Soviet Battleships

[D7v]

I know they haven't completed any but there were so many blueprints and projects also they almost completed some but then cruisers were becoming the main force of all navies so cancelled will they include them sometime in the future ? Anybody heard something about that ?

[Deamon93]

I know they haven't completed any but there were so many blueprints and projects also they almost completed some but then cruisers were becoming the main force of all navies so cancelled will they include them sometime in the future ? Anybody heard something about that ?

 

Depends on which period you are considering. If you're considering the naval rearmament under Stalin there were the Projekt 23 BBs in the works(their construction was halted due to the German invasion). After WWII they made a revised version(Projekt 24) but that project was canceled(I don't recall the exact reason). In any case there were a lot of designs which remained on paper, both for the Imperial and the Soviet Navy.

[MrFingers]

There were BB's in the Soviet/Russian Navy, but many of them were taken from other countries (either on loan, or as war reparation). Arkhangelsk (Royal Sovereign), Novorossiysk (ex-Guilio Cesare)

 

 

They had numerous pre-dreadnoughts, and also the Gangut-class and Imperatritsa Mariya-class dreadnoughts.

[D7v]

So actually up to tier 6 they can use real ships and then 7-10 paper ships i am ok with that would like to see Sovyetsky Soyuz project 

[Historynerd]

There were BB's in the Soviet/Russian Navy, but many of them were taken from other countries (either on loan, or as war reparation). Arkhangelsk (Royal Sovereign), Novorossiysk (ex-Guilio Cesare)

 

They had numerous pre-dreadnoughts, and also the Gangut-class and Imperatritsa Mariya-class dreadnoughts.

 

"Many" seems excessive, since there were those two foreign BBs against eight dreadnoughts planned (and seven completed) of the Gangut- and Imperatritsa Mariya-class, plus the Imperator Nikolai I; the count is even lower if we consider the four Borodino-class and two Kronshtadt-class battlecruisers, laid down but never completed.

[ColonelPete]

There will be a RU BB line, you can be sure of it.

 

Since they said they started working on the RU cruiser line two years ago, I bet they are already working on the BB line.

My guess would be summer 2017, winter at the latest.

[Dampfboot]

Very stronk ships with Vodka for fuel.

They will be released before the Royal Navy BBs.

[LostSpider]

seriously , did soviets have a navy on WW2? why the rush to introduce them?

[IamTroublemaker]

seriously , did soviets have a navy on WW2? why the rush to introduce them?

 

They were the easiest to access for WG and the biggest community is the Russian one.

[VC381]

Imperator was never completed but the classes from around that time were similar and in their WWII refits could be justified at Tier V. Borodino class battlecruiser has the armament to justify her at Tier 6. After that it gets iffy. Sovietsky Soyuz would need to be Tier 9 or 10, the gap would be filled with projects, the most famous of which I guess would be the Krnoshtadt and Stalingrad class battlecruisers but I'm sure WG can dig up more sketches same as they did with the cruisers. Those last two battlecruiser classes I mentioned are beautiful and interesting ships, which would be fun to include as a "test" of how a very modern battlecruiser but with small guns (11" and 12" respectively) compared to contemporary BBs can be balanced.

[Warrus_87]

seriously , did soviets have a navy on WW2? why the rush to introduce them?

 

it's very simple, the game is made in russia for a belarussian company (former soviet country) with a game whose highest player base is russian. It's not rocket science that they would focus on soviet ships over others, in fact it would be stupid for them not to IMO.

[Trigger_Happy_Dad]

BBs

Ekaterina-II-Klasse (1889)

Imperator Aleksandr II-Klasse (1891)

Tri Sviatitelia (1896)

Rotislaw (1896)

Petropawlowsk-Klasse (1897)

Pereswet-Klasse (1900)

Zessesarewitsch (1901)

Knjas Potjomkin Tawritscheski (1905)

Jewstafi (1911)

Andrei Pervozvanny-Klasse (1911)

Gangut-Klasse (1914)

Marat  (modernisierte Gangut-Klasse)

Noworossijsk (1914)

Imperatriza-Marija-Klasse (1915)

Archangelsk (1916)

Sowjetski-Sojus-Klasse (1935)

Stalingrad-Klasse Projekt 82 (1951)

Tretij Internacional 

 

CLs / CAs

Gromoboi (1899)

Rossija (1896)

Askold (1900)

Izumrud-Klasse (1901)

Bayan-Klasse (1902)

Pallada-Klasse (1902)

Bogatyr-Klasse (1902)

Rurik (1906)

Nowik (1911)

Svetlana-Klasse (1915)

Admiral Nhakimov-Klasse (1917)

Kronshtadt-Klasse [Projekt 69] (1939)

Chapayev [Projekt 68] (1939)

Kirov-Klasse [Projekt 26]  (1938)

Maxim-Gorkiy (1940)

 

DDs

Derzky-Klassse (1913)

Orfei-Klasse (1915)

Fidonisy-Klasse (1916)

Isjaslaw-Klasse (1917)

Mărăști-Klasse (1917)

Yakov Sverdlov  (1917)

Town-Klasse (1920)

Leningrad-Klasse (1936)

Tashkent-Klasse (1939)

Gnevny-Klasse (1938) 

Soobrazitelnyy-Klasse (1940) 

Opytny-Klasse (1941)

Ognevoy-Klasse (1944)

 

siehe auch:

 

CVs / projects

Commune

Komsomolec

Izmail

Krasnoye Znamya (*)

Krasnaya Ploshchad  (*)

Projekt 69AV

Projekt 71

Projekt 72

Projekt Kostromitinov

Projekt 85

 

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/1647-list-of-soviet-cvs-projects/

 

 

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/16043-der-russische-forschungsbaum-moeglichkeiten/

[44smok]

LOL where did you get that third international bull crap from? Nothing like that ever existed.

[Peffers]

LOL where did you get that third international bull crap from? Nothing like that ever existed.

 

The following series of essays and pictures regard a fictional set of Imperial Japanese naval vessels developed by my friend Admiral U. Furashita. These units never sailed the seas, except in the Admiral's imagination, as part of his "Victory Through Seapower" World War II wargame. I hope you are as amused by them as I am.

 

http://www.combinedfleet.com/furashita/furamain.htm

 

Alternative history stuff.

 

EDIT

also the guys blog

 

http://furashitas-fleet-memos.blogspot.co.uk/

 

This page is an apology because some from the shallower end of the gene pool believed the stuff.

[Vogel]

 

They were the easiest to access for WG and the biggest community is the Russian one.

 

I find the first part hard to believe, considering that they said it took them three years before they got the Russian CAs modelled. 

[Deamon93]

 

I find the first part hard to believe, considering that they said it took them three years before they got the Russian CAs modelled. 

 

Two years for the whole process(research, modelling, art etc etc). Still it was already known the fact that it takes some time to complete the whole process, without taking into account the country of origin(which may or may not influence the initial research, depending on how complicated is to access the material and so on).

[Caves_of_Steel]

for bbs there is actually very very little for russia 

the first Dreadnought bb is too strong for t3 Gangut class had a speed of 24 knots and 12 305 mm guns  

the last actually finished russian bbs were the Imperatritsa Mariya-class and they are very similiar with more armor less speed and also  12 305 mm guns 

after this the imperator nicolai is already in the game and here ends imperial russian bbs 

soviets did not finish any bb class 

so actually only two of the ship classes we will see for the russian bb tree will be "real" ships 

than again : i dont care i'm fine with paper designs 

 

but keep this in mind ... i guess it will take wg some time to come up with a russian bb line for so little bbs have been build

[Aroru1]

If there ever be a Russian BB line, I hope they will use this ship.

http://www.navypedia.org/ships/russia/ru_bb_vyborg.htm

[ColonelPete]

I doubt that.

[triumphgt6]

I want this one - mainly to see it spinning round when it fires its guns!

[Combat_Hamster]

Ah  triumph  you mean  the Novgorod..don't  even  need to follow the link...nice  idea...7  props  and seven rudders  I think..shame it didn't  work...it did on another  private gin palace  they built apparently

[woppy101]

I'm sure when WG release the Russian battleship line they will be the most powerful battleships ever to sail the 7 seas, please remember guys the Russian navy was the most powerful navy ever seen on the face of the earth(well according to the idiots at WG anyway)

[viceadmiral123]

Seeing the Soviet "cruisers", I wonder if the Soviet Battleships will have 130,000 hit points and fire 20k AP ammo, being balanced by their poor concealment.

[Darth_Glorious]

The tier 10 Soviet BB has better gun than Yamato ones

[woppy101]

The tier 10 Soviet BB has better gun than Yamato ones

Yep and its an absolute joke, these muppets at WG really do have a lot to answer for, the Yamato had the biggest most powerful guns ever mounted on a battleship, yet WG make a Russian ship (that was never even conceived never mind designed)more powerfull!