D7v Players 585 posts 13,149 battles Report post #1 Posted March 17, 2016 Hey guys what do you think ? Kiev and Tashkent have same guns with kiev one tier lower being a decent seal clubber. Anybody kept it or just sold for the Tash ? Ognevoi was certainly no keeper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEAM_] Dampfboot Players 1,367 posts 11,386 battles Report post #2 Posted March 17, 2016 Kiev is a great ship, Tashkent is määäh... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ragoutrabbit Players 274 posts 1,835 battles Report post #3 Posted March 17, 2016 Kiev is awful... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D7v Players 585 posts 13,149 battles Report post #4 Posted March 17, 2016 Kiev is a great ship, Tashkent is määäh... Yeah doesnt seem like an upgrade but Udaloi on paper seems so at least Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D7v Players 585 posts 13,149 battles Report post #5 Posted March 17, 2016 Kiev is awful... low hp makes it so Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ragoutrabbit Players 274 posts 1,835 battles Report post #6 Posted March 17, 2016 low hp makes it so It's not the HP thats the problem it's the fact it's piss easy to hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Mayv Players 1,952 posts 7,021 battles Report post #7 Posted March 17, 2016 Kiev is the best non-premium tier 7 DD I'd say. Just after unlocking the Taskent, but I am not keeping the Kiev since I have the Blyskawica. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIMI] MudMonkey Beta Tester 1,338 posts 8,378 battles Report post #8 Posted March 17, 2016 I loved the Kiev and I am thinking about buying it back. I just got the Tashkent which is awful (but thats because it's still stock). It is only easy to hit if you dont upgrade your rudder-shift time. After that its quite nimble. A downside are the awful HE rounds and that bad concealment. That you lose your turrets that fast is something they need to fix asap. Still, it is one of the most fun DDs I was playing up to now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D7v Players 585 posts 13,149 battles Report post #9 Posted March 17, 2016 If I had Gremyaschy I wouldnt need to keep the Kiev hope it will be resold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #10 Posted March 17, 2016 Can't give you advice on this one... Being a pathologic collector I haven't sold any of my ships and got them all.... 74 and counting.... It's even worse: I like to just be in port and look at them all. How pathetic is that? Before you call the white dressed guys and the van, to my defense: I just love the wonderful detail, programming and beauty of the ships WG has made! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GW_KR] nooberg Players 227 posts 25,887 battles Report post #11 Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) Kiev took a heavy beating from the nerf bat. Now, a shadow of its former glory. I say go for Tashkent. Upgraded its quite good ship. 12k health vs 19 k (survive much better) 4km torps vs 8km (these come quite handy) Same guns. Worse rudder shift on Tashkent and a bit worse concealment. But you should know how to work around that by now. I say lose the Kiev, climb higher and keep Gnevny. Edited March 17, 2016 by nooberg 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D7v Players 585 posts 13,149 battles Report post #12 Posted March 17, 2016 Kiev took a heavy beating from the nerf bat. Now, a shadow of its former glory. I say go for Tashkent. Upgraded its quite good ship. 12k health vs 19 k (survive much better) 4km torps vs 8km (these come quite handy) Same guns. Worse rudder shift on Tashkent and a bit worse concealment. But you should know how to work around that by now. I say lose the Kiev, climb higher and keep Gnevny. Liked the ideas thanks ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Gojuadorai Players 2,832 posts 21,712 battles Report post #13 Posted March 17, 2016 hwhile im not a fan of the kiev(nowdays) ifeel like its better on its tier than the tash if you like it keep it and sell the tash after youre through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Loran_Battle Beta Tester 1,245 posts Report post #14 Posted March 17, 2016 Can't give you advice on this one... Being a pathologic collector I haven't sold any of my ships and got them all.... 74 and counting.... It's even worse: I like to just be in port and look at them all. How pathetic is that? Before you call the white dressed guys and the van, to my defense: I just love the wonderful detail, programming and beauty of the ships WG has made! Don't feel bad man... I have 88 ships atm. I have no clue what the word "selling" means... I'm at the Ognevoi at the moment. And it has just sapped all the life out of me... how is this ship considered balanced in any way? It would be bad even at tier 4... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Mayv Players 1,952 posts 7,021 battles Report post #15 Posted March 17, 2016 Don't feel bad man... I have 88 ships atm. I have no clue what the word "selling" means... I'm at the Ognevoi at the moment. And it has just sapped all the life out of me... how is this ship considered balanced in any way? It would be bad even at tier 4... It the fact it only has 2 turrets. One getting destroyed has a much bigger impact on the Ognevoi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EsaTuunanen Beta Tester 3,552 posts 8,863 battles Report post #16 Posted March 17, 2016 and keep Gnevny. If being able to work with slow gun traverse Gnevny would be definite keeper because of it meeting so many lovely cruisers citadellable from nice range when in perfect angle: Kuma up to 10km, Furutaka and Aoba 8km. Phoenix/Omaha 9km Königsberg and Nürnberg in same ballpark. If you can surprise tunnelvisioning Kuma from below 5km APs will go through from quite big angle. If I had Gremyaschy I wouldnt need to keep the Kiev hope it will be resold Kiev is really the first DD I definitely don't want engage alone in Gremyashchy. That should tell what Kiev can still do despite of being nerfbatted twice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KR_] woodyudet_17 Beta Tester 124 posts 16,911 battles Report post #17 Posted March 17, 2016 Got both and I prefer Kiev over Tashkent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FaceFisted Beta Tester 868 posts 5,081 battles Report post #18 Posted March 17, 2016 If I had Gremyaschy I wouldnt need to keep the Kiev hope it will be resold I have both Gremyashy and KIev. I am keeping Kiev for sure, this DD is awesome for it's tier. Gremyashy will probably not be resold. I think it will be award ship for some hard contest, like we had that Best of the year at the end of 2015. If it by any chance get to store, be sure it will be in 50€ bundle and for that money it's just not worth it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D7v Players 585 posts 13,149 battles Report post #19 Posted March 18, 2016 I have both Gremyashy and KIev. I am keeping Kiev for sure, this DD is awesome for it's tier. Gremyashy will probably not be resold. I think it will be award ship for some hard contest, like we had that Best of the year at the end of 2015. If it by any chance get to store, be sure it will be in 50€ bundle and for that money it's just not worth it. 50 euros for tier 5 i dont think so... gnevy is so lacking vs gremyaschy.. gnevy has nothing but 800 hp more and grem has usable torps ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STEG] chaosrealm93 Players 444 posts 7,465 battles Report post #20 Posted March 18, 2016 Kiev is a great ship, Tashkent is määäh... Kiev is awful... gotta love it when 1st and 2nd comments clash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EmilyFara Players 1,091 posts 2,423 battles Report post #21 Posted March 18, 2016 Can't give you advice on this one... Being a pathologic collector I haven't sold any of my ships and got them all.... 74 and counting.... It's even worse: I like to just be in port and look at them all. How pathetic is that? Before you call the white dressed guys and the van, to my defense: I just love the wonderful detail, programming and beauty of the ships WG has made! Im going the same route as you are. Because I have this strange tickling in the back of the mind that goes "remember that crapship you sold a while ago, you had some great battles in it didn't you? Wouldn't it be fun to play again?" So I ended up selling and rebuying ships. Now I just dont sell them anymore >_< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNNVY] moggy242 Players 20 posts 6,471 battles Report post #22 Posted March 18, 2016 Think I will be keeping my Kiev. Its a nice cash earner and apart from that I just plain simple enjoy it. Just sunk 3 CA/CL's in quick game before work this morning. Still lost but made plenty of cash. Will be even better when I can improve the concealment. I may just freeze on the Russian DD's at this level and wait for the CA/CL line to work up another captain as I only have 1 at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phroco Beta Tester 78 posts 5,771 battles Report post #23 Posted March 18, 2016 I liked the Kiev but the first thing that will happen when you get the Tash is that you will sail into a lot of islands as the rudder shift is unbelievably bad at stock. However get past that and it's ok. The Udaloi is good, and a lot of fun and the Khabarovsk is more of the same just easier to get spotted and hit. You can dish out the damage in it and it's fast with decent torps and reasonable AA for an emergency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D7v Players 585 posts 13,149 battles Report post #24 Posted March 18, 2016 I liked the Kiev but the first thing that will happen when you get the Tash is that you will sail into a lot of islands as the rudder shift is unbelievably bad at stock. However get past that and it's ok. The Udaloi is good, and a lot of fun and the Khabarovsk is more of the same just easier to get spotted and hit. You can dish out the damage in it and it's fast with decent torps and reasonable AA for an emergency. Keeping just enough free xp to get hull upgrade stock is pain in all ships true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HARF] Picafort Beta Tester 2,711 posts 8,654 battles Report post #25 Posted March 18, 2016 I wonder how you guys always manage to keep all those ships. I always lack good captains and I'm not patient enough to train new ones... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites