Pensacola balanced at tier 5 (read the last paragraph)

[fallenmemories]

The Pensacola is perfectly balanced at tier five, let me explain why.

its huge and Unmaneuverable, it has a stupidly high detection range. Making it food for tier five battleships.

it is a ship that only a good captain can make work. And therefore is perfectly balanced at tier five. It has a lot of health to be able to survive the citadel hits that it takes, so it's perfectly balanced at tier five.

if you think I am a f***ing idiot, then you now know why the Kirov is so overpowered at tier five. It has guns that are equivalent to the Pensacola (in the Kirov they turn faster) which makes it op at tier five.

[44smok]

Pepsi is a lot better cruiser than Cleveland. What tier would you put Cleveland then?

[fallenmemories]

Pepsi is a lot better cruiser than Cleveland. What tier would you put Cleveland then?

Did you read until the end?

[44smok]

Konigsberg is still better than Kirov so?

[fallenmemories]

Konigsberg is still better than Kirov so?

No it isn't, it lacks armor and it only has AP shells to use, Kirov has great AP and HE, long range, fast Rotating turrets with great firing angles, it also has 180mm guns, far superior to the Koenig.

[Xevious_Red]

Personally I think it'll be very powerful at tier 5.

 

However I think the overall stats will be rather low, and there will be lots of complaints about how bad it is.

Why?

For the same reason as the furutaka, despite it having very powerful guns, lots of HP and decent torps, because it doesn't play like a light cruiser and because you have to angle/plan ahead then people declare it as useless. Worse, because they then try to play it like a light cruiser they get useless results in it, thus "confirming" how bad it is.

 

I think the kirov will get the same - there'll be some initial "omg this is OP" when the good players are using it, followed by "Wtf is this crap it has no armour and is insta spotted" when everyone else gets to it

[ColonelPete]

Lets wait until the Kirov is open to the public.

The only thing that bothers me is that they increased the RoF before testing, but we do not know how it will perform.

 

Btw. a Pensa would murder everything at Tier V.

[fallenmemories]

Personally I think it'll be very powerful at tier 5.

 

However I think the overall stats will be rather low, and there will be lots of complaints about how bad it is.

Why?

For the same reason as the furutaka, despite it having very powerful guns, lots of HP and decent torps, because it doesn't play like a light cruiser and because you have to angle/plan ahead then people declare it as useless. Worse, because they then try to play it like a light cruiser they get useless results in it, thus "confirming" how bad it is

The reason people complain about the furutaka is as you said. However there is more to it. The furutaka suffers from bad firing angles (6 single turrets) and a slow turret turning speed, making it uncomfortable to people used to faster light cruisers. However in the hands of a compotant player, the furutaka simply can't compete with the Kirov, it's the reason why I think it op at tier five, it makes the furutaka irrelevant, as it doesn't suffer the weakness the furutaka suffers from.

[IamTroublemaker]

Is Kirov available for research already? How could you possibily know its gonna be OP? Furutakas 210mm guns seem OP at tier 5, but look at it in game, a lot of people are complaining its UP (even though it isnt). Anyway, my point is that you shouldnt judge a ship before its live.

 

 

Also, Pensacola isnt that bad. The problem is that you cant play it like Cleveland...

[OVanBruce]

- 10 203mm guns

- 15.7kms range

 

Where do I sign the petition to get such awesome sealclubber?

[Ecotech]

 

Also, Pensacola isnt that bad. The problem is that you cant play it like Cleveland...

 

Which is not a problem. No pew-pew like the Cleveland, but 203 sweetness. I personally prefer the Pensacola over the Cleveland, those big guns can hurt a lot of things.

 

At tier 5? You sh*tting me? What would you do with the Omaha then? And the Cleveland?

[imply_tha_best]

 

Which is not a problem. No pew-pew like the Cleveland, but 203 sweetness. I personally prefer the Pensacola over the Cleveland, those big guns can hurt a lot of things.

 

At tier 5? You sh*tting me? What would you do with the Omaha then? And the Cleveland?

 

just put Cleveland at T4 and Omaha at T3... I could live with that... 

[Tyrendian89]

The Pensacola is perfectly balanced at tier five, let me explain why.

its huge and Unmaneuverable, it has a stupidly high detection range. Making it food for tier five battleships.

it is a ship that only a good captain can make work. And therefore is perfectly balanced at tier five. It has a lot of health to be able to survive the citadel hits that it takes, so it's perfectly balanced at tier five.

if you think I am a f***ing idiot, then you now know why the Kirov is so overpowered at tier five. It has guns that are equivalent to the Pensacola (in the Kirov they turn faster) which makes it op at tier five.

 

simply no. Furutaka does 21rpm, with low range and crap turret angles. Pensa does 40rpm, with decent turret angles and pretty good range.

[txtspeak]

Is Kirov available for research already? How could you possibily know its gonna be OP? Furutakas 210mm guns seem OP at tier 5, but look at it in game, a lot of people are complaining its UP (even though it isnt). Anyway, my point is that you shouldnt judge a ship before its live.

 

 

Also, Pensacola isnt that bad. The problem is that you cant play it like Cleveland...

 

Cleveland is my favourite ship, so I am confused as to why I am asking this but, how DO you play cleveland. for me it looks like crap on paper that came to life to obliterate everything. so basically the opposite of paper mario sticker star. I can kinda get how you play it when its top tier, but when its top tier is put in MAPS (the map being the important bit) that are very wide open, leaving the cleveland sailor two choices, hide behind the BBs and hope that some aircraft come your way and net next to no XP or leeroy jenkins until you get into range and get killed because you rushed in ahead of everyone.

the thing is a beast at top tier, I would even call it best in the game when it is in lower tier MAPS. but I dont know how to combat the lack of cover on the wide open maps like hotspot, trap and the biggest offender ever, land of fire

[mtm78]

The Pensacola is perfectly balanced at tier five, let me explain why.

its huge and Unmaneuverable, it has a stupidly high detection range. Making it food for tier five battleships.

it is a ship that only a good captain can make work. And therefore is perfectly balanced at tier five. It has a lot of health to be able to survive the citadel hits that it takes, so it's perfectly balanced at tier five.

if you think I am a f***ing idiot, then you now know why the Kirov is so overpowered at tier five. It has guns that are equivalent to the Pensacola (in the Kirov they turn faster) which makes it op at tier five.

 

Hell no, why would anyone think that for commenting on something you haven't even tried but just judge from hear-say and in port stats?

[Admiral_noodle]

I don't think Kirov will be OP. High in the water, big, sluggish... Unlike the Furataka it's a BBs dream

 

[Ph3lan]

The Pensacola is perfectly balanced at tier five, let me explain why.

its huge and Unmaneuverable, it has a stupidly high detection range. Making it food for tier five battleships.

it is a ship that only a good captain can make work. And therefore is perfectly balanced at tier five. It has a lot of health to be able to survive the citadel hits that it takes, so it's perfectly balanced at tier five.

if you think I am a f***ing idiot, then you now know why the Kirov is so overpowered at tier five. It has guns that are equivalent to the Pensacola (in the Kirov they turn faster) which makes it op at tier five.

 

The Pepsi eats Tier V cruisers for breakfast It would be extremely OP at Tier V as it would completely devastate everything at that tier.  The Pensacola is a great Tier VII ships, admittedly a high risk, high reward one, but if you know how to play it to its strengths, it is more than viable. 

[fallenmemories]

You know, I started this thread by sarcastically comparing the Pensacola to the Kirov in order to point out why I think the Kirov is op at tier five. But it seems that everyone actually thinks I want the Pensacola to be moved to tier five. Dammit guys, I thought I made it obvious. 

[Ph3lan]

You know, I started this thread by sarcastically comparing the Pensacola to the Kirov in order to point out why I think the Kirov is op at tier five. But it seems that everyone actually thinks I want the Pensacola to be moved to tier five. Dammit guys, I thought I made it obvious. 

 

It seems our sarcasm detectors need a hotfix I think we should wait until the Kirov is actually out and people are playing it before claiming that it is OP. Stats can be deceiving sometimes and while it might look too powerful on paper, it might have some drawbacks that you only realize while playing it. Once it is out we can gather the feedback from you guys and look at the statistics to see how the ship is doing. If it turns out that it is actually too strong, it will be changed in one of the future patches. 

[ghostbuster_]

The Pensacola is perfectly balanced at tier five, let me explain why.

its huge and Unmaneuverable, it has a stupidly high detection range. Making it food for tier five battleships.

it is a ship that only a good captain can make work. And therefore is perfectly balanced at tier five. It has a lot of health to be able to survive the citadel hits that it takes, so it's perfectly balanced at tier five.

if you think I am a f***ing idiot, then you now know why the Kirov is so overpowered at tier five. It has guns that are equivalent to the Pensacola (in the Kirov they turn faster) which makes it op at tier five.

 

pensa has 203mm guns and you can even hit citadels of a tier 8 BB with those perfect guns. so the comperation you made is nonsense. it would be really op at tier 5.  It is also maneuverable enough to angle yourself against a bb. it fits to tier 7 perfect.

maybe you are doing something very wrong with that ship. i cant say anything about kirov atm because i didnt see it in battle against me. furutaka has 203mm guns at tier 5. i dont believe 180mm guns will be way better than 203mm.

[Meneleus]

We will see how well the Russian cruisers will perform when they are available for the general public. As far as I have seen things do not seem to be as bad as you portray them to be.

 

Cheers, M

 

Edit: You might want to edit your OP to clarify sarcasm was used. Many people seem to be oblivious to the fact...

[IamTroublemaker]

You know, I started this thread by sarcastically comparing the Pensacola to the Kirov in order to point out why I think the Kirov is op at tier five. But it seems that everyone actually thinks I want the Pensacola to be moved to tier five. Dammit guys, I thought I made it obvious. 

 

It's just really bad sarcasm then.

[ghostbuster_]

 

It seems our sarcasm detectors need a hotfix I think we should wait until the Kirov is actually out and people are playing it before claiming that it is OP. Stats can be deceiving sometimes and while it might look too powerful on paper, it might have some drawbacks that you only realize while playing it. Once it is out we can gather the feedback from you guys and look at the statistics to see how the ship is doing. If it turns out that it is actually too strong, it will be changed in one of the future patches. 

 

do you even take our feedbacks serious? than i suggest you take a look to feedbacks about MM. it must be the most important topic but wg is still working on awfull sound effects.

[cherry2blost]

 

It seems our sarcasm detectors need a hotfix I think we should wait until the Kirov is actually out and people are playing it before claiming that it is OP. Stats can be deceiving sometimes and while it might look too powerful on paper, it might have some drawbacks that you only realize while playing it. Once it is out we can gather the feedback from you guys and look at the statistics to see how the ship is doing. If it turns out that it is actually too strong, it will be changed in one of the future patches. 

 

I have decided that of all the WG staff who have graced the forums, Ph3lan is probably the only one who really 'gets' the community here..... (wish we still had +1's)

[Foehamster419]

Is it actually a good ship? I ahve unlocked it but I never got it because I just don't like cruisers. It seems to be a great provider of citadel hits when I drive a BB