Russian Cruiser Trailer

[MrFingers]

That patriotism though... The trailer for the German CA-line was much more serene and underwhelming in presentation compared to this. One might even phantom for a second they were capable and significant ships IRL.

 

 

EDIT 16.33hrs

This is the trailer for the RU-server:

[C4PT41N_0BV10US]

They were Naval Legends though! You know, cause they didn't sink while sailing through the storm? Amazing feat worthy of patriotic songs, statues and post stamps. 

 

I actually feel kinda filthy I bought Kutuzov for team battles.

[allufewig]

 

That patriotism though... The trailer for the German CA-line was much more serene and underwhelming in presentation compared to this. One might even phantom for a second they were capable and significant ships IRL.

 

 

What makes you think they were not capable ships? (Those that existed in more than blueprints that is).

[Beardroid91]

Hmm... i wonder if all the fire in the video is a hint at how OP their fire chance will be 

 

[Gunship14]

Just ridiculous. The trailer consists more of officers/whatever and flags than of actual ships.

[IamTroublemaker]

I liked the German cruisers/Russian destroyers one more because it revealed much more. This one looks much better in a cinematic way tho.

[Ashtaron]

 

It's going to be that kind of thread again, isn't it? Seen one, seen 'em all.

I should throw together a checklist. Something like this:

[x] Who cares?

[x] Where's muh RN?

[ ] Paper ships! _{something that never, ever happens with the other lines, dayum lyin ruskies}

[x ] Russian bias! _{as instantly determined by resident naval oracles and certified prophets months before the stats are released, let alone the ships themselves}

[ ] Where's muh RN?

[ ] Russian propaganda! _{today, a niche video game - tomorrow, the WORLD!}

[ ] Where's muh RN?

[ ] Where's muh RN?

[ ] Seriously m8, where's muh RN?

 

[PedeNuts]

So, no word on the Royal Navy?

[C4PT41N_0BV10US]

Cause maybe, just maybe, most of the players doesn't really look forward to those ships? So we kinda approach their release with "subtle irony". I'd rather have dutch ships, french ships, italian ships, moar german ships, moar US ships, british ships, then soviet cruisers. But, what can I do apart from few snarls and witty sarcastic comments here and there? That's good therapy for me

 

[Comrad_StaIin]

I am very interested in russian cruisers...

 

....BEcause in sovie......

[gr0pah]

It's going to be that kind of thread again, isn't it? Seen one, seen 'em all.

I should throw together a checklist. Something like this:

[x] Who cares?

[x] Where's muh RN?

[ ] Paper ships! _{something that never, ever happens with the other lines, dayum lyin ruskies}

[x ] Russian bias! _{as instantly determined by resident naval oracles and certified prophets months before the stats are released, let alone the ships themselves}

[ ] Where's muh RN?

[ ] Russian propaganda! _{today, a niche video game - tomorrow, the WORLD!}

[ ] Where's muh RN?

[ ] Where's muh RN?

[ ] Seriously m8, where's muh RN?

 

Considering there was basically not a single scene that wasn't featuring the hammer and sickle (evul communist symbols, murdering millions), I think you can add:

[ ] Why can't we have the Imperial German flag?

[MrFingers]

The Russian Trailer (that is: the trailer for the Russian ships, for the Russian server) is a tad different than the one the Western servers were presented with (and more in line with the trailers that the German CA's & Russian DD's had back in 2015)

 

[Ashtaron]

 

Considering there was basically not a single scene that wasn't featuring the hammer and sickle (evul communist symbols, murdering millions), I think you can add:

[ ] Why can't we have the Imperial German flag?

 

I thought of something along those lines, but that issue I feel is idiotic serious enough to not make fun of. All of these arbitrary bans on symbolism are condescending in nature and seem to assume that the moment you see that particular black, red and white flag you'll instantly start goose-stepping and taking inane books written by mediocre Austrian painters at face value. Or, alternatively, seizing the means of production and taking slightly less inane books written by a failed German journalist at face value upon seeing a combination of two farming implements.

[Gerudan]

It's going to be that kind of thread again, isn't it? Seen one, seen 'em all.

I should throw together a checklist. Something like this:

[x] Who cares?

[x] Where's muh RN?

[ ] Paper ships! _{something that never, ever happens with the other lines, dayum lyin ruskies}

[x ] Russian bias! _{as instantly determined by resident naval oracles and certified prophets months before the stats are released, let alone the ships themselves}

[ ] Where's muh RN?

[ ] Russian propaganda! _{today, a niche video game - tomorrow, the WORLD!}

[ ] Where's muh RN?

[ ] Where's muh RN?

[ ] Seriously m8, where's muh RN?

 

Predicting obvious criticism doesn't necessarily make that criticism invalid. It might actually show how obviously and valid that criticism is. ;) 

 

My question would rather be: How many of those ships ever fought in a real naval battle against enemy ships? 

[Sonic_157]

The Russian Trailer (that is: the trailer for the Russian ships, for the Russian server) is a tad different than the one the Western servers were presented with (and more in line with the trailers that the German CA's & Russian DD's had back in 2015)

 

 

 

Hey! That trailer is better!

I protest! Equality for all servers!

 

 

 

 

p.s. I really like that we finally get a new line. I will give them a try for sure.

 

 

[Kartoffelmos]

The only issue I really have is the same as in WoT; WWII designs fighting against Cold War designs and the balancing issues that arises. Though, in comparison to WoT, where the tanks are fairly balanced (excluding certain outliers), stuff like firing range and penetration values may lead to a clash between "historical accuracy" and balance/gameplay.

 

I just hope we do not get a line consisting of Murmansk-s all the way to tier 10. As such, the obvious patriotism is a little worrying.

[Ashtaron]

 

Predicting obvious criticism doesn't necessarily make that criticism invalid. It might actually show how obviously and valid that criticism is. ;) 

 

Argumentum ad populum hardly counts as compelling evidence towards the validity of said criticism in my book.

 

 

How many of those ships ever fought in a real naval battle against enemy ships? 

 

Several. Counter-question: how is this relevant to the decision-making process of including ships into a video game?

[gr0pah]

Counter-question: how is this relevant to the decision-making process of including ships into a video game?

I'll pass on the question, but I find it silly/laughable that they insist on presenting ships that were either not built nor fired a single shot in anger as stronk NAVAL LEGENDS.

[Aotearas]

Hmm... i wonder if all the fire in the video is a hint at how OP their fire chance will be 

 

Can't help but think the symbolism is allegorical here too

 

Considering the odd calibers for most tiers compared to other same tier ships though, it isn't too outlandish to presume the VMF cruisers might have good HE performance.

[N00b32]

Only 2 questions remain

 

[]royal navy ? No? Ok then next question

[]New soviet flags for the cruisers ? 

[Tyrendian89]

I'll pass on the question, but I find it silly/laughable that they insist on presenting ships that were either not built nor fired a single shot in anger as stronk NAVAL LEGENDS.

 

I'm with you on the Naval Legends, although that was just one video out of the series so far and even that can somewhat be justified with being an ad for that ship coming as a premium shortly after. But, what do the Naval Legends have to do with them being added into the game? Almost every line has a few gaps filled with paper...

[MrFingers]

Several.

 

Reliable sources? Preferably from the peer-reviewed kind. I can find numerous papers about their significance as a "floating artillery battery", shelling land targets from the shore.

 

[Gerudan]

 

Argumentum ad populum hardly counts as compelling evidence towards the validity of said criticism in my book.

 

 

Several. Counter-question: how is this relevant to the decision-making process of including ships into a video game?

 

Since this is not a scientific issue, where one side can be proven wrong, public opinion or rather the opinion of the customer is almost (apart from a few balance reasons) all, WG can or should go on when deciding what new line should be implemented. So if a lot of players actually want to see British cruisers, while hardly anyone ever asked for Russian cruisers (outside of the Russian forums at least), but WG implements said Russian cruisers even though there already is a Russian line in the game, they might actually do something wrong here, i.e. not what their customers want them to do. 

 

Like which one?

It is in so far relevant that I would guess most people would want to play iconic and famous ships that were actually part of famous skirmishes or battles in history. So paper ships should be reduced as much as posiible and famous large navies should get their ships in first. WG actually did this at the beginning by starting with the USN and the IJN, the two navies that fought the largest and most numerous naval battles in WW II. 

[Babykim]

Give me moah ships to grind! I don't care what. I am addicted to gameplay!

[kantkantian]

Can I get an Stalin plushie with then?