[HELLA] Anthoniusii Players 1,188 posts 24,395 battles Report post #1 Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) I have heard some speculations/rumors about the fact that British,French and Italian ships are not in game yet. Some people speculate that the lack of those ships comes directly from the trade embargo EU has over Russian Confederacy. Is this true or not? If its not true how you explain that Soviet cruisers that in their majority were ONLY blueprint designs come before the Royal Navy or The Royal Italian one or the French navy that all of them can give full line of ships of all categories? Instead of such ships we have to settle with comic cloned ships? Edited March 12, 2016 by Anthoniusii Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #2 Posted March 12, 2016 That doesnt make sense. Also WG is Belarusian, not Russian.It can easily be explained by the facts that it was easier for them to get the info about Russian ships and that the biggest server is the Russian and they need to make that community happier first. EDIT: Also it doesnt make sense to release all the content at once since the fact that new content is being released every now and then is what keeps the people interested in game and keeps it alive. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,960 battles Report post #3 Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) Sadly, the most likely reason is that WG are supporting their largest playerbase, the Russians soviets. It's a pity they were so shortsighted, but it's been discussed at length on the forums previously that the RN will eventually make it into the game - when hell freezes over and when WG admit they have poor customer service and made some really bad decisions - aka a long long time to come. Other than that, do a search next time and you'll find quite a few of similar topics already. Edit: ninja'd by the CRO. Edited March 12, 2016 by Shaka_D 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue_Bug Players 1,428 posts 7,991 battles Report post #4 Posted March 12, 2016 I have heard some speculations/rumors about the fact that British,French and Italian ships are not in game yet. Some people speculate that the lack of those ships comes directly from the trade embargo EU has over Russian Confederacy. Is this true or not? If its not true how you explain that Soviet cruisers that in their majority were ONLY blueprint designs come before the Royal Navy or The Royal Italian one or the French navy that all of them can give full line of ships of all categories? Instead of such ships we have to settle with comic cloned ships? No it isn't true. WG is a company based on Cyprus. Cyprus is a member of the EU. So it is even not posible. Please note that nobody ever sais that the French and Italian vessels would come soon. Latest info was that RN ships would be developed (not released) the same time as the RU Ca. It could be totaly posible that WG has the same problems as they had with the British tanks, that info they needed is still secret. It is more or less confirmed that the RN will come to the game this year. Maybe soon with a "new" premium. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HORN] Wolfenbane Players 374 posts Report post #5 Posted March 12, 2016 Has to be said again.So long as it's constant fresh content,that's good enough for me.Yup i'm a Scot and i'd love both RN and German lines but i don't care so long as they keep bringing new stuff into the game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrFingers Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 3,242 posts Report post #6 Posted March 12, 2016 That doesnt make sense. Also WG is Belarusian, not Russian. WG is just the publisher, the game is from Lesta (in St.Petersburg, Russia). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #7 Posted March 12, 2016 It could be totaly posible that WG has the same problems as they had with the British tanks, that info they needed is still secret. It is like that for some projects, but you cant prove it to some people on this forum. And for those that are available you have to wait for months to see them. Add to that the months it takes to model the ships and there you go, the reason why we got no RN yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_HUSO] typhaon Beta Tester 447 posts 954 battles Report post #8 Posted March 12, 2016 Sadly, the most likely reason is that WG are supporting their largest playerbase, the Russians soviets. It's a pity they were so shortsighted, but it's been discussed at length on the forums previously that the RN will eventually make it into the game - when hell freezes over and when WG admit they have poor customer service and made some really bad decisions - aka a long long time to come. Other than that, do a search next time and you'll find quite a few of similar topics already. Edit: ninja'd by the CRO. So you really think pleasing the majority of players is a bad thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LEOND] Foehamster419 Players 144 posts 5,246 battles Report post #9 Posted March 12, 2016 You can drive the Fuso and pretend it's a British ship. There are probably some mods out there that make it look British too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #10 Posted March 12, 2016 Or Kongo or Taskent for italian ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLOTH] txtspeak Players 3,041 posts 5,653 battles Report post #11 Posted March 12, 2016 Or Kongo or Taskent for italian ships. kongo was made and designed in britain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMoon51 Beta Tester 951 posts Report post #12 Posted March 12, 2016 It might be possible that as a company WG have more issues getting clearance for record offices in the West, thus holding up more logical(from a historical perspective)lines although I think that unlikely and although I disagree with them totally I think they believe that this is the best way to develop the game and I have little doubt that you will see a Soviet Carrier line before a 2nd RN line and I would toss a coin that you will see one before the 1st too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HELLA] Anthoniusii Players 1,188 posts 24,395 battles Report post #13 Posted March 12, 2016 That doesnt make sense. Also WG is Belarusian, not Russian. It can easily be explained by the facts that it was easier for them to get the info about Russian ships and that the biggest server is the Russian and they need to make that community happier first. EDIT: Also it doesnt make sense to release all the content at once since the fact that new content is being released every now and then is what keeps the people interested in game and keeps it alive. Belarus belongs to Russian economical confederacy. I would agree with your last sentence if WG would not consume time for cloned JAP and US destroyers with other flags as premium and 4 Kongo Battleships in the same game! Half of the Soviet Cruisers never builded and 1/3 of them are ships after WW2! What is more "interesting"? To have naval battles between British and German ships or have OP post WW2 Soviet cruisers? If that is the case could we wait Adams US destroyers as well? Sadly, the most likely reason is that WG are supporting their largest playerbase, the Russians soviets. It's a pity they were so shortsighted, but it's been discussed at length on the forums previously that the RN will eventually make it into the game - when hell freezes over and when WG admit they have poor customer service and made some really bad decisions - aka a long long time to come. Other than that, do a search next time and you'll find quite a few of similar topics already. Edit: ninja'd by the CRO. That is a "truth" also..But i do not buy it that Russians want so badly Soviet ships when they could have RN ships against German ones! No it isn't true. WG is a company based on Cyprus. Cyprus is a member of the EU. So it is even not posible. Please note that nobody ever sais that the French and Italian vessels would come soon. Latest info was that RN ships would be developed (not released) the same time as the RU Ca. It could be totaly posible that WG has the same problems as they had with the British tanks, that info they needed is still secret. It is more or less confirmed that the RN will come to the game this year. Maybe soon with a "new" premium. "Latest info" is also rumers like the ones i mention in my 1st post. Take the FACTS under consideration: 4 cloned Destroyers as premium ships 4 cloned ships as comic based ones! Total 8 ships atleast. That means WG despertly needs time to fool us all by "waiting" historical ships. Having expirience by WoT (i play it since patch 0.0.6) its most propably to see Soviet imaginary battleships before see historical RN.Italian or French ones. If WG did have lisence to use EU countries ships to put in game how comes and no Italian or French premium ship is not included in the game? WG makes 10 Soviet cruisers and is unable to create two premium ships the same time? Has to be said again.So long as it's constant fresh content,that's good enough for me.Yup i'm a Scot and i'd love both RN and German lines but i don't care so long as they keep bringing new stuff into the game. Depends from the stuff. World of Tanks brought imaginary autoloaders, WoWs will bring guided missiles before return to WW1/2 ships? It is like that for some projects, but you cant prove it to some people on this forum. And for those that are available you have to wait for months to see them. Add to that the months it takes to model the ships and there you go, the reason why we got no RN yet. See previus answer of mine. So you really think pleasing the majority of players is a bad thing? Yes...Take a look of WoTs . The "richest" customers are the Russians and the Far East ones. The most OP tanks in the latest patches are from those regions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meneleus Players 596 posts 7,522 battles Report post #14 Posted March 12, 2016 I think all of that hype is just conspiratorial nonsense from the ministry of tinfoil hats (the one next to the ministry of silly walks). WG aims to make money, not to enact a silly revenge scheme for acts beyond it's scope to control and would only hinder their primary aim. As for "Stronk" Russian ships, and the large number of them coming out, the answer is simple. It is their national heritage, and Russians I am told are very proud of their history. I guess that information pertaining said ships is more readily available to them too. Simply put: if WG was a French company you'd be complaining about the strength and numbers of French ships in the game. Cheers, M 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_HUSO] typhaon Beta Tester 447 posts 954 battles Report post #15 Posted March 12, 2016 Yes...Take a look of WoTs . The "richest" customers are the Russians and the Far East ones. The most OP tanks in the latest patches are from those regions. Everything done right... after all the main goal of a company is to make money. And it's easier to make money if more costumers are content. There have been many ambitious projects with good intentions that have failed simply because they didn't reach enough costumers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HELLA] Anthoniusii Players 1,188 posts 24,395 battles Report post #16 Posted March 12, 2016 I think all of that hype is just conspiratorial nonsense from the ministry of tinfoil hats (the one next to the ministry of silly walks). WG aims to make money, not to enact a silly revenge scheme for acts beyond it's scope to control and would only hinder their primary aim. As for "Stronk" Russian ships, and the large number of them coming out, the answer is simple. It is their national heritage, and Russians I am told are very proud of their history. I guess that information pertaining said ships is more readily available to them too. Simply put: if WG was a French company you'd be complaining about the strength and numbers of French ships in the game. Cheers, M Everyone is proud for his nation's history. But the name of the game is World of Warships not World of Soviet ships. Am I wrong? Soviet navy was actually INACTIVE durring WW2. Even the Brit/US aid came to Soviets with British and US ships and NO Soviet one!!!! French navy the surendered too early and destroyed in Africa by British saw more "action" than soviet navy!! Everything done right... after all the main goal of a company is to make money. And it's easier to make money if more costumers are content. There have been many ambitious projects with good intentions that have failed simply because they didn't reach enough costumers... True...But British customers also BUY game's projects aren't they? Aren't Italians considered customers of the game too? If its just a game -some will point out- then why WG did not start from Austrian or Nederlands ship lines? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FUMP] PzAbteilung Players 448 posts 13,867 battles Report post #17 Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) i think that even a russian would prefer play with the royal navy more than a soviets blueprints Im spanish, so i have no national reasons to prefer british ships, simply, they were so important and iconic in WWII. Edited March 12, 2016 by PzAbteilung 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #18 Posted March 12, 2016 It does take forever to get information out of the RN though 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #19 Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) Belarus belongs to Russian economical confederacy. I would agree with your last sentence if WG would not consume time for cloned JAP and US destroyers with other flags as premium and 4 Kongo Battleships in the same game! Half of the Soviet Cruisers never builded and 1/3 of them are ships after WW2! What is more "interesting"? To have naval battles between British and German ships or have OP post WW2 Soviet cruisers? If that is the case could we wait Adams US destroyers as well? That is a "truth" also..But i do not buy it that Russians want so badly Soviet ships when they could have RN ships against German ones! "Latest info" is also rumers like the ones i mention in my 1st post. Take the FACTS under consideration: 4 cloned Destroyers as premium ships 4 cloned ships as comic based ones! Total 8 ships atleast. That means WG despertly needs time to fool us all by "waiting" historical ships. Having expirience by WoT (i play it since patch 0.0.6) its most propably to see Soviet imaginary battleships before see historical RN.Italian or French ones. If WG did have lisence to use EU countries ships to put in game how comes and no Italian or French premium ship is not included in the game? WG makes 10 Soviet cruisers and is unable to create two premium ships the same time? Depends from the stuff. World of Tanks brought imaginary autoloaders, WoWs will bring guided missiles before return to WW1/2 ships? See previus answer of mine. Yes...Take a look of WoTs . The "richest" customers are the Russians and the Far East ones. The most OP tanks in the latest patches are from those regions. So you start a thread with a 'question' and when you get some replies now your true reason comes out. Well done, totally didn't see that coming. Edited March 12, 2016 by mtm78 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HELLA] Anthoniusii Players 1,188 posts 24,395 battles Report post #20 Posted March 12, 2016 So you start a thread with a 'question' and when you get some replies now your true reason comes out. Well done, totally didn't see that coming. Are you sure you respond to the right person? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #21 Posted March 12, 2016 Are you sure you respond to the right person? I am now. For some reason I got a quote from a person which I didn't intend. But yeah... I have heard some speculations/rumors about the fact that British,French and Italian ships are not in game yet. Some people speculate that the lack of those ships comes directly from the trade embargo EU has over Russian Confederacy. Is this true or not? If its not true how you explain that Soviet cruisers that in their majority were ONLY blueprint designs come before the Royal Navy or The Royal Italian one or the French navy that all of them can give full line of ships of all categories? Instead of such ships we have to settle with comic cloned ships? Followed by the quote made in my previous post totally doesn't show your agenda or explains why you post your drivel in the weekend when it would take longer to get vukked. Well done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_HUSO] typhaon Beta Tester 447 posts 954 battles Report post #22 Posted March 12, 2016 True...But British customers also BUY game's projects aren't they? Aren't Italians considered customers of the game too? If its just a game -some will point out- then why WG did not start from Austrian or Nederlands ship lines? Of course, but if you have for example 100.000 Russian players that are eager to play Soviet ships and 30.000 British players that await British ships... what would you do first? I can understand the frustration from a historical view, but I also understand the economic decisions of WG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Gojuadorai Players 2,832 posts 21,712 battles Report post #23 Posted March 12, 2016 I have heard some speculations/rumors about the fact that British,French and Italian ships are not in game yet. i think its no speculation that they are not in game yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,960 battles Report post #24 Posted March 13, 2016 (edited) So you really think pleasing the majority of players is a bad thing? Depends on which server I play on. Did WG's strategy to include the US first happen to be a very popular move for them in the USA? Nope. If you;ve known WG long enough like some of us do you may have noticed they have a long history of neglect toward the EU, which suffice it so say (esp in WoT's case) is a cash cow for them. WG are slow, very slow on the uptake. They simply should have catered for more a lot sooner, and now they're what, finishing the tech tree of nations whose navies were laughable first? Edited March 13, 2016 by Shaka_D 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,960 battles Report post #25 Posted March 13, 2016 (edited) Of course, but if you have for example 100.000 Russian players that are eager to play Soviet ships and 30.000 British players that await British ships... what would you do first? I can understand the frustration from a historical view, but I also understand the economic decisions of WG. 100 000 russians pay a lot less for everything than we do because apparently, for some really odd reason, their economy is in a shambles? We all understand the economic decisions, but it's no less frustrating to be treated as the lesser server group who happen to pay more for the same crap the RU gets. Edited March 13, 2016 by Shaka_D 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites