[STEG] chaosrealm93 Players 444 posts 7,465 battles Report post #1 Posted March 20, 2016 hey all, statistically speaking, the 203s offer a lot for the reduced RPM, (better turret rotation, better HE and AP), but is it worth mounting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Ictogan Players 1,841 posts 7,432 battles Report post #2 Posted March 20, 2016 Even with the lower RPM and double turrets instead of triples, the 203s are doing a lot more damage in most situations and the turret traverse makes the 155s horrible to use. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #3 Posted March 20, 2016 To my experience, the 155s are a bit better IF you plan on spamming BBs with HE and killing DDs from afar, and you can plan ahead enough to make due with the glacial turret rotation. The 203s are still the jack of all trade guns, and you can easily switch from peppering a BB from afar with HE to shooting at CA citadels from mid range. It's just more flexible. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScratxNeko Players 453 posts Report post #4 Posted March 20, 2016 155mm have more DPM on paper but the trouble is 203mm, AP or HE, just have a lot easier time actually doing damage when they hit, which does a lot to even out the difference in the end... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GOEPT] Crusherheads [GOEPT] Weekend Tester 559 posts Report post #5 Posted March 20, 2016 love those 155mm they wreck DDs so hard, not to mention when u load AP for broadside other cruisers 2-3 citadels in 1 salvo freaking cool, and the fire? it pops up constantly prefer them over the 203, germans and US benefit more from 203 due their nice reload, on japs? nop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STEG] chaosrealm93 Players 444 posts 7,465 battles Report post #6 Posted March 20, 2016 love those 155mm they wreck DDs so hard, not to mention when u load AP for broadside other cruisers 2-3 citadels in 1 salvo freaking cool, and the fire? it pops up constantly prefer them over the 203, germans and US benefit more from 203 due their nice reload, on japs? nop. they do, but at this tier, most DDs dont get that close i could see your point at T6 with teh cleveland, hell... ive dont it myself. fighting aobas and DDs with 155s are a joy, but at T8, shimakazes and long range torps are the worry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STEG] chaosrealm93 Players 444 posts 7,465 battles Report post #7 Posted March 20, 2016 To my experience, the 155s are a bit better IF you plan on spamming BBs with HE and killing DDs from afar, and you can plan ahead enough to make due with the glacial turret rotation. The 203s are still the jack of all trade guns, and you can easily switch from peppering a BB from afar with HE to shooting at CA citadels from mid range. It's just more flexible. thats true it took me quite a long time to warm up to the myokos 203s, but i think im finally there the one gripe i had with the ship was the weird 2 front-3 back turret orientation, it makes it really hard to shuck and jive and shoot btw, did they nerf the mogami in 0.5.3? the saying used to be the 155s was the way to go in the mogami..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #8 Posted March 20, 2016 thats true it took me quite a long time to warm up to the myokos 203s, but i think im finally there the one gripe i had with the ship was the weird 2 front-3 back turret orientation, it makes it really hard to shuck and jive and shoot btw, did they nerf the mogami in 0.5.3? the saying used to be the 155s was the way to go in the mogami..... Well the Myoko's advantage is that she could run away and zigzag with 3 turrets on target. A niche role, but one that's really appreciated when you have an angry Iowa chasing you down They didn't really nerf it directly, in fact they gave it a slight range increase, but what made the 155 Mogami worth it was the commander skill that let you shoot with 155mm guns up to 17km away, and increased turret rotation speed to almost the speed of the 203s. It was almost a no brainer. But since they changed that skill to work only one guns up to 139mm , the Mogami got a smack in the face with the nerf bat. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GOEPT] Crusherheads [GOEPT] Weekend Tester 559 posts Report post #9 Posted March 20, 2016 wait till u get ibuki what a rubish ship compared to the other countrys... it sadness my heart honestly... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Gojuadorai Players 2,832 posts 21,712 battles Report post #10 Posted March 20, 2016 while the mogami is not so nice now ive found 203 to be much more "playable" than the 155 largely due to the massively better turret rotation. with 155 you have often the choice show broadside or dont fire for a while which is choice between "bad and worse" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Pekoe_Darjeeling Weekend Tester 2,385 posts 10,008 battles Report post #11 Posted March 20, 2016 155 are just better. The HE spam is unbelievable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STEG] chaosrealm93 Players 444 posts 7,465 battles Report post #12 Posted March 20, 2016 wait till u get ibuki what a rubish ship compared to the other countrys... it sadness my heart honestly... hahhah is it really that bad? at least you get hte range upgrade over the mogami....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Comrad_StaIin Beta Tester 4,594 posts 20,080 battles Report post #13 Posted March 20, 2016 hahhah is it really that bad? at least you get hte range upgrade over the mogami....... the Ibuki? bad? no way it can stealth fire with a 20% fire chance the nightmare of BBs 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScratxNeko Players 453 posts Report post #14 Posted March 20, 2016 thats true it took me quite a long time to warm up to the myokos 203s, but i think im finally there the one gripe i had with the ship was the weird 2 front-3 back turret orientation, it makes it really hard to shuck and jive and shoot btw, did they nerf the mogami in 0.5.3? the saying used to be the 155s was the way to go in the mogami..... The skills were nerfed to the ground. AFT and BFT no longer affect primary 155mm batteries, so you don't get the 18km range and much accelerated fire rate. But that isn't the worst nerf for the 155mm Mogami. Expert Marksman , the turret rotation buff skill, also got nerfed. It now only gives 0.7 degrees per second rotation buff. Which, with the 155mm glacial turning speeds, means you're quite screwed at close range or if you need to start maneuvering. Like, you know, if you want to dodge incoming fire. The 203mm were usually relegated to second fiddle precisely because the skills could make up for all the 155mm faults and then some. It is no longer the case. the Ibuki? bad? no way it can stealth fire with a 20% fire chance the nightmare of BBs Stealth fire AND heals! Yeah, it's not bad at all. Also can ninja almost as well as a Mogami if you stealth-spec it. It's a good ship. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STEG] chaosrealm93 Players 444 posts 7,465 battles Report post #15 Posted March 20, 2016 Stealth fire AND heals! Yeah, it's not bad at all. Also can ninja almost as well as a Mogami if you stealth-spec it. It's a good ship. LOL i never sailed the iBuki, couldnt tell if he was being sarcastic or not........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STEG] chaosrealm93 Players 444 posts 7,465 battles Report post #16 Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) god damn the mogami [edited] only 7 games in and im getting rekt in record time im starting to think i wasted 8M credits on a [edited] boat =\ BUT i've still got the 203s to try out, maybe they'll be the great redeemer :s Edited March 21, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation.RogDodgeUK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azalgor Beta Tester 1,046 posts 20,412 battles Report post #17 Posted March 20, 2016 I played the stock Mogami long ago, sold her as i needed cash for Zao but wanted to grind silver to get her back, she was a very nice ship, then the stock mogami got nerfed, before the captain skill change, she could get very good range from 4th skill and the mod, and her rapid fire (with 2nd captain skill before change) alowed you to rain down shells on anything from a very safe distance of around 19km and you were a nightmare for any DD withinf 10 km, now i have my doubdts about purchasing her, she just isnt what she was supposed to be back in the day... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STEG] chaosrealm93 Players 444 posts 7,465 battles Report post #18 Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) I played the stock Mogami long ago, sold her as i needed cash for Zao but wanted to grind silver to get her back, she was a very nice ship, then the stock mogami got nerfed, before the captain skill change, she could get very good range from 4th skill and the mod, and her rapid fire (with 2nd captain skill before change) alowed you to rain down shells on anything from a very safe distance of around 19km and you were a nightmare for any DD withinf 10 km, now i have my doubdts about purchasing her, she just isnt what she was supposed to be back in the day... i agree though ive only just started out, it feels like what you said [edited] i watch all those videos from phly and baron and flamu on how great the mogami is and its night and day when i play it Edited March 21, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation.RogDodgeUK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rafparis Beta Tester 872 posts 4,381 battles Report post #19 Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) i watch all those videos from phly and baron and flamu on how great the mogami is and its night and day when i play it It WAS great with the 155mm before the nerfs. It was my prefered ship. Now it is a [edited, i sold mine and grinded to Zao. Edited March 21, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation.RogDodgeUK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waxx25 Players 1,296 posts 11,488 battles Report post #20 Posted March 21, 2016 wait till u get ibuki what a rubish ship compared to the other countrys... it sadness my heart honestly... Yours obviously a bad player to say such things. Ibuki is a fantastic ship. Itsbeverything you wanted the mogamj to be. @OP the mogami 203 are the better choice after the 155 range nerf. A full volley of 203 HE will do massive dmg to enemy tier 8-10 ships where the 155s are a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D7v Players 585 posts 13,134 battles Report post #21 Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) THe only good Mogami is sold Mogami for good ! Edited March 21, 2016 by Vaspurakanian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TNT-] mrak1979 Beta Tester 476 posts 9,018 battles Report post #22 Posted March 21, 2016 I prefere 203mm guns for the turret traverse speed and is able to do significant damage with both ammo types. 155mm is nice against DDs but if he pops out sudenly you have to turn ship to engage him because most of the time its not possible train turrets fast enought and 155mm guns loose damage against BBs T8-10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EW_YK] Barkyro Players 439 posts 13,829 battles Report post #23 Posted March 21, 2016 I also had problems with the Mogami until I got the 203's on her. Being used to these from the Atago with the 203's and always remembering to angle yourself the Mogami is a quite decent ship but considering I also just got the New Orleans I can easily say that gun wise a full Mogami it is way behind a stock NO but all in all it is a decent ship could use the heal ability tho imho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FIFO] ilhilh [FIFO] Beta Tester 2,451 posts 7,514 battles Report post #24 Posted March 21, 2016 I've only just bought mine. 7 games in and with last night's 3x I unlocked the 203s so I'm yet to play mine with them on. The 155s are a bit of a pain with the atrocious traverse, but I played relatively conservatively with them. After the AFT changes running with the 203s was always my game plan. It does seem quite a slow ship though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TAITO] Tuuletar Players 325 posts 4,917 battles Report post #25 Posted March 21, 2016 AFT Lost so 155mm is not working. They should increace the 155mm range so it could be useful i quess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
