 battles Report post #7 Posted March 27, 2016 Remember that also directly in front and directly behind your ship are secondary 'blind spots' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Solo_Wing_Potato Players 317 posts 7,782 battles Report post #8 Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Well what I experienced was that a ship only 2 km from me didnt receive any sec gunfire from me though that ship was even focussed, naturally also because it was the only vessel in range. Well, in any case thanks for the answers Just to be doubly certain, you do realise that focusing the main guns and secondary's are two separate things? To allocate a target for secondary gun fire you have to left click the desired target, even if its targeted for the main guns the secondary's won't fire unless you left click the target. If you are doing all that then it sounds like it might be a bug. Unless as Brett mentions the ship is in your blind spot. Edited March 27, 2016 by Ace_Rimmer01 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ajappat Weekend Tester 477 posts 6,353 battles Report post #9 Posted March 27, 2016 Well what I experienced was that a ship only 2 km from me didnt receive any sec gunfire from me though that ship was even focussed, naturally also because it was the only vessel in range. Well, in any case thanks for the answers So you pressed Control (to bring up cursor) and left clicked that enemy? It is not automatically focused because it's only enemy in range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NLD] Genie_of_the_Lamp Players 160 posts 37,001 battles Report post #10 Posted March 27, 2016 Brett I know that. Didnt work when im even at broad with the enemy at 2 km. Troublemaker I watched the perk egain on fifth level you cant click it, but the descirption appears automatically when you point y mouse on it. It says indeed you may manually control the target. BUT it doesnt say HOW. When you look in the settings under key controls; YOu cant find any button to configure or assign to your secundairy guns. The only reference towards secundairy guns given in the control settings section is the button P which put off AA and Sec guns. See for yourself. So it must go off automatically at any target you are focussed on the usual way (I hope) Still a mystery to me how to do it. Waiting for the answer on my ticket I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ajappat Weekend Tester 477 posts 6,353 battles Report post #11 Posted March 27, 2016 Still a mystery to me how to do it. Waiting for the answer on my ticket I guess. Blind? So you pressed Control (to bring up cursor) and left clicked that enemy? It is not automatically focused because it's only enemy in range. Just to be doubly certain, you do realise that focusing the main guns and secondary's are two separate things? To allocate a target for secondary gun fire you have to left click the desired target, even if its targeted for the main guns the secondary's won't fire unless you left click the target. If you are doing all that then it sounds like it might be a bug. Unless as Brett mentions the ship is in your blind spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NLD] Genie_of_the_Lamp Players 160 posts 37,001 battles Report post #12 Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Well i put the same captain in my ARP myoko Used the cntrol button by any means in combo with any f##$$@* mouse button ; nothing happens And AjaPat why isnt the use of this feature not simply integrated into the settings section?? So it would be Obvious to see for everyone... Edited March 27, 2016 by Genie_of_the_Lamp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] Kevbar Beta Tester 687 posts 8,087 battles Report post #13 Posted March 27, 2016 In Aslains Mod Pack, there is a training room enabler. Maybe install that and find out what is happening instead of being frustrated in 'live' battles. It does sound like you're getting confused with how the mod works. http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Crew_%28WoWS%29 https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Manual+Fire+Control+for+Secondary+Armament Maybe something here ^^^ might help. GL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #14 Posted March 27, 2016 OP, I think you missunderstood me. In case you do have the 5 point skill for secondaries, when you are in game and there is an opponent in range of your secondaries, they wont fire unless you press CTRL, then, while holding CTRL, mouse cursor will appear on your screen and you need to click on the target that is within secondaries range for your secondaries to shoot at it, otherwise they wont shoot. That is because of the 5 point secondaries skill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PANEU] kfa Beta Tester 1,975 posts 13,875 battles Report post #15 Posted March 27, 2016 Some people shouldnt be allowed to be on the internet. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Lepr0n Supertest Coordinator, Alpha Tester 573 posts 12,060 battles Report post #16 Posted March 27, 2016 Just to be sure. You did have the secondaries activated right? The P button? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #17 Posted March 27, 2016 Google translate error, or reading comprehension failure, not sure which but something seems to be going very wrong here. OP, I think you missunderstood me. In case you do have the 5 point skill for secondaries, when you are in game and there is an opponent in range of your secondaries, they wont fire unless you press CTRL, then, while holding CTRL, mouse cursor will appear on your screen and you need to click on the target that is within secondaries range for your secondaries to shoot at it, otherwise they wont shoot. That is because of the 5 point secondaries skill. OP, read this please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NLD] Genie_of_the_Lamp Players 160 posts 37,001 battles Report post #18 Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Just to be sure. You did have the secondaries activated right? The P button? i did not activate it... played again a game in the ARP Hiei with my 16 points captain Be4 that I put my controls at default again in the settings menu. Well i was in game battle vs A same vessel face to face but guess what made me lose, no secundairy gunfire came out of my vessel while the other one kept on pounding my hull. Conrtol doesnt work in como with anything else. But ppl look....its not in the menu of settings either so.... So again the question what could be the cause. I wish WG could simply an extra button function for every one to see and know, just like Edited March 27, 2016 by Genie_of_the_Lamp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Unintentional_submarine [SPUDS] Beta Tester 4,052 posts 8,765 battles Report post #19 Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) i did not activate it... played again a game in the ARP Hiei with my 16 points captain Be4 that I put my controls at default again in the settings menu. Well i was in game battle vs A same vessel face to face but guess what made me lose, no secundairy gunfire came out of my vessel while the other one kept on pounding my hull. Conrtol doesnt work in como with anything else. But ppl look....its not in the menu of settings either so.... So again the question what could be the cause. I wish WG could simply an extra button function for every one to see and know, just like Ok, let's try again... This is what you are looking for. Left side. Press it and hold it, a mouse cursor should appear. Move the mouse cursor to the offending enemy ship. Left click on the enemy ship, still while holding Ctrl. An indicator should appear around the focus marker so it is different from normal. That indicates that the secondaries now focused on that ship. If left Ctrl does not give you a mouse cursor while holding it, something is wrong and we can't help you I'm afraid, as it does in fact not show up in the Settings/Controls list (which is quite bad honestly). It is also reasonably bad that there is no ingame way of finding out how to manually focus a target, given how it has a significant impact on gameplay through not only captain skills, but just through normal play (focused aircraft take more damage). But now you have been given all the information we are able to provide you with. Edited March 27, 2016 by Unintentional_submarine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #20 Posted March 27, 2016 Are you stupid? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asakka Players 850 posts Report post #21 Posted March 27, 2016 Its same as when you ctrl-focus fire planes. Do you know you can do that ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Unintentional_submarine [SPUDS] Beta Tester 4,052 posts 8,765 battles Report post #22 Posted March 27, 2016 Are you stupid? Well, if it still fails after my post, I'm done here. Can only be one of three options, incurably fail, crazy bad translation or troll. All of them equally impossible to deal without outside of just stopping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NLD] Genie_of_the_Lamp Players 160 posts 37,001 battles Report post #23 Posted March 27, 2016 Ok, let's try again... This is what you are looking for. Left side. Press it and hold it, a mouse cursor should appear. Move the mouse cursor to the offending enemy ship. Left click on the enemy ship, still while holding Ctrl. An indicator should appear around the focus marker so it is different from normal. That indicates that the secondaries now focused on that ship. If left Ctrl does not give you a mouse cursor while holding it, something is wrong and we can't help you I'm afraid, as it does in fact not show up in the Settings/Controls list (which is quite bad honestly). It is also reasonably bad that there is no ingame way of finding out how to manually focus a target, given how it has a significant impact on gameplay through not only captain skills, but just through normal play (focused aircraft take more damage). But now you have been given all the information we are able to provide you with. ....... .... Well at first thanks for your understanding and patience to help me. Its not nc to see here ppl think im stupid or dumb...how rude I ll try it like the way you show; for WG isnt showing this to their WOW users officially. And if this has no effect i guess I have to get a new keyboard. This one is from early 90s but works perfect all those years and its not dirty etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] StringWitch Beta Tester 1,608 posts Report post #24 Posted March 27, 2016 Remember that also directly in front and directly behind your ship are secondary 'blind spots' Unless you're Arkansas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #25 Posted March 27, 2016 Btw, if he's German, he won't find it. The button has a different label on German keyboards (but it works the same way). Let's wait and see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites