Smoke screens are OP [edited]

[The_Gleam_Eyes]

this is just stupid, i am 1-2 km from a destroyer in a smoke screen, he keeps shelling me and i cant see him. that is absolute [edited], how about we follow logic, put a man on your ship and i can bet ANY money he would clearly see that destroyer.

[Pupu_prpr]

That's blatantly a lie, assured acquisition of all ships is 2km, meaning you would spot him if you were 2km from him, regardless of smoke.

[Dangerhamster]

If you can't see him how did you know how far away he was?

Special dramaqueen skills?

[Kazomir]

Guess you gonna like Russian cruisers, and the upgraded us ones.

[KptStrzyga]

Buy DD and be OP yourself. 

 

[Admiral_noodle]

I don't play DDs. Smoke is not OP. If someone is invisivifiring from smoke:

- don't charge in

- if in a cruiser use hydro

- if in a light cruiser spam the area with HE. Pay attention to where the shells are coming from

 

If in a BB walk away and ignore. Go somewhere else.

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

I play DD and somescreen is op.

[ColonelPete]

As Noodle said, just walk away, unless you have tools to fight a DD close range.

[Seaman_Staines1]

Can we have smoke screens deployed from aircraft.

It's a thing.........

[EmilyFara]

Enemy DD shooting in smoke? Join him and have a smoke party! They never expect you to charge in guns blazing xD. Nowhere to run and no more cover.

(Just be careful for his torps)

[EsaTuunanen]

Enemy DD shooting in smoke? Join him and have a smoke party! They never expect you to charge in guns blazing xD. Nowhere to run and no more cover.

(Just be careful for his torps)

Getting surprised by rushing in cruiser is definitely one the most dangerous things for DD.

Simply because of not having anything to cover retreat from that area when you run outside the smoke...

And most DDs don't have that much speed advantage over cruisers if it got inside detectability radius before you got to full speed.

[Userext]

Getting surprised by rushing in cruiser is definitely one the most dangerous things for DD.

Simply because of not having anything to cover retreat from that area when you run outside the smoke...

And most DDs don't have that much speed advantage over cruisers if it got inside detectability radius before you got to full speed.

 

and most torpedoes are dodgable at such close range because they havent spread far enough

[Myrmix]

Can we have smoke screens deployed from aircraft.

It's a thing.........

 

That would be awesome. Maybe with shorter duration than DD, but this would give some cool tactical possibilities for CVs

[Userext]

 

That would be awesome. Maybe with shorter duration than DD, but this would give some cool tactical possibilities for CVs

 

nfortunetly it would buff CVs against all enemies. So i would say nope

[MATREKUS]

That's blatantly a lie, assured acquisition of all ships is 2km, meaning you would spot him if you were 2km from him, regardless of smoke.

 

This is still just a game like any other, which means it has random bugs, packet loss, net lag etc....once a DD suddenly spawned in front of me from superclose distance (around 1,5 km or even less)....though this happened only once...so

[Myrmix]

 

nfortunetly it would buff CVs against all enemies. So i would say nope

 

Because CVs are the most OP atm and everyone plays them.... It would be an interesting approach for fighter-setups, where you can't deal a lot of damage by nature (compared to bomber-setups)

[Userext]

 

Because CVs are the most OP atm and everyone plays them.... It would be an interesting approach for fighter-setups, where you can't deal a lot of damage by nature (compared to bomber-setups)

 

No, i mean it is already hard enough to kill one of the buggers in anything but another CV giving them smoke would make them stronger because they can conceal themselves. A DD chasing a CV would auto lose over smoke

[CatOnKeyboard]

of course all the special snowflakes talk about their personal experience with smokescreens because they're the absolute authority on everything. Smoke is actually the only reason to play a Destroyer, so there's that.

 

[oosel]

i have my detect range down to 5.5km on fubuki and im always being used to get in close and keep the other side perma spotted and harassing them but being in that close at times always leads me to get detected by their lead dd anyway and when i am at that range you are guaranteed everything is then fired at me and more often than not most of it is all less than 10kms away so the need for smoke on my part is really needed just to get out alive and even then you still are almost wiped out in that first bout of shells........If i didnt have the smoke i may as well just purchase a shima instead and snipe from afar

[Xevious_Red]

Except a DD can escape in smoke because it's small, manoeuvrable, and hard to detect.

So when it pops smoke you don't know where it's gone inside the smoke screen, even if you have an idea it's still tricky to hit since you don't know where you're aiming exactly, and if it opens up the distance between you (leaving the rear of the smoke screen) it can be concealed again.

 

A Cv (if it could drop smoke rounds on itself) has a huge turning circle, so you can pretty much work out where it is. Since they're also large you could hit it easily simply by shooting vaguely into the smoke, and if it leaves the smoke you'd re-acquire it immediately.

 

A more useful ability if Cv had smoke would be to screen your team, while using fighters to spot enemy ships for them

 

[Userext]

Except a DD can escape in smoke because it's small, manoeuvrable, and hard to detect.

So when it pops smoke you don't know where it's gone inside the smoke screen, even if you have an idea it's still tricky to hit since you don't know where you're aiming exactly, and if it opens up the distance between you (leaving the rear of the smoke screen) it can be concealed again.

 

A Cv (if it could drop smoke rounds on itself) has a huge turning circle, so you can pretty much work out where it is. Since they're also large you could hit it easily simply by shooting vaguely into the smoke, and if it leaves the smoke you'd re-acquire it immediately.

 

Not true.

CV player sees DD coming over drops smoke from certain distance and cant be seen for a good long time. Did you know IJN has pretty concealed CVs? Trust me dude i tried to hunt CVs a lot. But it gets super hard dodging torpedo bombers and dive bombers while trying to torp the damn ship to death and calculating his moves... It gets pretty messy

[Hedgehog1963]

this is just stupid, i am 1-2 km from a destroyer in a smoke screen, he keeps shelling me and i cant see him. that is absolute [edited], how about we follow logic, put a man on your ship and i can bet ANY money he would clearly see that destroyer.

 

Then you would lose. 

[Xevious_Red]

 

Not true.

CV player sees DD coming over drops smoke from certain distance and cant be seen for a good long time. Did you know IJN has pretty concealed CVs? Trust me dude i tried to hunt CVs a lot. But it gets super hard dodging torpedo bombers and dive bombers while trying to torp the damn ship to death and calculating his moves... It gets pretty messy

 

Trying to hunt a CV in a destroyer that uses torps as it's main when the CV knows you're there, can see you, can see when you've launched torps and at what angle, and is actively running away from you is an exercise in futility.

It has all the time in the world to lazily avoid your torp spread, while waiting for you to turn sideways to try torping you again. It could probably even bait you into turning by making a large turn itself

 

Either hunt CV with a gunboat destroyer, or catch it unawares. If it spots you then break off and find another target or a better angle

[Seaman_Staines1]

 

nfortunetly it would buff CVs against all enemies. So i would say nope

 

In reality all ships can make smoke and we all know that would be impracticable in this game. But I think with a little imagination short duration, small spreed and a limit like 1 or 2 screens per battle like a DD this can work.

[Seaman_Staines1]

 

A more useful ability if Cv had smoke would be to screen your team, while using fighters to spot enemy ships for them

 

 

And that is precisely what air deployed smoke is for.

So your with me on this one......................................................